View Full Version : 8 Questions to ask Before Switching to GunZ Revolution
Meritis
01-28-2008, 08:10 PM
When was the last time your posts weren't flamed to hell?
When was the last time people responded to your criticism in a respectful manner?
When was the last time GzF held any tournament?
When was the last time GzF held any competition?
When was the last time that the staff treated you with equal respect?
When was the last time Citizen actually spoke with you people as fellow members?
When was the last time when your suggestions could change the entire site?
When was the last time a few threads went unflamed on GzF?
Let me tell you something right now; GzR is not a hack site, nor is it a private server site. It's a GunZ Fansite, and I can tell you right now why it's imperative you join and support the Revolution.
GunZ Factor needs to die; let's face it. The staff are corrupted, the administrators don't care, and there are 12 year olds that think they're cool. I am tired of the fact that I've had to deal with all their crap for years simply because they were the only GunZ Fansite in existance.
Today I can safely say they are not a GunZ Fansite, because quite frankly, what does a Fansite require? Articles, competitions, intelligent community, and a supporting userbase. Fansites are used to further promote the product they are a fan of. Do you honestly want a new potential GunZ player to hop onto GzF and read a thread? What will they find? "EZ PZ, 20-0 MOAR NOOB!"
Honestly, step away from that. The reason I made GzR in the first place was not in order to take away their userbase. God knows I can't do that, there are too many idiots there that I frankly don't want. It was to give a better representation of GunZ, to help the game I've loved for so long grow. If GunZ Factor continues to "represent" GunZ, I guarantee you the game will die. Every week the number of GunZ players are going down several tens. No, it's not because the game is getting boring. Well partially, it is. Who's to blame? Ijji of course!
Therefore it is the duty of the GunZ Fansite in order to keep the userbase alive. Has GunZ Factor done that? In 3 years, the only thing major GunZ Factor has done is I'll safely say.what is there to say? Added a videos section to the forums? A downloads section? Provided decent support?
Hello!? GunZ Revolution's been doing all that in a matter of 2 months; we've replicated the success of GunZ Factor which took 3 years to 2 months.
Your opinions, your posts, but most of all, your registration, can be the difference in letting the spam filled hate forum GunZ Factor represent GunZ or let GunZ Revolution be the forum people turn to for a mature community.
This isn't a plea for members; frankly I could care less if you think this site sucks, if the members are scrubs, or if you wanna come hump me. But think about this; a year or two down the line, you'll get bored of this game. Do you really want the only good things of GunZ to be those flame wars and ego posts on GunZ and GunZ Factor?
The decision is up to you, but this is just a clarification for the ************************s that think this is a private server.
Get your head out of your ************; it isn't. I don't know how much simpler it can get then reading the words on the GunZ Revolution main page: does anyone see any references to private servers whatsoever?
`Mr. Michael
01-28-2008, 08:13 PM
Well gunzR definately looks cleaner IMO. Looks a little more proffesional too but that might only be beacuse GzF is a little outdated.
Hm iunno I'll maybe just look on both of 'em
TurtlePowar
01-28-2008, 08:16 PM
most of us don't actually post on gunz factor...
Voltron
01-28-2008, 08:18 PM
What's wrong with using the Ijji forums? o.O
`Mr. Michael
01-28-2008, 08:18 PM
most of us don't actually post on gunz factor...
Ya I'm regiestered on there but I've only posted about once in the past like 2 months? lol. I really only just browse around and most people are just flaming and making dumb threads.
ShinyTHPS2
01-29-2008, 08:35 AM
What's wrong with using the Ijji forums? o.O
Random nonames posting useless threads !
vidoll
01-29-2008, 08:54 AM
1 question to ask yourself.
1. When will I stop shamelessly advertising my site everytime I get a chance?
gzf may not be made of puppies, love, unicorns and all that but its already a well established forum with many posters and active posts. games will always have that many fansites, but only one will actually be the main one people look into. so i guess you can cry yourself to sleep, that you werent the first one to build a gunz oriented fansite, maybe then it would have been what gzf is and you wont have to do all these desperate shameless plugs.
Voltron
01-29-2008, 09:34 AM
Random nonames posting useless threads !
I'd rather take the Random no names then the ego ********************s from Gunz Factor who live on gunz and flame anyone any chance they get.
ShinyTHPS2
01-29-2008, 09:58 AM
I'd rather take the Random no names then the ego ********************s from Gunz Factor who live on gunz and flame anyone any chance they get.
Same, but the problem is that Ijji doesn't concentrate on GunZ only. GzR does, it's only for gunz The Duel.
Meritis
01-29-2008, 12:59 PM
1 question to ask yourself.
1. When will I stop shamelessly advertising my site everytime I get a chance?
gzf may not be made of puppies, love, unicorns and all that but its already a well established forum with many posters and active posts. games will always have that many fansites, but only one will actually be the main one people look into. so i guess you can cry yourself to sleep, that you werent the first one to build a gunz oriented fansite, maybe then it would have been what gzf is and you wont have to do all these desperate shameless plugs.
I love GzF ************************s, all a load of ****************. Talk to me when your IQ passes that of a 5 year old. Your post has so many flaws in itslelf. Like, for example, capitalizing? Commas?
Cry myself to sleep, lmao you make me laugh with all your baseless assumptions. Just shows GzF is getting more and more desperate by the day.
3rdiEyeiVis
01-29-2008, 01:59 PM
You REPLICATED GzF. I'm glad you understand that.
Oh and, you sort of are a hacksite. Last time I was there (first couple weeks of being opened) you had a link to Dex or Waryas Launcher on the side, which can be used within its uses to access servers during downtime. I realize GzF does this too.
Also, who cares if the staff are 'corrupt', its the internet with a game who's users are mostly under 15.
ZXKatana
01-29-2008, 02:01 PM
the last time i posted and it wasn't flamed was... maybe every single time except for a few occasions
1 question to ask yourself.
1. When will I stop shamelessly advertising my site everytime I get a chance?
Lmao pwnt. You are so getting +rep lol.
Happy new bar :lolz:
Ian H.
01-29-2008, 03:02 PM
Was this copy pasta'd from Gzf?
HiiTSQuaD_ [Q]ยน
01-29-2008, 03:07 PM
Was this copy pasta'd from Gzf?
Nope, The Guy Took It From Here And Posted There To
Make Diamonds Look Like An Idiot.
Meritis
01-29-2008, 03:31 PM
You REPLICATED GzF. I'm glad you understand that.
Oh and, you sort of are a hacksite. Last time I was there (first couple weeks of being opened) you had a link to Dex or Waryas Launcher on the side, which can be used within its uses to access servers during downtime. I realize GzF does this too.
Also, who cares if the staff are 'corrupt', its the internet with a game who's users are mostly under 15.
Not really. We're the ONLY GunZ Fansite in existance. GunZ ************tor isn't a fansite, it's an ego site. A launcher is NOT a hack. It doesn't matter if it can access servers during downtime - it's not a hack. It doesn't modify the game in any way.
Why do I care why the staff are corrupt? Because unlike some people I actually have the balls to do something about problems.
@Hiitsquad, he actually tried so hard it made me laugh. Here's my follow up - he's fuming red right now.
http://www.gunzrevolution.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=314&action=lastpost
Shia840
01-29-2008, 03:33 PM
1 question to ask yourself.
1. When will I stop shamelessly advertising my site everytime I get a chance?
gzf may not be made of puppies, love, unicorns and all that but its already a well established forum with many posters and active posts. games will always have that many fansites, but only one will actually be the main one people look into. so i guess you can cry yourself to sleep, that you werent the first one to build a gunz oriented fansite, maybe then it would have been what gzf is and you wont have to do all these desperate shameless plugs.
So ****************ing owned.
Have my babies. D:
vidoll
01-29-2008, 03:37 PM
I love GzF ************************s, all a load of ****************. Talk to me when your IQ passes that of a 5 year old. Your post has so many flaws in itslelf. Like, for example, capitalizing? Commas?
Cry myself to sleep, lmao you make me laugh with all your baseless assumptions. Just shows GzF is getting more and more desperate by the day.
is calling me a 5 year old to counter the fact that you're shamelessly plugging yourself everywhere the best you can come up with? because i dont see the relevance. Way mature 'insult'~ way to represent GzR, there goes all your advertising with supposedly how awesome GzR is. Go ahead and be a grammar nazi on the internet, because it just makes you so much more hardcore, right? you'll need it. oh the irony, looks like you forgot to spell check your post yourself! uh oh, go ahead and cry yourself to sleep about that also.
i get my point across well enough considering mostly everything is spelled correctly, i could careless about sparring the extra effort over the net to capatalized and double check for fragments or syntax. i'm sorry if it's too difficult for the likes of you to comprehend.
i dont frequent gzf just fyi, but i'd turn to visit gzf anyday over some random forum thats trying too hard to be the new gzf. lol, look whos talking about getting desperate.
Meritis
01-29-2008, 03:48 PM
is calling me a 5 year old to counter the fact that you're shamelessly plugging yourself everywhere the best you can come up with? because i dont see the relevance. Go ahead and be a grammar nazi on the internet, because it just makes you so much more hardcore, right? you'll need it. oh the irony, looks like you forgot to spell check your post yourself! uh oh, go ahead and cry yourself to sleep about that also.
Crying myself to sleep is your only comeback, impressive? Shamelessly plugging myself what? LOL, apparently copying+pasting a post is plugging myself? And you insult me for my logic....
i get my point across well enough considering mostly everything is spelled correctly, i could careless about sparring the extra effort over the net to capatalized and double check for fragments or syntax. i'm sorry if it's too difficult for the likes of you to comprehend.
You're comparing intelligence to someone that visits GzR? You don't have any points, you're trying to start a flame while I'm trying to ignore you without hurting your feelings. Don't cry now =[
i dont frequent gzf just fyi, but i'd turn to visit gzf anyday over some random forum thats trying too hard to be the new gzf. lol, look whos talking about getting desperate.
Try to be the new GzF? Get your facts straight kid. We're not an ego site, we're a fansite.
Thahanos
01-29-2008, 03:52 PM
God forbid...you people are still arguing? Currently, your tone on the forums isn't really going to attract a whole lot of new members, right now, you just sound way too "mean". You're making this whole fansite, GZF issue bigger than it needs to be. Make one thread about your fansite and keep bumping that.
Shia840
01-29-2008, 03:54 PM
while I'm trying to ignore you
Keyword: trying.
In Actuality: failing.
You're making this whole fansite, GZF issue bigger than it needs to be. Make one thread about your fansite and keep bumping that.
Yeah this is... like the sixth thread I've seen for this one site.
Epic Phail...... You lose.
vidoll
01-29-2008, 03:58 PM
Crying myself to sleep is your only comeback, impressive? Shamelessly plugging myself what? LOL, apparently copying+pasting a post is plugging myself? And you insult me for my logic....
You're comparing intelligence to someone that visits GzR? You don't have any points, you're trying to start a flame while I'm trying to ignore you without hurting your feelings. Don't cry now =[
Try to be the new GzF? Get your facts straight kid. We're not an ego site, we're a fansite.
Yes, it would be considered a shameless plug if you're advertising your site all over, bringing it up whenever you can. AKA Spam.
lol flame war :] not interested, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. omgosh I'm so afraid of you, them e-thugs are scary. I piss my pants just thinking of how you'll hurt my feelings.
P.S. I don't the internet seriously enough. I'm not the one throwing personal insults in the first place. hey talk to me when your IQ surpasses that of a 5 year old k? ;] omgogs now we even. you can have the 'win', cause quite frankly, i dont give a damn.
Shia840
01-29-2008, 03:59 PM
Yes, it would be considered a shameless plug if you're advertising your site all over, bringing it up whenever you can. AKA Spam.
lol flame war :] not interested, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. omgosh I'm so afraid of you, them e-thugs are scary. I piss my pants just thinking of how you'll hurt my feelings.
P.S. I don't the internet seriously enough. I'm not the one throwing personal insults in the first place. hey talk to me when your IQ surpasses that of a 5 year old k? ;] omgogs now we even. you can have the 'win', cause quite frankly, i dont give a damn.
And now for him to quote and you and continue flaming you.
vidoll
01-29-2008, 04:01 PM
And now for him to quote and you and continue flaming you.
He's too elite and mature for me. He said he's trying to ignore me or w/e. Sooo.. LETS TRADE CARDS :]
I HAVE E-INSURANCE. K?
Meritis
01-29-2008, 04:06 PM
God forbid...you people are still arguing? Currently, your tone on the forums isn't really going to attract a whole lot of new members, right now, you just sound way too "mean". You're making this whole fansite, GZF issue bigger than it needs to be. Make one thread about your fansite and keep bumping that.
One thread just can't cover everything we're doing.
Axium VS. Travia?
MyPlaza?
Bounty?
Weekly Tournaments?
Articles?
Those things are BIG, one thread can handle it?
I'm tired of flaming you vidoll - to each his own. Continuing this argument will get neither of us nowhere, and I've got to finish my Lord of the Flies reading assignment.
Thahanos
01-29-2008, 04:22 PM
One thread just can't cover everything we're doing.
Axium VS. Travia?
MyPlaza?
Bounty?
Weekly Tournaments?
Articles?
Those things are BIG, one thread can handle it?
I'm tired of flaming you vidoll - to each his own. Continuing this argument will get neither of us nowhere, and I've got to finish my Lord of the Flies reading assignment.
Lord of the flies? Are you a sophomore (: Btw, the ending sucked T_T Piggy died wdf?!
But actually one thread can cover all of it ->
Save 3 posts to yourself on the very top (put reserved for spaces un-used).
Then just fill them up (:
Meritis
01-29-2008, 04:28 PM
Lord of the flies? Are you a sophomore (: Btw, the ending sucked T_T Piggy died wdf?!
But actually one thread can cover all of it ->
Save 3 posts to yourself on the very top (put reserved for spaces un-used).
Then just fill them up (:
No I'm a Freshman.
Voltron
01-29-2008, 04:30 PM
Same, but the problem is that Ijji doesn't concentrate on GunZ only. GzR does, it's only for gunz The Duel.
Ummm I'm pretty sure they monitor all of there forums very closely. There's no difference between using the ijji forum and any other gunz fansite forum.
Voltron
01-29-2008, 04:34 PM
One thread just can't cover everything we're doing.
Axium VS. Travia?
MyPlaza?
Bounty?
Weekly Tournaments?
Articles?
Those things are BIG, one thread can handle it?
I'm tired of flaming you vidoll - to each his own. Continuing this argument will get neither of us nowhere, and I've got to finish my Lord of the Flies reading assignment.
KK, Me Go advertise my forum on another forum site. Would you let someone come to your forums and advertise for a gunz forum? Lulz.
He's too elite and mature for me. He said he's trying to ignore me or w/e. Sooo.. LETS TRADE CARDS :]
I HAVE E-INSURANCE. K?
PS. VIDOLL I IS YOOR BIGGEST FAN <33333456
Meritis
01-29-2008, 04:41 PM
KK, Me Go advertise my forum on another forum site. Would you let someone come to your forums and advertise for a gunz forum? Lulz.
No, not really, but I'd let them discuss about it and debate it with us. They could link and everything and they could only advertise only if it had a certain advantage we didn't have.
There's no point in advertising crap sites, so we'd be ensuring the advertisement wasn't a big piece of bloated crap.
Voltron
01-29-2008, 04:44 PM
No, not really, but I'd let them discuss about it and debate it with us. They could link and everything and they could only advertise only if it had a certain advantage we didn't have.
There's no point in advertising crap sites, so we'd be ensuring the advertisement wasn't a big piece of bloated crap.
Lulz Yea I'm sure. You'd probably lock there thread. Quit advertising your Gunz fansite on the OFFICIAL GUNZ FORUMS.
Meritis
01-29-2008, 04:50 PM
Lulz Yea I'm sure. You'd probably lock there thread. Quit advertising your Gunz fansite on the OFFICIAL GUNZ FORUMS.
That logic is ************************ed. Of course I'm going to advertise my fansite on the official gunz forums. As the GMs have stated before, I'm allowed to advertise if my site doesn't break the ToS. It doesn't.
Voltron
01-29-2008, 04:55 PM
"Equipment style is the explicit use of tactics and rapid shooting weapons in order to kill opponents while taking minimum damage. E-stylers are often related to beginners who use the fundementals of the game such as tumbling and dashing to get the job done. E-style does not use any glitches."
^ Pr0, Equipment style? Try European Style.
"A level 21+ map, Castle Clan Wars can wage for a full 20 minutes and even longer because of the amount of spawns. The minibridge near Red team spawn becomes a common spot for instafalling. Much of this map's battles are fought aerial because of the extensive amount of space with no ground in this map; particularly in the center."
^ Pr0, Use the same Description for both Castle and Arena Map.
Terranwolf
01-29-2008, 05:01 PM
Seriously, stop trying to trash GZF or its community with these threads.
You don't see me or people from GZF blabbing about GR.
GZF is the community for both friends and serious gamers, and yes, the most serious gamers mostly act like that, so might as well get over it.
Therefore it is the duty of the GunZ Fansite in order to keep the userbase alive. Has GunZ Factor done that? In 3 years, the only thing major GunZ Factor has done is I'll safely say.what is there to say? Added a videos section to the forums? A downloads section? Provided decent support?
Hello!? GunZ Revolution's been doing all that in a matter of 2 months; we've replicated the success of GunZ Factor which took 3 years to 2 months.
Actually, GZF has been pretty successful since the beginning [of International Edition in mid-2005].
It's pretty easy to handle a handful of users with support (1-10 users simultaneously per 15-min slice? Pretty easy to respond to every post.)
Also, there are user-run goodies frequently.
As for "Axium v Travia", that's not something new. IGUNZ players did something like that once, and some users from GZF are doing a different epic battle idea. ;)
Oh, and please, stop spamming (every other round in a TDM or every clan war) advertisements in-game with all of your clan members; that's probably the most annoying thing next to hackers.
Meritis
01-29-2008, 05:08 PM
Seriously, stop trying to trash GZF or its community with these threads.
You don't see me or people from GZF blabbing about GR.
http://www.gunzfactor.com/forums/f43/170190-pah_anyone_seen.html
Another one which I'm too lazy to post up, as well as 2x more.
GZF is the community for both friends and serious gamers, and yes, the most serious gamers mostly act like that, so might as well get over it.
That's why I'm making a fan site maybe? I'm not getting over it, I'm going to do something about it.
Actually, GZF has been pretty successful since the beginning [of International Edition in mid-2005].
Actually, the threads had 2 - 5 posts per thread.
It's pretty easy to handle a handful of users with support (1-10 users simultaneously per 15-min slice? Pretty easy to respond to every post.)
What?
Also, there are user-run goodies frequently.
As for "Axium v Travia", that's not something new. IGUNZ players did something like that once, and some users from GZF are doing a different epic battle idea. ;)
User-run and fansite run. Big difference. Fansite run ensures quality. I've seen over 100 "Tournament and Ladder" threads on GzF, not many have pulled through.
If you're talking about the GunZ ladder...it's going to be by GzR lol if scuba ever IMs me.
Oh, and please, stop spamming (every other round in a TDM or every clan war) advertisements in-game with all of your clan members; that's probably the most annoying thing next to hackers.
It's not spam. A macro every round? How the hell is that spam? Compared to what I've seen on GzF, you have no right to talk.
Voltron
01-29-2008, 05:13 PM
I love how he just completely ignores my post cause He knows I'm right.
Meritis
01-29-2008, 05:17 PM
"Equipment style is the explicit use of tactics and rapid shooting weapons in order to kill opponents while taking minimum damage. E-stylers are often related to beginners who use the fundementals of the game such as tumbling and dashing to get the job done. E-style does not use any glitches."
^ Pr0, Equipment style? Try European Style.
E-Style, whether or Equipment Style or European. Equipment is 100x more logical then European because frankly E-Style has NOTHING to do with Europe.
"A level 21+ map, Castle Clan Wars can wage for a full 20 minutes and even longer because of the amount of spawns. The minibridge near Red team spawn becomes a common spot for instafalling. Much of this map's battles are fought aerial because of the extensive amount of space with no ground in this map; particularly in the center."
^ Pr0, Use the same Description for both Castle and Arena Map.
Ahh, thanks for pointing that out. I'll get to work on it tomorrow, gotta finish all my vacation hw.
Procrastination at its' finest -_-;
Maelnin
01-29-2008, 05:59 PM
Meritis, the only post here that might have swayed me to consider this other Gunz forum was the first. After that you lost all composure and made yourself look as bad as any of the flamers I've had to deal with on the Ijji forums. If you're the best they have to offer when advertising their forum, what would I have to look forward to when I actually get there?
If your answer has anything to do with your competitions and other events, let me tell you right now I have no interest.
Oh and Vidoll, all I want to say to you is this -> :thumbsup:
Sheer
01-29-2008, 06:07 PM
What's wrong with using the Ijji forums? o.O
the gm's dont care and ijji is slowly going to hell
meandme
01-29-2008, 06:08 PM
the gm's dont care and ijji is slowly going to hell
Yeah but all forums talk about the same game owned by ijji which is going to hell.
Sheer
01-29-2008, 06:08 PM
and yeah,i would love to join this gunz revolution,hate those guys who cry and overuse noob,it's like an alter ego you know you don't want if it was a real one in real life,and thanks for making all this happen,ill do a similiar post in the revolution later.
Sheer
01-29-2008, 06:10 PM
Yeah but all forums talk about the same game owned by ijji which is going to hell.
well true,but have you seen any gm in the past 3months? i havent and i scaned the forum a few times for any recent gm posts,there either of GM slider who was full of himself about prision quest,hacking,NAT,other stuff,and still,i end up with the same conclusion
Terranwolf
01-29-2008, 06:25 PM
Your replies to my posts are still of ignorance.
Please, get off these forums if you keep on trashing people.
I'm sorry that you can't comprehend my posts. :)
As for
http://www.gunzfactor.com/forums/f43...yone_seen.html
Another one which I'm too lazy to post up, as well as 2x more.
You caused that yourself, buddy.
Voltron
01-29-2008, 06:29 PM
the gm's dont care and ijji is slowly going to hell
Explain then please? It's easy to say there going to hell and GMs don't care. Have you talked with a GM and heard them say they don't care?
Meritis
01-29-2008, 06:35 PM
So basically I caused it upon myself by stating facts? And don't speak of ignorance when coming from GzF.
Sheer
01-29-2008, 06:38 PM
Explain then please? It's easy to say there going to hell and GMs don't care. Have you talked with a GM and heard them say they don't care?
your so picky everythings a mystery to you so far in this thread,but fine ill explain.If you simply look around the forum you see that 4/5 is about problems,and if you look around hard enough you see no gm has been around for months,if your a programer like me,you woudent let this prolonged amount of hackers,noobs and unfairness go for to long,so whos side are you on? ill give you some options
A: with ijji who are a nice staff sure,but don't know crap and are about buisness
B: one of those hackers who over use the word noob
OR
C: someone who can actually back themselves up like i have?
Extra note: if you go on the NHN website you clearly see stocks,marketing,everything to the everyday persons eye,even job openinings
P.S. happy or do you need more? because your not giving IJJI a good defence now
Meritis
01-29-2008, 06:45 PM
your so picky everythings a mystery to you so far in this thread,but fine ill explain.If you simply look around the forum you see that 4/5 is about problems,and if you look around hard enough you see no gm has been around for months,if your a programer like me,you woudent let this prolonged amount of hackers,noobs and unfairness go for to long,so whos side are you on? ill give you some options
A: with ijji who are a nice staff sure,but don't know crap and are about buisness
B: one of those hackers who over use the word noob
OR
C: someone who can actually back themselves up like i have?
Extra note: if you go on the NHN website you clearly see stocks,marketing,everything to the everyday persons eye,even job openinings
P.S. happy or do you need more? because your not giving IJJI a good defence now
You're in NYC as well? Im in queens, u?
vidoll
01-29-2008, 06:47 PM
You're in NYC as well? Im in queens, u?
/stalk >D
went to hs in queens lulz.
_Zephyre_
01-29-2008, 06:49 PM
When was the last time your posts weren't flamed to hell?
When was the last time you didn't try trolling someone whom you strongly disagree with or you don't like to hell?
When was the last time people responded to your criticism in a respectful manner?
When was the last time you responded to people you don't like or strongly disagree with in a respectful manner?
When was the last time GzF held any competition?
When was the last time GZR held a competition that wasn't used to blatantly advertise the site itself across several forums?
When was the last time that the staff treated you with equal respect?
Oh, I'm sorry, darling. Respect is pretty mutual, I think. You can bicker with exceptionally high extents of inarticulate idiocy at us, but we can very well bicker back.
When was the last time Citizen actually spoke with you people as fellow members?
When was the last time you bothered considering that Citizen actually has a busy personal life to contend with?
Oh, of course you have experience with that. You definitely have a life, after all, since you can go around the Internet declaring you have a girlfriend to prove it oh-so-well, and that you go to a supposedly specialised school and whatnot. Oh, and remember that time when you were flaunting about having a supposedly deep voice like some kid just freshly introduced to puberty? Good times.
When was the last time when your suggestions could change the entire site?
When was the last time someone gave a stupid and/or farfetched suggestion? Probably quite recently, but still, we don't get the kind of suggestions coming this way.
When was the last time a few threads went unflamed on GzF?
Let me tell you something right now; GzR is not a hack site, nor is it a private server site. It's a GunZ Fansite, and I can tell you right now why it's imperative you join and support the Revolution.
Let me tell you something right now; people are free to choose what they want, despite your ongoing attempts to spread propaganda about how GZF is trying to control the mindset of the community, which is obviously not the case.
GunZ Factor needs to die; let's face it.
You need to grow up and look at things differently; let's face it.
The staff are corrupted,
Because you didn't get what you wanted? Awesome.
the administrators don't care,
Prove it.
and there are 12 year olds that think they're cool.
You were once a 12-year-old that thinks you're cool.
And you aren't very much different now, actually.
I am tired of the fact that I've had to deal with all their crap for years simply because they were the only GunZ Fansite in existance.
Years? Har. Only? Lies.
Go back to your research and your epic quest to find incriminating evidence on GunZFactor.
Today I can safely say they are not a GunZ Fansite, because quite frankly, what does a Fansite require? Articles, competitions, intelligent community, and a supporting userbase. Fansites are used to further promote the product they are a fan of. Do you honestly want a new potential GunZ player to hop onto GzF and read a thread? What will they find? "EZ PZ, 20-0 MOAR NOOB!"
Fads. Something tells me the inability to differentiate joke/mock flaming from actual flaming with the intention to annoy/offend/anger some other user is one major contributory factor to your stand in the matter.
Honestly, step away from that. The reason I made GzR in the first place was not in order to take away their userbase.
Really? You look like you've been trying. Hard.
God knows I can't do that, there are too many idiots there that I frankly don't want.
I know one really big one on your site.
It was to give a better representation of GunZ, to help the game I've loved for so long grow.
Since when did a game's fansite represent the game?
And you loved it by being a self-declared gladiator pro and trash talking and supposedly owning and trolling other users in the past. Right.
If GunZ Factor continues to "represent" GunZ, I guarantee you the game will die.
If you continue believing that the fansite represents the game, I guarantee you you're going insane.
Every week the number of GunZ players are going down several tens.
Prove it.
No, it's not because the game is getting boring. Well partially, it is. Who's to blame? Ijji of course!
There's tension between fansites. Who's to blame? Diamons, of course!
Therefore it is the duty of the GunZ Fansite in order to keep the userbase alive.
Therefore, it is someone's idea that it is the duty of a GunZ fansite to keep the userbase alive.
Has GunZ Factor done that?
No. Should it be trying?
In 3 years, the only thing major GunZ Factor has done is I'll safely say.what is there to say? Added a videos section to the forums? A downloads section? Provided decent support?
You mean we need major things?
Hello!? GunZ Revolution's been doing all that in a matter of 2 months; we've replicated the success of GunZ Factor which took 3 years to 2 months.
If you've seriously been doing some replicating, aren't you bound to meet the same fate?
Your opinions, your posts, but most of all, your registration, can be the difference in letting the spam filled hate forum GunZ Factor represent GunZ or let GunZ Revolution be the forum people turn to for a mature community.
Mature community? GunZ? Led by you?
lol
Good one.
This isn't a plea for members; frankly I could care less if you think this site sucks, if the members are scrubs,
Your reactions suggest otherwise.
or if you wanna come hump me.
Kinky.
But think about this; a year or two down the line, you'll get bored of this game. Do you really want the only good things of GunZ to be those flame wars and ego posts on GunZ and GunZ Factor?
Since when were they good things of GunZ?
The decision is up to you, but this is just a clarification for the ************************s that think this is a private server.
Wrong. It's also another attempt at advertising.
Naturally.
Get your head out of your ************; it isn't. I don't know how much simpler it can get then reading the words on the GunZ Revolution main page: does anyone see any references to private servers whatsoever?
Well, it definitely shares the same name as one private server.
Talk to me when your IQ passes that of a 5 year old. Your post has so many flaws in itslelf. Like, for example, capitalizing? Commas?
So you fall back to the quality of the post when you don't have anything else to bicker about. Pretty ironic, given how your posts aren't exactly perfect, either.
Cry myself to sleep, lmao you make me laugh with all your baseless assumptions.
You make us laugh with all your baseless assumptions, too.
Just shows GzF is getting more and more desperate by the day.
GZF is desperate, but it isn't doing anything. Nice.
And that's also ironic coming from you, from the way you've been blatantly advertising your site in all sorts of creative ways on the forums. Sounds pretty...desperate?
Not really. We're the ONLY GunZ Fansite in existance. GunZ ************tor isn't a fansite, it's an ego site.
Funny. Your site practically runs on your ego. You know, you and your superiority complex and all. Let your ego fuel it. It's not going to run dry any time soon.
And way to acknowledge GZR to be the only GunZ fansite currently in existence. Definitely reflects your ignorance, even if you discount GZF.
Why do I care why the staff are corrupt? Because unlike some people I actually have the balls to do something about problems.
Because unlike some people, you choose to head for multiple attempts at self-glorification over the Internet to feed your ego instead of putting more priority on your personal life.
I mean, seriously. There was nothing between GZF and GZR. You had an idea to come up with some sort of utopia of a site for GunZ. That's fine. But then you decided that peaceful site affiliation was definitely not enough, so you decided to declare some sort of rivalry, and starting trying to compare and place emphasis on GunZFactor's flaws. And of course, you would strive to do better, and make an issue out of how it's supposedly superior.
And what did GunZFactor do? Nothing.
Feel free to start declaring that you will ignore me because my stand on this supposedly means nothing and/or that I have no life for typing up this post/am jealous/am angry/etc. as a reply. I'm not holding you back from your natural reaction(s).
Sheer
01-29-2008, 06:50 PM
You're in NYC as well? Im in queens, u?
manhattan? lol
Meritis
01-29-2008, 06:51 PM
Someone tell me what Zephyre said - she's on my ignore list.
vidoll
01-29-2008, 06:52 PM
holy.. LOL .. XD i almost got lost trying to scroll down here from zephyre's post.
_Zephyre_
01-29-2008, 06:54 PM
Someone tell me what Zephyre said - she's on my ignore list.
That's not a very slick attempt to avoid my post, darling. Though you could very well just put me on your ignore list right now to try proving yourself.
Sheer
01-29-2008, 06:57 PM
lmao that was a long post,kinda pointless because he only needed to summarize it,but w/e i'm not reading all of that,and anyway....i think voltrons gone lol. and yeah,as long as everyone looks at the backround of the main thread,you'll understand,sure it might be a lil harsh and a lil advertisement but you know it's right and you know the dude dosen't mean to hurt anyone,the guys just showing us another way that actually has a better forum then ijji and people who have balls to speak there mind and not get flamed.
i duno if that made sense but i'm to lazy to delete it,but yeah heres a smaller summary.It's simple it's not bad it won't hurt and if your gonna hate fine,but theres no real reason to hate because if you stay here,your posts and threads won't really mean anything if no one in charge takes it into care.
Sheer
01-29-2008, 07:03 PM
TO GUNZ! if anyone needs me i'm #Nine on Q1 =) and since voltron isn't gonna reply,i guess i won the battle,cya there,and uhm Meritis i posted on gunz revolution "fair and new" read it if ya want
Voltron
01-29-2008, 07:23 PM
your so picky everythings a mystery to you so far in this thread,but fine ill explain.If you simply look around the forum you see that 4/5 is about problems,and if you look around hard enough you see no gm has been around for months,if your a programer like me,you woudent let this prolonged amount of hackers,noobs and unfairness go for to long,so whos side are you on? ill give you some options
A: with ijji who are a nice staff sure,but don't know crap and are about buisness
B: one of those hackers who over use the word noob
OR
C: someone who can actually back themselves up like i have?
Extra note: if you go on the NHN website you clearly see stocks,marketing,everything to the everyday persons eye,even job openinings
P.S. happy or do you need more? because your not giving IJJI a good defence now
ZOMG IJJI ARE OUT TO MAKE MONEY, /SHOCKED. The GMs post all the time. And they've gotten rid of the hacks dozens of times. But they're are always ways to make new hacks. Also your post have no validation you have a negative rep. LOL @ The GMs haven't been on for months. Are you ****ing blind? You moronic nub. Seriously go end your life if you're that stupid to think Ijji would do all this for free without trying to make money.
Saniko
01-29-2008, 07:56 PM
Grats, you've ended my lurker phase.
I am tired of the fact that I've had to deal with all their crap for years simply because they were the only GunZ Fansite in existance.
Then why didn't you make GunZ Revolution sooner, rather than put up with it?
Someone tell me what Zephyre said - she's on my ignore list.
He. If you really wanted to read it, the obvious thing to do would be to un-ignore him temporarily. Duh.
Words are nice, but let's see it happen. If you could accomplish all that with a substantial number of active members, I'd kiss your feet. (No offense, but eww...) GunZFactor was like that before MAIET's official forums croaked and the subsequent Great Migration. Honestly, I hate what GZF has become now. Sure, there's plenty of ego and flame and spam to go around, some of the guides need updates or corrections, blah blah blah etc., but back then it was a small, generally close and respectful community, at least in my view. I joined because it was a haven from the madness of the official forums. There were only two moderators for quite a while, because we simply didn't need more than that. But then came the flood (http://www.gunzfactor.com/forums/attachments/off_topic/9299d1159743936-were_you_here-gzf_growth_graph.jpg), and it's become the reincarnate of the OF. (Note: graph is outdated and does not take banned or inactive accounts into consideration.) Anyways, I didn't set out to defend GZF here.
You can't use the words "mature," "intelligent," and "community" in the same sentence, let alone together, when talking about GunZ. Given the overall (lack of) insert-desirable-quality-here of the community from which your members will come from, I doubt you could achieve the utopia fansite you describe. You would have to change the community, the players themselves, if you want a decent forum community. Or would you filter your members, put them through some sort of test to find the "good" ones, or ban whoever you don't like? My two cents of advice to you, if you'll take it: Stay small and it'll be more manageable.
Whatever you do, good luck. :thumbsup:
~Maj
P.S. By the way, in case you didn't know, "GZR" used to be the acronym for GunZFactor. Silly capital letters.
Sheer
01-29-2008, 09:05 PM
ZOMG IJJI ARE OUT TO MAKE MONEY, /SHOCKED. The GMs post all the time. And they've gotten rid of the hacks dozens of times. But they're are always ways to make new hacks. Also your post have no validation you have a negative rep. LOL @ The GMs haven't been on for months. Are you ****ing blind? You moronic nub. Seriously go end your life if you're that stupid to think Ijji would do all this for free without trying to make money.
okay show me one post from a gm that helped,and yes they've stoped hacks ALOT of times,but thats meaite,and you should know that,and one way or another the anti hacks are half @ssed sinc they get bypassed litterally atleast 10mins after the update.
Sheer
01-30-2008, 12:13 AM
Grats, you've ended my lurker phase.
Then why didn't you make GunZ Revolution sooner, rather than put up with it?
He. If you really wanted to read it, the obvious thing to do would be to un-ignore him temporarily. Duh.
Words are nice, but let's see it happen. If you could accomplish all that with a substantial number of active members, I'd kiss your feet. (No offense, but eww...) GunZFactor was like that before MAIET's official forums croaked and the subsequent Great Migration. Honestly, I hate what GZF has become now. Sure, there's plenty of ego and flame and spam to go around, some of the guides need updates or corrections, blah blah blah etc., but back then it was a small, generally close and respectful community, at least in my view. I joined because it was a haven from the madness of the official forums. There were only two moderators for quite a while, because we simply didn't need more than that. But then came the flood (http://www.gunzfactor.com/forums/attachments/off_topic/9299d1159743936-were_you_here-gzf_growth_graph.jpg), and it's become the reincarnate of the OF. (Note: graph is outdated and does not take banned or inactive accounts into consideration.) Anyways, I didn't set out to defend GZF here.
You can't use the words "mature," "intelligent," and "community" in the same sentence, let alone together, when talking about GunZ. Given the overall (lack of) insert-desirable-quality-here of the community from which your members will come from, I doubt you could achieve the utopia fansite you describe. You would have to change the community, the players themselves, if you want a decent forum community. Or would you filter your members, put them through some sort of test to find the "good" ones, or ban whoever you don't like? My two cents of advice to you, if you'll take it: Stay small and it'll be more manageable.
Whatever you do, good luck. :thumbsup:
~Maj
P.S. By the way, in case you didn't know, "GZR" used to be the acronym for GunZFactor. Silly capital letters.
well hey mate look at the GZR page,and uhm...how would GZR stand for GunZfactor? i dont see no R,sorry if thats a lil picky lol.but yeah how?
Saniko
01-30-2008, 12:18 AM
well hey mate look at the GZR page,and uhm...how would GZR stand for GunZfactor? i dont see no R,sorry if thats a lil picky lol.but yeah how?
I have not actually had a chance to check Revolution out for myself recently.
http://gunzfactor.com/images/gfrlogosmall.gif
See the capital R at the end? Yeah, it's "GunZFactoR." But a three-letter acronym like "GZF" is preferable over something longer like "GZFR."
Sheer
01-30-2008, 12:20 AM
http://gunzfactor.com/images/gfrlogosmall.gif
See the capital R at the end? Yeah, it's "GunZFactoR." But a three-letter acronym like "GZF" is preferable over something longer like "GZFR."
ahh okay,sorry,missed that small detail.
-(Vergil)-
01-30-2008, 01:31 AM
free hats!!!!!!!!!!
Voltron
01-30-2008, 06:24 AM
okay show me one post from a gm that helped,and yes they've stoped hacks ALOT of times,but thats meaite,and you should know that,and one way or another the anti hacks are half @ssed sinc they get bypassed litterally atleast 10mins after the update.
Actually there have been several time where Ijji has gone without hacks for several months. But I guess since you just sit on the forums and insult the GMs and Ijji that you wouldn't notice something like that.
687565
01-30-2008, 06:44 AM
Ya I'm regiestered on there but I've only posted about once in the past like 2 months? lol. I really only just browse around and most people are just flaming and making dumb threads.
Same here, xD
xHellPro
01-30-2008, 06:57 AM
GzR site looks way more pro than Gunz factor.
Chionosaku
01-30-2008, 08:47 AM
When was the last time your posts weren't flamed to hell? A: Long time ago..
When was the last time people responded to your criticism in a respectful manner? A: Long time ago
When was the last time GzF held any tournament? A: Dunno.
When was the last time GzF held any competition? A: Dunno
When was the last time that the staff treated you with equal respect? A: Never..
When was the last time Citizen actually spoke with you people as fellow members? A: Who's that?
When was the last time when your suggestions could change the entire site? A: I dunno, rofl.
When was the last time a few threads went unflamed on GzF? A: GzF? I never go on GzF.
Sheer
01-30-2008, 07:26 PM
Actually there have been several time where Ijji has gone without hacks for several months. But I guess since you just sit on the forums and insult the GMs and Ijji that you wouldn't notice something like that.
what the hell? true,and what ive said is true,and if i over exagurated some things my bad,but in some of your earlier posts your obnxiouis (dunno how to spell it) and questioned everything to get people (me) to a lower level =/ thats how gunz works actually...
JennyInYoFace
02-01-2008, 01:14 AM
your all quest/match 1 scrubs who can't join a decent clan ROFL
Nosedigger
02-01-2008, 02:04 AM
GzR site looks way more pro than Gunz factor.
Half-Life 2: Deathmatch looks way more pro than GunZ... and yet here we are.
Maelnin
02-01-2008, 02:11 AM
Half-Life 2: Deathmatch looks way more pro than GunZ... and yet here we are.
I'm trying to picture how a k-styler would fair in a game like that. Not well I can imagine.
Nosedigger
02-01-2008, 02:46 AM
I'm trying to picture how a k-styler would fair in a game like that. Not well I can imagine.
Depends on how the kStyler plays - not all are the same.
Maelnin
02-01-2008, 03:22 AM
Depends on how the kStyler plays - not all are the same.
Pretty much every move within k-style would be useless outside of Gunz. You've got whatever aim and reflexes you've acquired over time and that's about it.
koreanbabe
02-01-2008, 03:33 AM
euhm wat did gzf do?
what about saying we where a hacksite and a private server and promoting hacks for na gunz?
and most of the people who posted in this thread saying ijji there mod's fail, gunz is failing
then freaking stop playing it delete it?
nobody is telling you to play the game
I <3 it so i don't complain
[M]Korean from gzr btw
have a nice day
Sheer
02-01-2008, 03:35 AM
euhm wat did gzf do?
what about saying we where a hacksite and a private server and promoting hacks for na gunz?
and most of the people who posted in this thread saying ijji there mod's fail, gunz is failing
then freaking stop playing it delete it?
nobody is telling you to play the game
I <3 it so i don't complain
[M]Korean from gzr btw
have a nice day
a little late there [M] lol
Nosedigger
02-01-2008, 04:29 AM
Pretty much every move within k-style would be useless outside of Gunz. You've got whatever aim and reflexes you've acquired over time and that's about it.
kStyle doesn't need to be played with the whole focus on specific moves, but we're off-topic anyway.
koreanbabe
02-01-2008, 04:48 AM
a little late there [M] lol
im busy =)
hosting tournaments and stuff and play concerts
i can't be active everywhere =)
but im sure defending GZR against crap talk =)
Sheer
02-01-2008, 02:27 PM
im busy =)
hosting tournaments and stuff and play concerts
i can't be active everywhere =)
but im sure defending GZR against crap talk =)
same here (sorta lol),i would go on GZR but im either to lazy or blowing some cryer away with spray,but yeah i guess you are swatting em' flys away ey?
Maelnin
02-01-2008, 03:56 PM
kStyle doesn't need to be played with the whole focus on specific moves, but we're off-topic anyway.
What do you mean? K-style is defined by its moves and every one is exploiting a glitch in the game. THIS game alone. If you aren't using glitches in that way then you aren't k-styling.
Nosedigger
02-01-2008, 07:14 PM
What do you mean? K-style is defined by its moves and every one is exploiting a glitch in the game. THIS game alone. If you aren't using glitches in that way then you aren't k-styling.
Yes, but it's up to you how you want to use those moves. Whether you want to spam, play off speed, go aerial, or attempt to be a ninja. Godammit, how did you miss something so obvious? GunZ doesn't have to be all about who hits more keys if you can be creative.
Maelnin
02-01-2008, 07:20 PM
Yes, but it's up to you how you want to use those moves. Whether you want to spam, play off speed, go aerial, or attempt to be a ninja. Godammit, how did you miss something so obvious? GunZ doesn't have to be all about who hits more keys if you can be creative.
That's strategy and has nothing specifically to do with k-style. I didn't miss that, I just didn't think you were speaking so broadly. What defines k-style is the moves, not the way you use them. Regardless of all that though, you can't strategize for moves you don't have.
Nosedigger
02-01-2008, 07:49 PM
That's strategy and has nothing specifically to do with k-style. I didn't miss that, I just didn't think you were speaking so broadly. What defines k-style is the moves, not the way you use them. Regardless of all that though, you can't strategize for moves you don't have.
If I remember right, you were speaking about kStylers, and not kStyle. Moves and melee weapon define kStyle, true - but they do not define kStylers to the same extent, and those kStylers were what you brought up, not kStyle itself. I didn't realize you were going to be unable to differentiate between the two.
-(Vergil)-
02-01-2008, 08:03 PM
kung phooee
Maelnin
02-01-2008, 10:00 PM
If I remember right, you were speaking about kStylers, and not kStyle. Moves and melee weapon define kStyle, true - but they do not define kStylers to the same extent, and those kStylers were what you brought up, not kStyle itself. I didn't realize you were going to be unable to differentiate between the two.
You're either missing my point or purposefully ignoring it. If what you're trying to say is that a k-styler doesn't necessarily depend on k-style to play well then I agree, but that's not what I was talking about. You can be pedantic as you like over my choice of words but that doesn't serve to develop your argument.
How would a k-styler perform in a game like Half-life 2? They would do as well as their abilities in that game allow, not their skills as a k-styler. If you really did think I meant something else then I'm sorry to lay it on so thick, but I believed an idea such as "people who k-style can only be good at Gunz" was such a moronic thing to say you wouldn't have connected it with my posts. Obviously I need to be clearer.
Then again maybe you're just a hardcore k-styler who feels he needs to quash any suggestion that his way of playing is restricted to the game in which the glitches he exploits can be found.
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 01:02 AM
You're either missing my point or purposefully ignoring it.
Or maybe you're being stupid.
You can be pedantic as you like over my choice of words but that doesn't serve to develop your argument.
Pedantic?
You view kStyle as a moveset in essence. That's fine - that's how I see it too.
But you also see kStylers as being bound to that same essence to the same extent - when kStyle and kStylers are two very different things.
kStyle is a moveset: that means that it provides the tools for play in the form of the 'moves' we know from Slash Shot to Reload Half Half Step. kStyle is defined by these moves, both within and outside the GunZ community, because if you don't have a sword and you're not playing GunZ then you're not going to be able to kStyle.
kStylers are also defined by these moves, because they play off them to a large extent. Nevertheless, kStylers are NOT set in stone, they are NOT moves you just pick out of a guidebook. They have brains and they use kStyle as their weapon in any way they see fit. Granted, creativity with kStyle is lacking nowadays, but look at replays of people like ShadowSkullz or Gosu and you'll see that it's definitely far from impossible.
kStyle is the weapon of kStylers - they are not one and the same. Yet when I talked about variety in players, you brought up kStyle and told me it's moves were useless outside of GunZ. Yes, Slash Shot is useless outside of GunZ, but I don't see how Slash Shot restricts someone's creativity unless there's an idiot behind the keyboard. kStyle is for most intents and purposes a weapon.
You used a weapon to justify your assumption that the person behind the weapon had to be limited by using that weapon. That does not make any sense, because if I gave you full capability to use the full extent of kStyle, with swords, shotguns, and an intimate knowledge of GunZ physics, you would still have a choice whether to use Butterfly defensively, evasively, or aggressively. You would have the choice to forgo butterfly completely and not learn it at all. You could put all focus into gun moves instead - maybe you'd be a chronic Half-Stepper. And what then? How would you develop further?
With Half Step you might want to go aerial and shoot off the walls in protracted air fights. Maybe you want to pop in and out of corners like a ninja. Maybe you want to spam it. My point is that kStyle doesn't restrict you if you can do it - it opens up possibilities.
So how is the Butterfly the same as the one who uses it?
How would a k-styler perform in a game like Half-life 2? They would do as well as their abilities in that game allow, not their skills as a k-styler.
Of course. You can't fly in Half-Life 2, and you can't lay on devastating melee combo attacks. But both games have similarities. Both games call on a player's capacity for quick thinking and clever responses. Therefore good players of both games share similarities in the common fields of excellence required by both games. And it's not just Half-Life. Memorizing a build order for Generals isn't that far from memorizing an instafall combo. SCV-dancing in Starcraft isn't miles away from Yoyo-hopping. But when everybody knows the rules, it all usually comes down to who's more imaginative, who can react dynamically, and basically who's faster in doing it. In Generals a player might use a well-timed carpet bomb to flush away a battle group of rocket humvees. In Starcraft players sometimes use weak resource-gatherers for early surprise attacks. In GunZ, while being pursued by three enemies, you can wait for them to walk past your hiding spot, put a single round into the guy at the rear and thus invite him to follow you to a place where you can pick him off. In Half-Life 2 you see an enemy using a car for cover, and you can slam the car into the idiot with your gravity gun. If you're a fast thinker in Half-Life you'll very probably be one in GunZ, Starcraft, Dota, Call of Duty, or otherwise.
When I said that kStyle didn't need to be played with the whole focus on specific moves, you said that you didn't know what I meant - obviously you could not see how kStyle could possibly offer anything beyond new moves. What were your exact words? "K-style is defined by its moves and every one is exploiting a glitch in the game." Yes, I know that, but I was talking about kStylers, not kStyle. The difference, as I just interated, is not minor, and is not negligible. I'm pedantic for noticing that a weapon is different from the people that use it? Get a brain, please.
If you really did think I meant something else then I'm sorry to lay it on so thick, but I believed an idea such as "people who k-style can only be good at Gunz" was such a moronic thing to say you wouldn't have connected it with my posts. Obviously I need to be clearer.
If what you're trying to say is that a k-styler doesn't necessarily depend on k-style to play well then I agree, but that's not what I was talking about.
You know what I think? I think you did mean all that poop you implied and you're just trying to cover your bum now. Either that or you seriously didn't think through your reasoning enough, because I'm seeing contradictions.
Did you say that "people who k-style can only be good at Gunz"? Yes, I think you implied it. I brought up the fact that kStylers weren't restricted by moves, and you said that kStyle (which I will remind you is NOT the same as the kStylers that use kStyle, and therefore is a poor response to my post because it deals with something different) is defined (and here it's not a large step to infer that you meant 'restricted') by it's moves. Since kStyle restricts people as you implied, and taking into account that you don't think a kStyler would fare well in HL2 (your exact words were "I'm trying to picture how a k-styler would fair in a game like that. Not well I can imagine."), it's pretty darn easy to get the vibe that you think kStyle is the catalyst of why a kStyler would not be able to play HL2 very well. Because kStyle is supposedly the catalyst of not being able to play HL2, and kStyle is limited only to GunZ players, it's not the leap of the century to infer that you're saying GunZ players can't play most kind of conventional games or shooters that don't have anything similar to kStyle.
In a nutshell: you said that kStylers would not fare well in HL2, and you implied that this was because kStyle restricted kStylers. Therefore, you apparently were of the opinion that kStyle stops people from being good at other games. There's your point - I invite you to prove otherwise.
Then again maybe you're just a hardcore k-styler who feels he needs to quash any suggestion that his way of playing is restricted to the game in which the glitches he exploits can be found.
My way of playing is to be unexpected and abuse lag. The last time I checked, those were viable tactics in HL2: DM. I don't rely wholly on my glitches; I use them to augment my play, not serve as it's foundations. Is my way of playing restricted? I doubt it.
And it's very nice to see that just because I come up in defense of kStyle, you automatically suspect me of being a hardcore kStyler. Just because someone is an advocate of women's rights doesn't mean he's female. Just because one detests democracy doesn't mean he supports communism. Just because I seem to be defending kStyle here (and technically, I'm not, because if you had tried the same thing with dStyle this would have played out the same), that doesn't mean I'm a hardcore kStyler.
In fact, to prove that your black-and-white view of people is a real waste of cellular material, ask anyone who has seen me before in a game. I haven't touched a sword for ages and I've been dStyling for a year. I'm a dStyler, you piece of cretin. If I've ever played hardcore (and I haven't), I was playing it with a dagger in my hand. I find it funny that you can call me pedantic, when your ignorance can cause you to subscribe to such a pathetic stereotype stemming from the same primitive principles that governs soiled trains of thought such as racism and sexism.
Want to know my real motive for "quashing"? My hobby is showing up idiots who pretend to be smart.
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 02:54 AM
At first I wasn't going to even read your post. I mean come on, there's no where near enough material in your argument to justify that much text. Seldom is hyperboly disguised worse than here. Being the kind of person I am though, I'm just too full of myself to let this argument slip because my opponent has opted to assault me with word count over word usage.
At its core, your post is really quite simple. You are saying that my posts were implying k-stylers are limited in the way they play by their move-set. I never said this, and your misinterpretation doesn't change that fact. You go on and on about strategy and I could argue with you there as well but I already have. You've just chosen to act as though I was saying something else all along. Looking back I see there was no need to call you pedantic for pointing out differences in k-style and k-stylers, since I didn't state the latter were the subject of my point. Maybe the fact that I used the term k-styler in my very first post was enough for you to jump to that conclusion.
To underline my point above, you claim that I assumed you were a hardcore k-styler. Again, I can only direct you back to the post. I said perhaps you were. Do I need to point out the difference here, or are you capable of doing that on your own?
After wading through your entire post I can guess at the intention of your blatant disregard of brevity. If you were briefer it would have been clear that you were deciding for yourself what my argument was all about. You finish up your response by attempting to belittle and insult me. I've tried to keep the argument civil this far and I'll continue to do so, but you can throw your little volleys of attitude at me if you really like. I'm an adult; I can handle it. :thumbsup:
ryouko
02-02-2008, 03:35 AM
What's wrong with using the Ijji forums? o.O
I vouce that lol.
-I've been posting n ijji since the first gunz frums, and since March 07. Ijji hosts actual offical events :P
-I only got flamed maybe once but on the drift city section
-I REALLY don't want to try re-mking a high post count on a diffrent forum.
Also...I rather like Gzr just because on Gzf..the site just looks...weird. The Admins there are like the Admins here, they jsut mod the forums, I made an account on GzR and the Mods and Admins there are more freindly and answer the questions they can i guess...Ionno i never went on GzF.
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 05:50 AM
At first I wasn't going to even read your post. I mean come on, there's no where near enough material in your argument to justify that much text. Seldom is hyperboly disguised worse than here. Being the kind of person I am though, I'm just too full of myself to let this argument slip because my opponent has opted to assault me with word count over word usage.
Yeah, I like textwalling. It can be pretty effective. Some people will just back out and jump ship after I dump a text wall - others will come back to me with a quick post and try to flash me with irrelevant things, while ignoring my main points. Have you noticed that less than half of your post actually addresses what I have said above, and even then, nothing of what you have said really has anything to back it up?
At its core, your post is really quite simple. You are saying that my posts were implying k-stylers are limited in the way they play by their move-set. I never said this
Nobody said you did. You don't have to say it to imply it.
and your misinterpretation doesn't change that fact.
I'm pretty sure I've provided enough material to convince the less cretinous that my intepretation was correct.
You go on and on about strategy and I could argue with you there as well but I already have.
Oh hot damn I didn't know that!
You've just chosen to act as though I was saying something else all along.
Prove it.
Looking back I see there was no need to call you pedantic for pointing out differences in k-style and k-stylers, since I didn't state the latter were the subject of my point.
If that was indeed the subject of your so-called point, you would never have brought up kStyle in the way you did - assuming you really do see kStyle as a moveset and nothing much more.
Maybe the fact that I used the term k-styler in my very first post was enough for you to jump to that conclusion.
And maybe I like mudkipz. If this is another stereotyped accusation about my hardcore kStyle-ness, please make it more obvious. Otherwise, I don't see the link.
To underline my point above, you claim that I assumed you were a hardcore k-styler. Again, I can only direct you back to the post. I said perhaps you were. Do I need to point out the difference here, or are you capable of doing that on your own?
And perhaps the sky will fall right now. Maybe I should go into the basement.
Haven't you ever heard of probability?
Why would you even bring up the possibility that I might be a hardcore kStyler if it was not relevant? And it wasn't relevant - please prove otherwise if you can. Therefore what other reason would you have to consider such a possibility out loud unless you wished for others to consider that possibility as well?
Do I have to draw you a picture of your poorly-veiled implication further, or are you capable of doing that on your own?
After wading through your entire post I can guess at the intention of your blatant disregard of brevity.
And I think you're an idiot. Relevance plz?
...you were deciding for yourself what my argument was all about.
No, dear. I was justifying that decision. A justification which you seem to be avoiding with a purpose.
You finish up your response by attempting to belittle and insult me.
You look plenty belittled and insulted to me, so I think 'succeeding' might be a better word.
I've tried to keep the argument civil this far
Nice of you to indulge in a little hypocrisy - just as well it's in full view.
Then again maybe you're just a hardcore k-styler who feels he needs to quash any suggestion that his way of playing is restricted to the game in which the glitches he exploits can be found.
Oh boy, that's civil.
and I'll continue to do so, but you can throw your little volleys of attitude at me if you really like.
bwa ha ha ha you can't keep ur shieeld up 4ever
I'm an adult; I can handle it. :thumbsup:
As the optimistic emoticon clearly demonstrates.
:thumbsup:
Hey! Look! I'm an adult too!
_Zephyre_
02-02-2008, 06:25 AM
And then we all look back and notice that all of this started because someone imagined a K-Styler not being able to fare well in HL2: DM.
(1 disagreement + 2 smartasses)Forum = Epik 1v1 bow forum duel w/ no meds
Welcome to PostZ: The Duel.
-(Vergil)-
02-02-2008, 06:30 AM
by ready this page, http://www.gunzrevolution.com/guides/hacks.php
makes me think gunz has no future of having an hacker-free game..
theres private servers, bots, waryas(the one that makes hacks and make an anti-hack himself), admin hack etc..
so, gunzrevolution is a very useful website..
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 06:35 AM
And then we all look back and notice that all of this started because someone imagined a K-Styler not being able to fare well in HL2: DM.
(1 disagreement + 2 smartasses)Forum = Epik 1v1 bow forum duel w/ no meds
Welcome to PostZ: The Duel.
stfu k, i is winning
Kiedobu
02-02-2008, 09:30 AM
To all the people who complain about getting flamed on GunZFactor: Guess what? You probably deserve it. In almost a year and a half, I have never been insulted on GZF outside of a single person (who now sings my praise whenever I post a new move). If you want to see flames, go check out the replies I get for any of the threads I've made in the Styles section of these "official" forums and you will find an abundance of ignorance.
I will never use GunZRevolution because they give no respect whatsoever to D-Stylers. I searched their forums, managed to find only one thread that was actually related to the Dagger and ascertained that the GZR staff themselves consider it to be insignificant. Even the "Introduction to Styles" section on their main page has a false and demeaning summary of D-Style that has yet to be changed despite the fact that I bring it up in almost every one of these threads.
GZR has the potential to become a very good fansite if you scrap your forum and focus more on the actual website. Citizen hasn't posted any news since November so people have to scour the forums to get any information about what's happening in the community. If you just constantly update your site with news about glitches, clans, rumors, upcoming premiums or client updates and write a few articles every now and then, your popularity would skyrocket. That will never happen though because you actually think you have a shot at replacing GunZFactor.
687565
02-02-2008, 10:38 AM
This thread got pwned by enough people, let it die pl0x!!!
he@d$h07
02-02-2008, 12:03 PM
To all the people who complain about getting flamed on GunZFactor: Guess what? You probably deserve it. In almost a year and a half, I have never been insulted on GZF outside of a single person (who now sings my praise whenever I post a new move).
Oh ok I guess that's how you developed you huge ego.
Shia840
02-02-2008, 12:26 PM
Let thread die nao plawks.
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 02:05 PM
And then we all look back and notice that all of this started because someone imagined a K-Styler not being able to fare well in HL2: DM.
(1 disagreement + 2 smartasses)Forum = Epik 1v1 bow forum duel w/ no meds
Welcome to PostZ: The Duel.
I'm going to have to agree with you. This argument is starting to go around in circles and we're both beginning to look bad.
Hey! Look! I'm an adult too!
Holy crap, you're an adult? Had me fooled. Well you've ignored and avoided most of what I've said for long enough, so I'm just going to leave it here.
DYE_Slayer
02-02-2008, 02:19 PM
And then we all look back and notice that all of this started because someone imagined a K-Styler not being able to fare well in HL2: DM.
(1 disagreement + 2 smartasses)Forum = Epik 1v1 bow forum duel w/ no meds
Welcome to PostZ: The Duel.
Speaks Truth.
Rufinito18
02-02-2008, 02:22 PM
1 question to ask yourself.
1. When will I stop shamelessly advertising my site everytime I get a chance?
gzf may not be made of puppies, love, unicorns and all that but its already a well established forum with many posters and active posts. games will always have that many fansites, but only one will actually be the main one people look into. so i guess you can cry yourself to sleep, that you werent the first one to build a gunz oriented fansite, maybe then it would have been what gzf is and you wont have to do all these desperate shameless plugs.
Quoted for Truth
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 06:09 PM
I'm going to have to agree with you. This argument is starting to go around in circles and we're both beginning to look bad.
lol
Holy crap, you're an adult? Had me fooled. Well you've ignored and avoided most of what I've said for long enough, so I'm just going to leave it here.
Coming from the person who only replied to one sentence of my last post? It's sad that nearly all the seemingly quasi-intelligent people I meet on the forums are really just pretentious hypocrites in disguise.
And this - is why GZF > everything else. We have plenty of people going around eating children like you for breakfast.
To all the people who complain about getting flamed on GunZFactor: Guess what? You probably deserve it. In almost a year and a half, I have never been insulted on GZF outside of a single person (who now sings my praise whenever I post a new move). If you want to see flames, go check out the replies I get for any of the threads I've made in the Styles section of these "official" forums and you will find an abundance of ignorance.
Because the people on GZF don't have comprehension problems.
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 06:18 PM
After seeing posts from people of both other forums, I have never been more certain that the Ijji forums are the place for me. :D
MGSmaster0
02-02-2008, 06:34 PM
nosedigger, you're an idiot child, shush
gzf sucks, gtfo of my forum and never return
why do i say this?
well, if you're in so much denial about gzf being so much better than this forum, why do u continue to post here?
<-----------one of the most loved and respected people on these forums
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 06:38 PM
nosedigger, you're an idiot child, shush
gzf sucks, gtfo of my forum and never return
why do i say this?
well, if you're in so much denial about gzf being so much better than this forum, why do u continue to post here?
<-----------one of the most loved and respected people on these forums
Nice to see a genuinely intelligent person voice what I've been thinking for so long. Particularly someone I know from experience can actually argue.
MGSmaster0
02-02-2008, 06:39 PM
i'm not known as the thread-killer and idiot-slayer for nothing :o
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 06:42 PM
Arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand. I doubt this guy will ever own up to losing an internet-battle.
MGSmaster0
02-02-2008, 06:50 PM
i cant wait till s/he does, ima mass-spam gzf with this
Kiedobu
02-02-2008, 06:51 PM
I have an IQ of 156.
MGSmaster0
02-02-2008, 06:52 PM
hah, even if it was, IQ is useless
your IQ is a measure of your capacity of thought, nothing more
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 06:54 PM
I have an IQ of 156.
Not bad. Mine's still higher. :D And incidentally, no one cares about either of our IQs. Post something that proves your intelligence and I will be impressed.
MGSmaster0
02-02-2008, 06:58 PM
hah, even if it was, IQ is useless
your IQ is a measure of your capacity of thought, nothing more
ah yes, we know this as "creativity"
IQ is merely a measure on your ability to think outside of routine, outside of the box, to be able to think on a "different level" in the aspect of perspective
it means nothing to core intelligence, it's just something that follows a person's intelligence, and in reality, it shows nothing
a mentally retarted person with an IQ of 55 can trip across an idea and somebody can go from that and create something that saves thousands of lives, but at the same time a genious with an IQ of 155 might not have a usefull idea in their lives
it means nothing
_Zephyre_
02-02-2008, 07:00 PM
nosedigger, you're an idiot child, shush
gzf sucks, gtfo of my forum and never return
why do i say this?
well, if you're in so much denial about gzf being so much better than this forum, why do u continue to post here?
<-----------one of the most loved and respected people on these forums
That post definitely shows how much you've been paying attention to the topic at hand.
Do note that most of Nosedigger's posts in this thread do not pertain to GunZFactor at all. Though you probably skipped the so-called walls of text.
And how is he "in so much denial about gzf being so much better than this forum"? Oh, heck, why would he deny that?
That aside, I'm guessing you feel that being a self-proclaimed one of the most loved and respected people on these forums(doubtful, given your present behaviour and account history) apparently gives you some form of influence upon the opnions of other people.
Nice to see a genuinely intelligent person voice what I've been thinking for so long.
Genuinely intelligent? Are you saying that because you truly feel that he's genuinely intelligent, or is it because he appears to be taking your side on this matter?
i cant wait till s/he does, ima mass-spam gzf with this
Yes, that's very mature of you. You're genuinely intelligent.
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 07:01 PM
ah yes, we know this as "creativity"
IQ is merely a measure on your ability to think outside of routine, outside of the box, to be able to think on a "different level" in the aspect of perspective
Strange, I always thought it was a measure of mechanical and abstract thinking skills. But there are many areas of intelligence that people disregard. Humour is a good example.
MGSmaster0
02-02-2008, 07:03 PM
That post definitely shows how much you've been paying attention to the topic at hand.
Do note that most of Nosedigger's posts in this thread do not pertain to GunZFactor at all. Though you probably skipped the so-called walls of text.
And how is he "in so much denial about gzf being so much better than this forum"? Oh, heck, why would he deny that?
That aside, I'm guessing you feel that being a self-proclaimed one of the most loved and respected people on these forums(doubtful, given your present behaviour and account history) apparently gives you some form of influence upon the opnions of other people.
whoops, minor gramtical error, its been a long day
and no, i didnt bother re-reading most of it, i already followed most of the topic
and it's not self-proclaimed
ask anybody who they love the most on this forum
its MEEEEEEEEEE
_Zephyre_
02-02-2008, 07:07 PM
That's funny. You don't entirely strike me as someone lovable.
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 07:08 PM
That post definitely shows how much you've been paying attention to the topic at hand.
Do note that most of Nosedigger's posts in this thread do not pertain to GunZFactor at all. Though you probably skipped the so-called walls of text.
And how is he "in so much denial about gzf being so much better than this forum"? Oh, heck, why would he deny that?
That aside, I'm guessing you feel that being a self-proclaimed one of the most loved and respected people on these forums(doubtful, given your present behaviour and account history) apparently gives you some form of influence upon the opnions of other people.
You'll find in Nosedigger's last post that he compares the levels of intelligence I displayed here to those on GzF. Most of his waffling is constricted to either preaching at or insulting me, but he does make that distinction.
And MGSmaster does have a reputation. Getting banned as many times as him isn't necessarily a bad sign. XD
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 07:09 PM
gzf sucks, gtfo of my forum and never return
why do i say this?
well, if you're in so much denial about gzf being so much better than this forum, why do u continue to post here?
<-----------one of the most loved and respected people on these forums
ZOMG I DEENT NOE THET THIS WAS UR FORUMZ OSHT ME SORRI
Because the people on GZF have eradicated nearly all the idiots and we miss pwning them.
Nice to see a genuinely intelligent person voice what I've been thinking for so long. Particularly someone I know from experience can actually argue.
Yes, his post clearly shows that. I mean, "gtfo of my forum"? That is smart.
i'm not known as the thread-killer and idiot-slayer for nothing :o
This thread is killed and I has been slayyyyed!!11
Arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand. I doubt this guy will ever own up to losing an internet-battle.
Osht i lost the interwab battle OHWAIT no i didnt u just angry at mi i shure u are.
i cant wait till s/he does, ima mass-spam gzf with this
You do know the mods on GZF are liberal with IP bans, right?
ah yes, we know this as "creativity"
IQ is merely a measure on your ability to think outside of routine, outside of the box, to be able to think on a "different level" in the aspect of perspective
See? We're talking about IQ because it's totally irrelevant.
By the way, I like how Maelnin is somehow forgetting to counter anything I've said in my text wall, and is instead throwing more veiled insults at me although he has said earlier that he agreed with _Zephyre_ about not continuing the argument. More contradiction much? But it doesn't matter - you'll ignore this post - or pretend to. Or you'll simply derail things again and say something totally smart, like maybe
<-----------one of the most loved and respected people on these forums
hay luk ur smaert
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 07:10 PM
Genuinely intelligent? Are you saying that because you truly feel that he's genuinely intelligent, or is it because he appears to be taking your side on this matter?
It's because we've in previous disagreements we've had before he argued his case extremely well against me and actually showed some respect for a point of view other than his own.
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 07:12 PM
You'll find in Nosedigger's last post that he compares the levels of intelligence I displayed here to those on GzF.
Strange, I thought you might have noticed that I was also pointing our your hypocrisy and determination not to return to the original argument we were pursuing.
Most of his waffling is constricted to either preaching at or insulting me, but he does make that distinction.
Preaching? No, I'm just embarrassing you. Insults? Yes, you seem to be reacting very strongly to them, so I will continue. Waffling? You forgot the roffling.
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 07:14 PM
It's because we've in previous disagreements we've had before he argued his case extremely well against me and actually showed some respect for a point of view other than his own.
Says the person who more or less ignored my arguments after I dropped my first text wall. Respect for your point of view? Prove it. Oh wait, you can't.
By the way, where did we meet before?
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 07:15 PM
After seeing posts from people of both other forums, I have never been more certain that the Ijji forums are the place for me. :D
Wow, that was a good comeback, considering that it didn't address anything I said. But it is on-topic, so you get happy points (which make you an adult! yay!).
MGSmaster0
02-02-2008, 07:16 PM
ZOMG I DEENT NOE THET THIS WAS UR FORUMZ OSHT ME SORRI
Because the people on GZF have eradicated nearly all the idiots and we miss pwning them.
really? i guess thats why you're here
poor you, "eradicated" from your own forum
Yes, his post clearly shows that. I mean, "gtfo of my forum"? That is smart.
indeed it is, now gtfo
This thread is killed and I has been slayyyyed!!11
damn-skippy
Osht i lost the interwab battle OHWAIT no i didnt u just angry at mi i shure u are.
and you're a mod?
no wonder why gzf is as ************ed up as it is
You do know the mods on GZF are liberal with IP bans, right?
you are an idiot xD
you act as if an IP ban WORKS
By the way, I like how Maelnin is somehow forgetting to counter anything I've said in my text wall, and is instead throwing more veiled insults at me although he has said earlier that he agreed with _Zephyre_ about not continuing the argument. More contradiction much? But it doesn't matter - you'll ignore this post - or pretend to. Or you'll simply derail things again and say something totally smart, like maybe
hay luk ur smaert
as i'v said, and you're a mod for gzf?
ah yes, the power of red
It's because we've in previous disagreements we've had before he argued his case extremely well against me and actually showed some respect for a point of view other than his own.
exactly
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 07:17 PM
Yes, his post clearly shows that. I mean, "gtfo of my forum"? That is smart.
I wasn't talking about this post, but nice try. That's the third major assumption from you so far.
Osht i lost the interwab battle OHWAIT no i didnt u just angry at mi i shure u are.
Don't worry about it mate. You'd have to do a lot better than that to get a rise out of me. XD
By the way, I like how Maelnin is somehow forgetting to counter anything I've said in my text wall, and is instead throwing more veiled insults at me although he has said earlier that he agreed with _Zephyre_ about not continuing the argument. More contradiction much? But it doesn't matter - you'll ignore this post - or pretend to. Or you'll simply derail things again and say something totally smart, like maybe
Well I wasn't arguing with you was I? I feel that I've already countered the real points you hid in your wall of text and I'm not going to bother going over it again. Yes, I do have a habit of speaking my mind about forumers I dislike but that's not a contradiction. I'm not concerned with the argument itself now, I've just decided to voice my lack of respect for you. I haven't ignored any posts so far, but I have skipped the arguments you've fabricated based on words you've put into my mouth. Pretty sure I already made that clear before as well.
Believe it or not, I'm not interested in making myself look smart on a forum. I used to be like you at one stage, and really didn't like being so arrogant. One day I'm sure you'll learn that intelligence isn't a virtue.
MGSmaster0
02-02-2008, 07:19 PM
Strange, I always thought it was a measure of mechanical and abstract thinking skills. But there are many areas of intelligence that people disregard. Humour is a good example.
that, in part, is what creativity is =/
atleast i think, iunno, been a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG day
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 07:19 PM
Preaching? No, I'm just embarrassing you. Insults? Yes, you seem to be reacting very strongly to them, so I will continue. Waffling? You forgot the roffling.
I guess you can consider the considerable time I've put into replying a reaction.
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 07:20 PM
ah yes, the power of red
exactly
Wow, you are overwhelming me with your reddies.
really? i guess thats why you're here
You got the correct answer! Want a lollipop?
indeed it is, now gtfo
NO U GTFO!!11one
and you're a mod?
no wonder why gzf is as ************ed up as it is
ye i take all credit
damn-skippy
You mean the kangaroo?
you are an idiot xD
NO U ARE!!111eleventen
you act as if an IP ban WORKS
It works against idiots.
Hi.
as i'v said, and you're a mod for gzf?
=D
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 07:21 PM
I guess you can consider the considerable time I've put into replying a reaction.
Relevance? I see none.
MGSmaster0
02-02-2008, 07:23 PM
Wow, you are overwhelming me with your reddies.
You got the correct answer! Want a lollipop?
NO U GTFO!!11one
ye i take all credit
You mean the kangaroo?
NO U ARE!!111eleventen
It works against idiots.
Hi.
=D
i'm seriously deriving large amounts of enjoyment from your idiocy, please continue to bring my lack of respect of you to new and outstanding levels
and no, IP banning doesnt work against ANYBODY with a brain, so pretty much you and monk are the only ones that dont qualify, soz
gg, nt, no rm
_Zephyre_
02-02-2008, 07:24 PM
Might just be me, but I can't see any genuine intelligence or argumentative prowess in random red lines of attempted witty comebacks.
and no, IP banning doesnt work against ANYBODY with a brain,
Hence the reason he's implying that it's effective on you.
On a side note, was that your plan all along? Because I have to say it was quite well executed.
How do you know it was executed well if you don't even know his plan?
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 07:26 PM
Relevance? I see none.
I was conceding your point. I actually agree with you on something and you can't see the relevance? How about overwhelming significance?
If that isn't enough to make you happy this should. You have successfully bored me out of talking to you. I haven't been in such a pointless discussion since trying to convince the people at my school that evolution was scientific. You win.
On a side note, was that your plan all along? Because I have to say it was quite well executed.
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 07:29 PM
I wasn't talking about this post, but nice try. That's the third major assumption from you so far.
So tell me about all my assumptions and why all of them are major.
Don't worry about it mate. You'd have to do a lot better than that to get a rise out of me. XD
Well then it looks like I've already done so, because you look pretty pissed off.
Well I wasn't arguing with you was I?
Not initially, but somehow we got into one.
I feel that I've already countered the real points you hid in your wall of text and I'm not going to bother going over it again.
Prove that you have. Or are you going to "feel" that you don't?
Yes, I do have a habit of speaking my mind about forumers I dislike but that's not a contradiction. I'm not concerned with the argument itself now, I've just decided to voice my lack of respect for you.
Oh, so it's a personal attack now. Very good.
I haven't ignored any posts so far, but I have skipped the arguments you've fabricated based on words you've put into my mouth.
Skipped is more or less the same as ignored.
Pretty sure I already made that clear before as well.
Where?
Believe it or not, I'm not interested in making myself look smart on a forum.
Of course, that's why you're here speaking in perfect English.
I used to be like you at one stage, and really didn't like being so arrogant. One day I'm sure you'll learn that intelligence isn't a virtue.
I'll beg to differ on the second point. No comment on the first.
MGSmaster0
02-02-2008, 07:30 PM
Might just be me, but I can't see any genuine intelligence or argumentative prowess in random red lines of attempted witty comebacks.
oh will you just leave?
i see no attempt from you, do u actually take teh internetz battles so seriously that you cant try to thow a joke in or 2?
pathetic
I was conceding your point. I actually agree with you on something and you can't see the relevance? How about overwhelming significance?
If that isn't enough to make you happy this should. You have successfully bored me out of talking to you. I haven't been in such a pointless discussion since trying to convince the people at my school that evolution was scientific. You win.
On a side note, was that your plan all along? Because I have to say it was quite well executed.
it's nosedigger, so boring the hell out of people with idiocy WAS the plan
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 07:32 PM
How do you know it was executed well if you don't even know his plan?
If it was his plan then it was well executed, obviously. Now you're just trying to think of a come-back to everything I post for the Hell of it. XD
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 07:33 PM
i'm seriously deriving large amounts of enjoyment from your idiocy, please continue to bring my lack of respect of you to new and outstanding levels
OKAY!! let me see... hao to b idiet... /checking Complete Idiot's Guide to being a Complete Idiot
BRB
and no, IP banning doesnt work against ANYBODY with a brain
osheet wut tew do nao
so pretty much you and monk are the only ones that dont qualify, soz
I haven't seen Monk stopped by an IP ban yet, ************************ed as he is. Hey! Maybe you still have a chance! Maybe you're not as ************************ed!
gg, nt, no rm
wut? NO I repot u!11
MGSmaster0
02-02-2008, 07:39 PM
OKAY!! let me see... hao to b idiet... /checking Complete Idiot's Guide to being a Complete Idiot
BRB
osheet wut tew do nao
I haven't seen Monk stopped by an IP ban yet, ************************ed as he is. Hey! Maybe you still have a chance! Maybe you're not as ************************ed!
wut? NO I repot u!11
you're the reason some of the people left gzf, a few of my friends did, and even daztrix (or something like that) did and said that you're a moron on GFO
and guess what?
i'm not an idiot, i do scripting and plenty of computer work, ima love spamming your boards with a few bots i'll cook up
_Zephyre_
02-02-2008, 07:39 PM
oh will you just leave?
Uh...
No.
I have as much of a right to attempt to look like a smartass here as you do.
But don't mind me. I'm just here to derail the thread even further.
i see no attempt from you, do u actually take teh internetz battles so seriously that you cant try to thow a joke in or 2?
What attempt? I wasn't trying to make an effort to do the very same thing.
Do you actually take people sparring verbally over the Internet so seriously that you try to defend yourself by attempting to claim it's a joke? Because if it was, it wasn't funny, and your ulterior motives there were rather apparent.
pathetic
Case in point.
Int4rw3bz: Srs Bzness mengz!1
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 07:40 PM
If it was his plan then it was well executed, obviously. Now you're just trying to think of a come-back to everything I post for the Hell of it. XD
No, that's me. lol
I was conceding your point. I actually agree with you on something and you can't see the relevance? How about overwhelming significance?
You want to explain that, or just pretend that you said something incredibly pro?
If that isn't enough to make you happy this should. You have successfully bored me out of talking to you.
I think it's more likely I pissed you off into making another contradiction. If you were bored you wouldn't be here - oh, wait, I forgot you wanted to show your lack of respect for me. S'far as I'm concerned you're not trying very hard on that bit.
I haven't been in such a pointless discussion since trying to convince the people at my school that evolution was scientific. You win.
Does this mean that you're backing out? Without addressing my first text wall properly? I was hoping this'd be the first time.
On a side note, was that your plan all along? Because I have to say it was quite well executed.
This mass of quotes flying around? No. I was really hoping that you're fully admit that you'd gone wrong somewhere and we'd just LOL together about the prospect of someone trying to kStyle in a HL2: DM.
No, I don't think there was any plan. This isn't Operation: Internet Flame.
MGSmaster0
02-02-2008, 07:41 PM
Uh...
No.
I have as much of a right to attempt to look like a smartass here as you do.
But don't mind me. I'm just here to derail the thread even further.
What attempt? I wasn't trying to make an effort to do the very same thing.
Do you actually take people sparring verbally over the Internet so seriously that you try to defend yourself by attempting to claim it's a joke? Because if it was, it wasn't funny, and your ulterior motives there were rather apparent.
Case in point.
Int4rw3bz: Srs Bzness mengz!1
yay for failure?
the only reason i'm posting here is to get my post count up xD
and no, i'm not taking this seriously at all, i had a long day, and making people who take these fights way too seriously look like asshats is my favorite hobby :p
_Zephyre_
02-02-2008, 07:43 PM
you're the reason some of the people left gzf, a few of my friends did, and even daztrix (or something like that) did and said that you're a moron on GFO
You mean, the reason some of the people we don't want left GunZFactor. Now it's a matter of sweeping the rest out.
and guess what?
i'm not an idiot, i do scripting and plenty of computer work, ima love spamming your boards with a few bots i'll cook up
And your ability to 'do scripting and plenty of computer work' proves you're not an idiot how? I've seen people with good coding skills that are total idiots before. Or was that a poor subtle threat to get people to start agreeing with you?
MGSmaster0
02-02-2008, 07:45 PM
You mean, the reason some of the people we don't want left GunZFactor. Now it's a matter of sweeping the rest out.
And your ability to 'do scripting and plenty of computer work' proves you're not an idiot how? I've seen people with good coding skills that are total idiots before. Or was that a poor subtle threat to get people to start agreeing with you?
because your face looks like a bung-hole with eyes :p
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 07:45 PM
yay for failure?
the only reason i'm posting here is to get my post count up xD
and no, i'm not taking this seriously at all, i had a long day, and making people who take these fights way too seriously look like asshats is my favorite hobby :p
More power to you mate. I should take a leaf out of your book next time someone starts an argument with me. It'd probably end up being a lot more entertaining for everyone.
MGSmaster0
02-02-2008, 07:47 PM
because your face looks like a bung-hole with eyes :p
More power to you mate. I should take a leaf out of your book next time someone starts an argument with me. It'd probably end up being a lot more entertaining for everyone.
sooooooooooo much more fun when you've worked from 9am to 10pm
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 07:51 PM
oh will you just leave?
i see no attempt from you, do u actually take teh internetz battles so seriously that you cant try to thow a joke in or 2?
pathetic
Yeah, lame jokes here and there really make internet battles that much more fun. No sarcasm here.
it's nosedigger, so boring the hell out of people with idiocy WAS the plan
Alright, own up! Which one of you forgot to tell me the plan?
you're the reason some of the people left gzf, a few of my friends did
That's good, because they probably wouldn't be able to contribute much there anyway.
and even daztrix (or something like that) did and said that you're a moron on GFO
I'm happy Dazrix stayed away too, but what's GFO?
and guess what?
i'm not an idiot, i do scripting and plenty of computer work,
Yeah, that sure requires a real Bill Gates to do.
But dude, did I call you an idiot? noooooooooooooooooooooo...
ima love spamming your boards with a few bots i'll cook up
Oh! Oh! Oh! Thanks for giving us advance warning of your holy crusade. Do you want me to prepare cake for you?
the only reason i'm posting here is to get my post count up xD
Right, because that's a lot easier than just copypasting "+1". Gawd, you can't even raise postcount right.
and no, i'm not taking this seriously at all, i had a long day, and making people who take these fights way too seriously look like asshats is my favorite hobby
Oh yeah, going on for five pages about how I'm an idiot and how you're going to attack GZF really shows how you don't care! Mmm-hhmm I totally believe that. Don't you Zeph?
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 07:52 PM
sooooooooooo much more fun when you've worked from 9am to 10pm
Damn. Well I'd better go wake up my girlfriend and remind myself I still have a life. And no, I'm not implying anything by that to anyone else here.
_Zephyre_
02-02-2008, 07:53 PM
yay for failure?
the only reason i'm posting here is to get my post count up xD
and no, i'm not taking this seriously at all, i had a long day, and making people who take these fights way too seriously look like asshats is my favorite hobby :p
Explain the failure, pl0x.
Because as far as I can see, you're just avoiding addressing my points, and then make it look like you're enjoying yourself by making people appear to make fools of themselves whole supposedly not caring - something at this point only from your perspective alone - in what is ostensibly an attempt to look better in the face of whoever's viewing.
because your face looks like a bung-hole with eyes :p
Second case in point.
Do you want me to prepare cake for you?
Dibs to GLaDOS. Because it's so much more fun during the baking, before the cake.
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 07:54 PM
because your face looks like a bung-hole with eyes
Well, you look like a -
Um...
Er...
Mudkip.
More power to you mate. I should take a leaf out of your book next time someone starts an argument with me. It'd probably end up being a lot more entertaining for everyone.
I see Kiedo's started a trend...
Damn. Well I'd better go wake up my girlfriend and remind myself I still have a life.
Say hi to her for me.
And no, I'm not implying anything by that to anyone else here.
I SEE THRU U!!!
EDIT: AND UR CLOTHEZ!!! /fapfapfap
Maelnin
02-02-2008, 07:57 PM
I SEE THRU U!!!
EDIT: AND UR CLOTHEZ!!! /fapfapfap
Hey, that actually made me laugh. XD And I thought we were both a complete loss.
Edit: She ain't waking up, so here I remain.
Edit II: I was giving you a compliment before on making me laugh. Just quit the x-ray vision routine, pervert.
Nosedigger
02-02-2008, 08:01 PM
Hey, that actually made me