Premium meds during real tournament (last 16 clans) is stupid?

[Gamek1ng]

* All items released in ijji GunZ is fair game including premium medical/repair kits.


People who can't use/afford them have (big) disadvantage..

Edit- Damn I meant stupid*

[Prosperity]

I agree with u.

[CrimsonVixen]

Yes stupid .

[Senneuh]

Even in normal battles using meds is stupid -.-

[Snorlax]

I had to say stupid. I mean I would agree with the prem med users since they bought it and should be able to use it, however, prem meds are so broken that in a tournament there just not fair.

[iamclever2]

there way overpowered..

[Neto!]

Yes stupid .

its like kill him 2 times...

[ariej]

************ing Hell Wtf Why The Hell Ijji Makes A Rule To Use Prem Meds Waddafack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dvknight]

Yeah premium med kits are a bit unfair for a tournament
-Less Wheight
-More Heal
-More Units
-Looks cooler lol :P

[wingway]

Prem meds are really annoying in cws, which is why everyone always accuses everyone else of hacking.

[Bounty]

yeah, I agree.
it makes the games way less interesting, and bases them more on luck (not every single player will have both prem kits), therefore imo they should not be used in official tournament play.

[Conspiracy]

well , actually i disagree with u. the prem med user USED his own money to buy prem med and he cant use it in CW? is it that u cant buy prem med and u suggesting the GM to ban prem med frm CW?

[popeye987]

we aren't sugesting it shouldn't be used in CWs, its the tourny we are talking about. I say no prem meds because with prem meds its like the fight is two sets of 4v4, unless your side dosn't have prem meds. Then its like being outnumbered.

[Gamek1ng]

well , actually i disagree with u. the prem med user USED his own money to buy prem med and he cant use it in CW? is it that u cant buy prem med and u suggesting the GM to ban prem med frm CW?

It's about the tournament not the normal cws. Ijji is acting greedy again because in this way many people will buy prem meds for getting in top 16 and for the last 16 matches.

Please screw that small amount of money and give us more fun (no meds at all or at least only non-pmeds).

Thanks

[Sirius]

Cry more?

Prem meds is good idea.

[matuta]

I think , ON IJJI only won who got more prems hahahaha they got no skill

[tleilaxu01]

prems = noob

[Amon]

Couldn't agree with this topic more.

Sirius are u stupid?

People who can't have prem heals will be in disvantage.
And ping issues are enough to people dont die.
Prem heals were not made to ijji gunz, they were made to kgunz and jgunz, there they can heal as much as they want but they will still die with 2 shoots in their faces.

I hope GM's think about this, and take prem heals out of the tournment, its really a stupid thing.

Even in normal matchs and cw's, its totally ****************. people who doens't have skills can kill ppl who does cuz of their prem heals. with reload shot ppl dont even need to aim they just spamm and hit randomly, and if they got pbed they just heal from red to LB. wow so fair.

Really. GM's atleast u should take prem heals out of the tournment and think in remove them from ijjigunz or make them weaker.

[SsYou]

stupid as ************, in the kgunz vids of their tournaments they dont use prem emds cus its damn right cheap.

[GunChamp222]

love those prem meds. they saved my life a bunch of times in boss and regular quests

[UnReVeRsE]

meh people with prem meds save themselves heaps, e.g in a sword battle, prem user runs away heals to full, and fights a bit more, prem user wins with red hp.

[kokuzoku]

Don't let them heal.

[Pigster]

its part of the game. deal with it.

[shadownaruto]

meh people with prem meds save themselves heaps, e.g in a sword battle, prem user runs away heals to full, and fights a bit more, prem user wins with red hp.




i never let my oppenent get away not even to heal and if they try to heal i justvstesal the meds to heal my self. hey its a free heal

[Lemon]

IMO in a tournament everyone should be able to pick any item.. even prems to make it fair

ofcourse they cant use it outside the tourny

[meandme]

That's why I have candy canes.

[Amon]

i never let my oppenent get away not even to heal and if they try to heal i justvstesal the meds to heal my self. hey its a free heal

how can you do that? if ur red u cant go after him and stop him from heal. >.<


Ijji, i know this is a way to make a extra money, cuz everybody who will join in the tournment will buy prem heals, but its extremely stupid really, think more in the players and less in you, this is a tip for ur sucess.
Ping issues are already enough to make hard to kill someone, even more with prem heals it will be extremely hard and boring, so let us have more fun and take it out from the tournment.


PS: where are you GM? i wanna hear what u got to say.

[iReloadShot]

both sets of lv 15 prem meds give you like full hp when you have 1 hp left. just try realizing it.

[frogger]

it makes victory so much sweeter when you spray them to death while they are running against teh wall lik n00bz

[SsYou]

prem meds = 1hp-full again
so if a full team used prem meds
vs.
team that cant buy prem meds for whatever reason

its 8vs4 in effect,

IJJI IS ALL ABOUT MONEY THOUGH, WHO CARES BOUT THE CUSTOMERS THEY MAKE CASH $

[kevin_360]

Prem Meds are basically the ultimate meds in Gunz.
- They heal twice as much as a regular medical kit.
- From a good estimate they heal 40hp.
- To also mention that there super lightweight.
- Its a good thing there not unlimited.

[Love¡¡]

I have prem meds myself, but for tournaments, I think it sucks. Tournaments are here to prove who's the best, not who can shoot,run,med,shoot and kill the other person before he meds.

[Prosperity]

I could easely buy them but it's just weak to need 2 lifes to win.

[Muroku456]

there should be no meds in tournament cws since it shows how good people are. Without healing themselves to full with 2 meds :o

[swordmaster]

Wow, all of you newbs cry to much... I don't have prem meds and it doesnt even bother me ; First off with your 40 hp and 40 ap from meds that gives them 60 hp and ap extra than you... not very much

Plus they have to get through the process of

1. Killing you
2. Evading/Hiding to heal
3. Not get hurt during healing

If you can't win under those conditions you probably suck..
And everyone on this thread Probably isnt even in a top 16 clan?

[Prosperity]

prem meds can make anyone win, look at b2b for example :sarcasm:

I smell a winnar.

[Barrage]

Yea prem meds suck!

[hochimo]

prem meds are were cheap from the start, if you wasted ur money to get them and be cheap thats ur fault, it is seriously unfair when you are comparing it to ppl who dont have them.

[Elll0]

people with prem meds rock..you just flip them when they drop and free meds :D

[Shina]

I think it would be better to forbidden prems meds, but I'v got them and I think everyone will be ready for the tournament and everyone will have them ^^, pros always find a solution : O

[tleilaxu01]

Wow, all of you newbs cry to much... I don't have prem meds and it doesnt even bother me ; First off with your 40 hp and 40 ap from meds that gives them 60 hp and ap extra than you... not very much

Plus they have to get through the process of

1. Killing you
2. Evading/Hiding to heal
3. Not get hurt during healing

If you can't win under those conditions you probably suck..
And everyone on this thread Probably isnt even in a top 16 clan?

1) 40 + 40 = 60??!! LOL
2) As far as i know, each prem med heals roughly 18 hp; a lot more than a normal one(10 hp). And since you've got 5 of each type, you have 18*5= 90 HP and 90 AP ==> 180 HP+AP. Which is another life. That is unfair, and winning with that is not really winning. It's really noobish IMO.
3)If your teammates aren't complete noobs, they can give you enough time to heal.

[Chaterbox]

Personally i have to agree that the meds are evil during CW. But if they buy gcoins and spend it on meds let then. We can't control them.

And whoever said
prems = noobs

noobs is a harsh word. 2 prems are alot cooler than regular clothes. and if u can afford a computer with working internet u can (by my standerds) afford g coins and buy prems. I like prems they give off good stats.

i only hate in duels when people use then candycanes. they get anoying.

[-Rezz-]

I think Ijji should award qualifiers with premium meds to help with the fairness issue.

[I_EaT_NeWbiEs]

ZzZZzZzZ prem meds should be banned from tourny if he bought it...with his own money liek come on...prem meds >.> this is pointing skillls not the person who can hit and run and still be full all the time...being the tourny winners should be based on the skills and strength not on luck and richer like jeez -.- go use ur prem meds in a tdm or normal cw

[baka_2277]

I agree with nether

[Ian H.]

1) 40 + 40 = 60??!! LOL
You missed the part where he said "60 more" than normal meds.

[Sombra]

they're ok in normal cw's, but in a tournament sux, if b2b caln gets in top 16 till the end they will win cus they pro healers they run when they need to heal-.-

[Gamek1ng]

They suck in normal cw to but I don't care as much as in tournament.. But who cares I ain't playing for Standard or KiLerPiRaTeS or osmething anyway. It's just so unfair with this lag in this version

[TheViceLord]

zzz prem meds suck! in tournaments dont use em,
normal im cool.

...cept alot of hackers in CW now...

[Prosperity]

Normal meds: 4 pack, weight 14 together, heal 10 each.
Premium meds: 5 pack, weight 10 together, heal 20 each.

[TheViceLord]

woah prem meds got good stats...good thing or bad lol?

[cesnjak]

Imagine all ppl had prem meds. 200 hp heal so basicly every time you would have to kill someone twice to actually kill him if he manages to run away and heal

[Chinese]

If a player pays for the benefits of a game, then they deserve the benefits, they don't have to deal with crying from players who can't afford those extra benefits. If you think about it, premium meds bring a certain balance to the ping problem in Gunz, incase a lagger happens to pointblank you on instant with a complete stroke of luck, you'll be able to recover, whereas as opposed to non premium meds, you will barely be able to heal 1/2 of that portion lost. Yes, the random pointblanks do happen at times when you don't need them as well.

[TheViceLord]

chinese a good point,cesnjak u too.

[Godofwar]

errm well this ppl from ijji are trying to make money so by allowing prem meds they are just basically encouraging people to buy them and therefore allows ijji and the ppl running it to make more money.

[Godofwar]

well obviously sirius does hav and use prem meds so it would b an advantage for him and therefore he would encourage their use lol

[Godofwar]

ya well what if you are the one lagging to others and they dont hav prem meds? what if u just suddenly happen to pb them? so using lagg as an argument isnt rlly effective becuz technically it works both ways. i hate lagg and i think its unfair but prem meds dont rlly have anything to do with it

[RenjiAbarai]

true but i dont need prem meds to win
its called a thing name skills
people got skills to win without meds or prem bc they got skills like me im non prem user and i never used a med in real fight

[TheViceLord]

ya i agree mate

[Shina]

Don't worry, everyone will have prems meds...

[Chinese]

true but i dont need prem meds to win
its called a thing name skills
people got skills to win without meds or prem bc they got skills like me im non prem user and i never used a med in real fight

Good for you, now please prove it. Everyone is a skilled player, it's the teamwork that counts. You feel special because you've never touched a premium item in your ijji career? Nice. Want a cookie?

[TheViceLord]

Good for you, now please prove it. Everyone is a skilled player, it's the teamwork that counts. You feel special because you've never touched a premium item in your ijji career? Nice. Want a cookie?

Chinese ur so mean lol:lolz:
:=p: but u do hav a good point
clan wars is all about the teamwork,
u need to protect your teamate,
and u need to know that ur teammate will
do the same for you.

[_________]

well, prem meds are annoying, but!, if you have them unlike me it will be great, but just dont heal in duels, thats annoying, but in cw's is uhh, okk.

[_________]

what does renji mean by "real fight" every game is a "real fight" unless training rofl...

[TheViceLord]

any fight that is between two pros that actually KNOW how to fight

[Acu]

Good for you, now please prove it. Everyone is a skilled player, it's the teamwork that counts. You feel special because you've never touched a premium item in your ijji career? Nice. Want a cookie?

Should you really be telling ijji "newbs" that gunz is a game of skill and teamwork?

If you tell them that, they might actually believe it


gunz is a game based on unfair advantages, cheap tactics, luck and lag, the actuall skill might only account for about 20% of the game

gunz is a sad excuse compared to any other fps, enjoy its unique gameplay, because you wont see sh1t like it anywhere else guys, but dont go on pretending gunz is a game on par with other 'real' games

[TOKTOk]

aculard always right!

[Heav3n]

the players fault/problem if they cant afford prems,go get a job if this means that much 2 you.

[$3xy]

prem meds mean nothing just like levels. In cws its the teamwork that counts. Saying "healers" or anything along the sides of that is just an escuse cuz u got pwnt. i myself have never touched a prem med but im still able to win a load of cws against prem medders so it doesent matter

[TheViceLord]

usually prem medders drop thier meds at thier spawn point, so in CW
what i do it rush over there and get them before they can still use em.

[Reaver]

Well, personally I think using meds is fine, I don't do it myself, but nor do I care if other people do it, I certainly do HAVE meds in my inventory (the simple lvl 0 newbie meds), but every time I pull them out I get called a newbie healer (or worse). It causes more trouble than its worth to me (though even when I don't have them I still sometimes get called a healer, cuz I tend to camp behind corners), so I don't use them anymore.

[S_N_0_W]

Just make the tournaments standardized. Either you HAVE to have prem meds or you absolutley CANNOT. Having a mixture of players who do and do not have prem meds is wrong because it doesn't accurately measure who is better.

[TheViceLord]

Just make the tournaments standardized. Either you HAVE to have prem meds or you absolutley CANNOT. Having a mixture of players who do and do not have prem meds is wrong because it doesn't accurately measure who is better.

can u do that? i didnt know.

[ICEHOUND]

i think meds good 4 1 thing boss quest other then that there usless

[Heav3n]

go get a job 2 pay for prems if this such a big deal twoards u =O

[Tang Weinig]

i dont think its stupid...just kill the person before he can heal...prem meds or not...and if prem meds can be use by everyone, saying that using prem meds is stupid is just like complaining about rockets or "sprayers" in-game. both can be bought in the shop, everyone can use it just like prem meds...and if you dont have money/or credit card w/e theres peanut labs surveys and its really working good i got like 31 coins in 3 weeks...so.....

[TheViceLord]

wow i was alot luckyer than u, no bragging its all random (i got 58 g coins in 1 survey, the next day another survey was up, and i got 13 from it, wuts that 71 g coins in less than 2 days HOLY FS!)

[maikwl151]

well i have p-meds but i understand that they wont allow p-meds in the tournament cause they'll have 2 lives .

[Sephrenia]

meh everyone that says they shouldnt be allowed are just ************************es who either dont buy prem meds or cant use them well thats ur own fault so dont cry about it, after all maiet made the prem meds they are a part of the game, people who use prem meds bought them telling them you cant use them is stupid just becuse it is unfair well people vary in ap or hp stil its not a big difference i kno but u cant cry aobut prem meds its just stupid and pointless

[hotdogggg]

prem meds are awesome but unfair

[TheViceLord]

again(OMG im agreeing too much!) i agree with u.

[xHellPro]

Prem meds are a part of the game.
It's like to say you're not allowed to use breaker 8 because your opponent is level 25 and it's unfair.

[shinoroku]

yea they are pretty cheap but we have to deal with them its in the game

[Hot§hot]

me and my friend dont care ^_^ u got prem meds for me it telling me u heal once ima kill u ^_^

[FlameFire]

It is not stupid, but it's annoying. With all this lag in Gunz, people complain about them being "noobs" and so ijji resolves this problem by putting in prem meds. Even if you realy hate it, you gotta take it in, since it's part of the game.

[Hayasa]

Prem meds...i dun hav thos..tooo poor...but i agree

[Half Baked]

How are they overpowered when every other player is using them?
Use your common sense please - GMs want you to buy meds, and everyone who wants to play in tourney will have to have prem meds for them to stand a chance. It's just marketing...

[The_Big_Gunner]

Alright, this is a long post just about prem meds. (Kinda sad Oo) anyways, if ijji brought prem meds because of lag, thats kind of stupid. think about it. The laggers are the ones who use the so called "cheap weapons"(sprays such as nico, smg, and machine gun, or rockets) and also, they may be the ones buying the prems. if they did, they'd be unstoppable. you would be at red, and u would of hit them with probably a hit of 8 hp. I understand that ijji wants money, and thats understandable. who DOESNT want money? (I hope I dont get a comment saying someone doesnt =.=)

Just stop this thread. I personally LOATH prem meds, but what can u do? even in the tourney, ijji doesnt care. apparently who ever has the most money, wins.