Limit levels for Channel Battle

[AmSoHot]

I think there should be a Vcar and level limit for channel battle.

After racing some CB, I found that some crews with a huge members do have advantage on other teams. These crews typically have tons of v9 racers with lv 85+. Therefore in a battle with 8 ppl all in v9 and that level range, it seems that it is impossible to defeat those people. And it doesn't necessarily mean they are better racers either, in some cases just simply that they have started earlier than others so they have more exp, stats and better cars.

So, where is the fun for other racers/crews who have just started and want to participate? Is it still fun to watch your lv40+ ,50+ crews competing in vain with those monstrous lv 90? Therefore I think we should have some limits for CB. Here's my suggestion:

Channel 1,2: since they are the majors one that yield the most benefit to own, these should be for ALL levels and ALL V cars.

Channel 3,4: (the next best thing) the cap level is 90, and only V6 ~V8 cars allowed.

Channel 5,6: the cap level is 80, V5 ~ V8 cars only

Channel 7: the cap level is 70, V7 cars maximum

Channel 8: (for the new comers) the cap level is 61 and V6 cars MAXIMUM.

This way, I think, will be a fair chance and MORE FUN for everyone to compete in CB and encourage everyone in every levels to play/upgrade/buy more (which obviously what ijji wants!)

So what do u think? :)

[RedSerpent55]

I say this is a really good idea, this way everyone can have fun, not just high levels :busted:
Nice job!

[chaos811]

Good Idea...I like it, but if iggi can't even fix the mp3 player, this would be too big of a challenge for them to tackle

I could be wrong, i do like the idea though :)

[NeoShinobi]

How about presetting stats settings for everyone.
Set 200 to each stat in the room, everyone plays with 200 to each stat.
This is a better solution so everyone could play.

[Keras]

Ch 3/4 should be for all lvls too since surely some lvl 90+ dont want to risk their parts each CB.
You can put the other caps just 2 channels down since there are 10 channels and not only 8 ;)
Overall it could be a good idea even though I don`t know how the situation is in CB since I`m never on at that time.

[miyugal]

I think there should be a Vcar and level limit for channel battle.
Channel 1,2: since they are the majors one that yield the most benefit to own, these should be for ALL levels and ALL V cars.

Channel 3,4: (the next best thing) the cap level is 90, and only V6 ~V8 cars allowed.

Channel 5,6: the cap level is 80, V5 ~ V8 cars only

Channel 7: the cap level is 70, V7 cars maximum

Channel 8: (for the new comers) the cap level is 61 and V6 cars MAXIMUM.


I think your restrictions might be a little too tight but this isnt a bad suggestion. But for example Im lvl 60 with a v8 so I dont fit well into your categories for channel 5,6 or 7. I would be up against the same 80 - 90 players as before.

Maybe a better way:

EDIT: lol Keras =3 you said exactly what I was thinking...

1,2 and 3,4: Unrestricted, all lvl all v class
5,6 and 7,8: capped lvl 70 - v8
9,10: capped lvl 60 - v6

Basically if youre 80+ with a v9 youre gonna be in the top channels anyway. And the next step down is talking about a huge portion of players aswell. They need 4 channels as much as 80+ needs 4 channels.

But I htink this is more fair. It still separates the player gap but really the competition will always remain high. The benefit of holding a channel is too good.

How about presetting stats settings for everyone.
Set 200 to each stat in the room, everyone plays with 200 to each stat.
This is a better solution so everyone could play.

NO. Plain and simple. This is a terrible idea. Our cars have stats for a reason and we buy stat parts to compliment our cars and our skills. Are you telling me that I just wasted 200k on parts because you think our stats should just be all even during the race??

I worked HARD to earn enough for those parts. Thats what this game is about.

[Coyote07]

Thats the worst idea ever

[NeoShinobi]

If you raced me with equal stats, you will see how much skill is over stat and how meaningless your car is.

[heart_tama]

Same as Coyote07 on this. It's really not that difficult to reach 71+ with a V9, took me just short of two weeks personally, and I slacked off a hell of a lot.

[fdr11]

Good idea!

[miyugal]

If you raced me with equal stats, you will see how much skill is over stat and how meaningless your car is.

No youre telling me that I might have a chance to beat you WITH my parts.. But I will flat out lose without them. Nice one..but turn the tables around.

[Keras]

If you raced me with equal stats, you will see how much skill is over stat and how meaningless your car is.

To show that you have to race someone with BETTER stats than yours and win ;)

[Wittmann]

It is a good idea if you see the top crews only accept level 61+ players with V8 car, so this says all.

[Torazo]

This is a good idea, but I am going to modify it a bit.



Channel 1 & 2:
No Level Restriction
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 3 & 4:
No Level Restriction
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 5:
Max Level - 91
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 6:
Max Level - 91
Car Class Limit - V8

Channel 7:
Max Level 76
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 8:
Max Level 76
Car Class Limit - V7

Channel 9:
Max Level 61
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 10:
Max Level 61
Car Class Limit - V6

[sdlall]

This is a good idea, but I am going to modify it a bit.



Channel 1 & 2:
No Level Restriction
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 3 & 4:
No Level Restriction
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 5:
Max Level - 91
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 6:
Max Level - 91
Car Class Limit - V8

Channel 7:
Max Level 76
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 8:
Max Level 76
Car Class Limit - V7

Channel 9:
Max Level 61
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 10:
Max Level 61
Car Class Limit - V6




I could agree with this one.

[Morniemacar]

this is still too much advantage for v9 owners, i think only the mayor channels dont have level and car restriction, the other 3 and 4 shold have car class restriction, but no lvl, (i got a v7 and near i got a v9, but should be funny run in my old ironia again) the other channels can have lvl and car clas s restriction but lower than the posted here, the actual lvl restriction you posted are leaving out of competition the low level drivers, might say it could be a lvl 31 restriction for a pair of channels, get to that lvl is easy and most of the newbies dont have to fight much for getting a fair competition

[Sulvoren]

this is still too much advantage for v9 owners, i think only the mayor channels dont have level and car restriction, the other 3 and 4 shold have car class restriction, but no lvl, (i got a v7 and near i got a v9, but should be funny run in my old ironia again) the other channels can have lvl and car clas s restriction but lower than the posted here, the actual lvl restriction you posted are leaving out of competition the low level drivers, might say it could be a lvl 31 restriction for a pair of channels, get to that lvl is easy and most of the newbies dont have to fight much for getting a fair competition

That is far too restricted. Forcing most of the crews in the game to fight for the same channel... Quite lame if you ask me. Most people can get a V6 within a week. Another week and they might already be at the V8 Car list...

In my opinion, it would be best to leave it close to the way it is currently...

[Cookies!]

Channel 1 & 2:
No Level Restriction
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 3 & 4:
No Level Restriction
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 5:
Max Level - 91
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 6:
Max Level - 91
Car Class Limit - V8

Channel 7:
Max Level 76
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 8:
Max Level 76
Car Class Limit - V7

Channel 9:
Max Level 61
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 10:
Max Level 61
Car Class Limit - V6

I couldnt agree with this one.
Having a level limit in CB is plain dumb. Sorry.

V limit is good.

[id0ru]

I could probably go with Torazos list.

-original poster
But think about it. The number of players in the 90s is growing all the time.
You would have only 2 channels for players with V9s or lvl90+ That means
There would be 2 maybe 3 crews (we all know which) who would take those
channels week after week. Making those crews with less skilled players no
channels they could actually win. At the moment the CBs are won by the
strongest or most skilled crews. Which to me reflects what CB is all about.

Torazos list is more of a compromise which better suits it to be honest.
It gives newer players (or those with little time to grind lvls) a chance to compete.

[Sulvoren]

If there were 20 channels, then this could easily be implemented... Channels 1-10 stay as they are... Channels 11-20 have limitations... In my opinion, they need more channels for this to work out.

[Dazrix]

Disagree completely.

There shouldn't be restrictions at all. If you're not strong enough to win.. then you should just follow those that are, and race the other crews lower members, and not aim for coming first in the channel Battle.

I'm a V6 driver, not even level 50 yet. Never competed in a channel battle. Because I don't believe that I'd be capable of winning. And because of that, I don't try. I expect to see all the V9 cars come out for those matches, and all the high level parts. Why go to a gun fight with only knives, then scream 'ahrg! I can't get close enough to stab you! Not fair!'

Save up your moneys and buy a gun.. right?

Obviously in this circumstance, you'll save up your mitto and raise your level to buy a faster car. You'll either do your HUV chases or you'll continue to save your money to buy better parts. Is really not necessary to put restrictions on these channels.

Hate to make reference, but in the Anime series, 'Initial D' did the ONE crew not want to take over ALL of Kanto, Akagi and Guma? They wanted to take over the lot. That is, they wanted to own all the channels available. They weren't gonna use there worste drivers to do it.

So don't put up any restrictions.

[chaos811]

Well at this rate, there will only be like 3 crews sooner or later that will own cb...if the same crews keep taking over, they are just getting stronger weekly, competitive crews will soon give up, leaving good players going to the top crews...soon we will see crews like synergy with 3-4 channels...which is all good if there were certain restrictions like ppl are suggesting.

Dc will get very boring soon without changes

[S1LV3R_W0LF]

They should put GM's spectating Battle Channels. To avoid "Big Pro" crews winning not only becouse of their cars, but becouse of Hacks that they call lag.

Yah thats right, evryone get lag i also get it with so many ppl racing and spectating ... but i don't fly all over, and go trough walls. Spectate some CH. B. and you will understand what I say.

Oh and by the way, there was a Battle last Friday where our crew was gonna win for sure. But for some reason our 4 players leading ... suddendly got passed by "ghosts" that ended the race with a countdown of 3 seconds ... everyone saw it, but what could we do if IJJI ignores this? And they keep channels and win over and over?

Put GM's spectating, and DO SOMETHING. I'm not afraid of lvl 90's in their V9's ... I just want fair race and by the way, people that go into game with extreme lag shouldn't be aloud to play.

I played games that if I had a max lag of something I wouldn't be aloud to play, and it was heavier then this one and I never had lag with 2MB connection. This game is not "heavy" and some drivers look like pinball balls.

So you can be driving in first place and you get a hit from a side flying car and you crash and need repair. So what kind of race is this? Antigravity space ships like wipeout?

[Tbee]

High level people don't have missions or any other fun besides CB...

[chaos811]

They should put GM's spectating Battle Channels. To avoid "Big Pro" crews winning not only becouse of their cars, but becouse of Hacks that they call lag.

Yah thats right, evryone get lag i also get it with so many ppl racing and spectating ... but i don't fly all over, and go trough walls. Spectate some CH. B. and you will understand what I say.

Oh and by the way, there was a Battle last Friday where our crew was gonna win for sure. But for some reason our 4 players leading ... suddendly got passed by "ghosts" that ended the race with a countdown of 3 seconds ... everyone saw it, but what could we do if IJJI ignores this? And they keep channels and win over and over?

Put GM's spectating, and DO SOMETHING. I'm not afraid of lvl 90's in their V9's ... I just want fair race and by the way, people that go into game with extreme lag shouldn't be aloud to play.

I played games that if I had a max lag of something I wouldn't be aloud to play, and it was heavier then this one and I never had lag with 2MB connection. This game is not "heavy" and some drivers look like pinball balls.

So you can be driving in first place and you get a hit from a side flying car and you crash and need repair. So what kind of race is this? Antigravity space ships like wipeout?



yea that was total bs....we had beat partyvan for channel 4 and then some bs happened...I really hate to think it was ppl cheating, but lag didn't explain what happended there...How is there only a 3 second countdown?? I was around the last corner, 1st place finished, then it counted down 3 seconds, NOT 10, wtf??? .Maybe they should limit spectators to crew only spectating, I know that causes lag as well, but yea, with the money iggi is making...once a week get the GM's on to watch it for an hour, cuz we got robbed by the supposed "lag"...ya rite

[Dazrix]

actually.. Silver, you're wrong...

1) The 3 second count down to you, was his full 10 seconds, but his lag probably only stopped lagging after the 7th second of the countdown, MEANING YOU ONLY HAVE 3 SECONDS LEFT. Which would explain what happened, it meant that because he lagged, he was able to compete freely without having other players barge him, and maneouvre around them. So he has an advantage there. HOWEVER, he would also lose the power ups at check points.

Thats my theory on that.. which ties into my second point..

2) Drift City is a super heavy bandwidth eating game. You've probably not realised it though because your download limit (assuming you have one) doesn't take into account the upload useage. MY bandwidth restrictions I have to monitor severly due to my connection being Go Anywhere, Wireless.. My limit is effected by both download and upload. And DC has more download/upload then any other game i play, it surpasses that of Gunz and BF 2 COMBINED if I was to play them both online at the same time for as long as I was playing Drift City.

Drift City may be pretty low in terms of appearances and bandwidth requirements, but if you hang out in the Dome or somewhere, watch your bandwidth just get blocked off with all the game information it's got to recieve and set back out to all the players in the dome.

About those games that disallow you to play if you have massive lag.. This game has A server... that server being for things like checkpoints and what not, and missions, which runs all smoothly, but I don't believe the data your computer is sending and recieving about other players is being transmitted from the server, but instead from the other players computers themselves. Otherwise DC has seriously BAD Bandwidth problems. Therefor, if it had to boot every player that had massive lag, no one would be able to play, because everyone would have a bad latency to someone else.

[Kengan]

screw level limits, their's already enuff level limitting at battle zone
cb is to prove which crews are the best racers, and best racers include not only skills but also better cars
if you played for a few weeks and ur driving v6 and ur racing someone else who played half a year with v9 but is also driving a v6, what are the chances u'll win? most likely the player with more experience with the tracks will know the turns better than you do, this idea=fail

[heart_tama]

Look at it this way, it'd be to ijji's advantage to leave it as is.

Having it as it is now forces the stronger (winners of CB) to become stronger through the mito they win in CB, and leaves the weaker players (the ones that lost) forced to play longer hours, and buy gcoin items in order to beef up their cars to even stand a slight chance at winning.

It also forces lower level players to play longer hours as is, just by not being able to simply own a V9. Along with this, the higher level players have higher stats just by levels. Someone 10 levels ahead, will have 40 more points. That's quite a bit of difference.

[lcorndogl]

so therefore, I'm level 91, so the only chance i get is to risk losing my parts?

disagree totally, channels are for crews that work hard for them, why should a crew of low levels come and get one easier?

They all generate the same amount of income (ish), so they should all have the same requirements: NONE!

[chaos811]

I think spectators are the key to cb lag....all battlezone is fine for me every day, but whenever cb comes, i lag horribly....possibly 32 spectators??? Please limit only crew to spectate battles and even that should have a limit, like 5 crew members each side, 10 max...maybe give that a shot.

And I wouldn't say make channel 1-2 high lvls only...I would say make ch 7,8,9,10 for lvl's 80 and under or v8 only....I don't think there should be two restrictions on it...make ch1-6 open to whoever, kinda like the free arena, but make channels 7-10 either v8 limit or lvl 80 and under limit....a high lvl is a v9 is very hard for players, especially big crew players who won several channels. That isn't too many of a restrictions.

and low level crews wouldn't get it easy, it would still be a battle, just as there are about 5-10(tops) big crews, there are a lot more smaller competitive ones. Maybe even give those weaker channels less income.

This thread is a waste though, iggi probally won't do shhh about it.

[Silent83PL]

NO restrictions!!! :upset:

If we have crew good enough to get 4 channels or more why shouldn't we?! Channel battle is all to prove which crew is the best (at all). Why should we let low lvls to get them just like that.
BTW with such restricions there would be 10 or more crews waiting for their turn (some of them probably woudn't even get a chance to fight:grrr: ).

[chaos811]

NO restrictions!!! :upset:

If we have crew good enough to get 4 channels or more why shouldn't we?! Channel battle is all to prove which crew is the best (at all). Why should we let low lvls to get them just like that.
BTW with such restricions there would be 10 or more crews waiting for their turn (some of them probably woudn't even get a chance to fight:grrr: ).

if one crew continues to take over more channels, they will just get stronger and stronger, would be no chance for any other crews to catch up. There would be a lot less crews, players and battlezone racers...dc will be full with one or two strong crews and a bunch of patrollers and huv-ers. Only hope at some point is that one of the crews break up. It is too unbalanced right now

How about instead of V and lvl restrictions, a total point restrictions...you can be a lvl 90+ with a v9 but on channels 7-10, you can only have say 1500 total points(example)....this way any high powered parts would have to be reduced or keep the parts and go V8, could be a nice mix-up and give more options to play around with.

[Silent83PL]

One more thing about hacking -all laggers are hackers -rofl i crawling from laughther.

I played many games and my ping is usually 50ms, but here it can be even 3sec glitch on gates (on 8vs8 battles). I have high end PC and 6MBps/6MBps DSL so it isn't foult of my computer.

If u made GM's kick all lagers there will be like 25% ppl playing in CHB.
Lags are part of every game and u have to get used to it or quit:=p:

SRRY FOR MY ENGLISH

[chaos811]

lag can be fixed. with the increasing amount of gcoin users, iggi should do something....it gets worse with each patch. Another suggestion...any users with high ping, shouldn't be allow...warrock has a system like that where u make a room and have a ping limit...and i know war rock isn't the only one. But I still think it is spectators causing the lag in cb

[lcorndogl]

if smaller crews only have smaller crews to compete against, that does make it easier for them, and it means big crews only have big crews to race, making it harder for them

[Dazrix]

This is stupid.. Guys shut up..

Channel battle is about SKILL. But how many of you have won a race AND KNOW you've won because the person infront got 'nothing' at the last checkpoint and you got a full boost?

Channel battles should eliminate gates, and just leave it as is. Perhaps have the option of NO traffic.

Thats skill.

[Daigotsu]

yea that was total bs....we had beat partyvan for channel 4 and then some bs happened...I really hate to think it was ppl cheating, but lag didn't explain what happended there...How is there only a 3 second countdown?? I was around the last corner, 1st place finished, then it counted down 3 seconds, NOT 10, wtf??? .Maybe they should limit spectators to crew only spectating, I know that causes lag as well, but yea, with the money iggi is making...once a week get the GM's on to watch it for an hour, cuz we got robbed by the supposed "lag"...ya rite

you didn't "beat" us at all. if anything it was YOUR lag that hurt us in points, as the majority of your crew was over 1.2 miles away from the finish line where as all of our crew but one was in the 200-800 feet range. You also didn't "beat" us because that BECAUSE THAT WAS OUR FIRST MAP. Partyvan has successfully defended a channel for every single CB now, holding four for all but one week against almost every major crew in the game. I can also post screens of the other week your crew has come to our channel and ALSO failed with your fastest time being 2:31. Just seriously, stop the insults while you can, Partyvan is skilled racers with a good bulk of us 80+ and practically everyone on our defense has a v9 and great parts to boot. And as SilverWorlf states in your crew recruting thread "If you have the guts join us, if you expecting to enter an already huge team with channels ... better keep looking." I'm serious about posting screens, I know I have atleast two weeks worth to prove my point.

The countdown took the correct amount of time, it's just the fact that IJJI didn't make the game for the kind of latency most players have in conjunction with all the spectator and other players which makes channel battle truly unbearable. I myself hit 2.6-2.7k connection, which IS fast enough for a 16 player race so that I don't lag even when in a full 16 player room of brazil, yet during cb's I start to feel a slight kick in response time (mostly in part to what i'm assuming is spectators).

And I remember a certain GM watching our channel for a good portion of not this week, but last, and obviously a gm would know what constitutes a "hack" and what is merely the server lag.

One race we had defending this week the entire other team turbolaunched past the first corner before the countdown for the start of the race even finished, and because of such errors in the game we were only just able to defend our first map successfully. It's CB, it's in testing, lag and weird things do happen, and OBVIOUSLY the gm's know what is going on and would take appropriate action as they already have for some incidents.

Back to the topic at hand: No, there should be no limits, The whole point of cb IS for the best crews to test their mettle. Yes, it may be a small portion of crews who are capable to compete/win, well, then it's your goal to attempt to level up to get there. Race in the battlezone more, and hope one of these crews who is winning cb notices you and would like to recruit you. If not and you decide you must have your own crew, well then you shouldn't complain about not having the levels or items, because the crews that do have the levels/items/skill WORKED for it. If you just do the same, take your time to get better, then you should be able to compete in the big leagues. It's that simple.

[chaos811]

you didn't "beat" us at all. if anything it was YOUR lag that hurt us in points, as the majority of your crew was over 1.2 miles away from the finish line where as all of our crew but one was in the 200-800 feet range. You also didn't "beat" us because that BECAUSE THAT WAS OUR FIRST MAP. Partyvan has successfully defended a channel for every single CB now, holding four for all but one week against almost every major crew in the game. I can also post screens of the other week your crew has come to our channel and ALSO failed with your fastest time being 2:31. Just seriously, stop the insults while you can, Partyvan is skilled racers with a good bulk of us 80+ and practically everyone on our defense has a v9 and great parts to boot. And as SilverWorlf states in your crew recruting thread "If you have the guts join us, if you expecting to enter an already huge team with channels ... better keep looking." I'm serious about posting screens, I know I have atleast two weeks worth to prove my point.

The countdown took the correct amount of time, it's just the fact that IJJI didn't make the game for the kind of latency most players have in conjunction with all the spectator and other players which makes channel battle truly unbearable. I myself hit 2.6-2.7k connection, which IS fast enough for a 16 player race so that I don't lag even when in a full 16 player room of brazil, yet during cb's I start to feel a slight kick in response time (mostly in part to what i'm assuming is spectators).

And I remember a certain GM watching our channel for a good portion of not this week, but last, and obviously a gm would know what constitutes a "hack" and what is merely the server lag.

One race we had defending this week the entire other team turbolaunched past the first corner before the countdown for the start of the race even finished, and because of such errors in the game we were only just able to defend our first map successfully. It's CB, it's in testing, lag and weird things do happen, and OBVIOUSLY the gm's know what is going on and would take appropriate action as they already have for some incidents.


Yes u were right it was on the first attack, so yes, we didn't get robbed for the channel, but i'm saying all of our crew had like 3-8 on lock, I was on that last turn at the gate, up the block from the line, then 3 second countdown and every1 passed me, not physically, just on the scoreboard. Whatever, I'm passed that, this isn't even the thread for that, my mistake.


Back to the topic at hand: No, there should be no limits, The whole point of cb IS for the best crews to test their mettle. Yes, it may be a small portion of crews who are capable to compete/win, well, then it's your goal to attempt to level up to get there. Race in the battlezone more, and hope one of these crews who is winning cb notices you and would like to recruit you. If not and you decide you must have your own crew, well then you shouldn't complain about not having the levels or items, because the crews that do have the levels/items/skill WORKED for it. If you just do the same, take your time to get better, then you should be able to compete in the big leagues. It's that simple.


I know its about skill, but also total points. When you have two crews, say crash between 1-5 times the entire race, your gonna tell me having 1600+ point crews don't have the edge? Believe me, i'm in battlezone pretty much daily and not matter how hard i try to level, save up to work for parts, these crews can take vactions, earn double, and still be stronger for the next cb. That is why they should have a few channels with some restrictions, for other crews growth...I mean, give them less mitos for the channel, but it would realistically be the only hope otherwise for a smaller grew to win. I'm sure if i tried, i and majority of my crew can quality for a bigger crew, but to each his own.

[--MaFia-FoX-]

Its Not Logical though :confused:

[SentrexTheSwift]

Nope. Don't support the idea at all.

Channels are meant for the best DC Crews/Drivers, if a nub wants to own a channel, he has to become pro.

And if he doesn't have the skill, thats too damn bad. >w<

Rules of the road, hunny. :3

[Daigotsu]

I know its about skill, but also total points. When you have two crews, say crash between 1-5 times the entire race, your gonna tell me having 1600+ point crews don't have the edge? Believe me, i'm in battlezone pretty much daily and not matter how hard i try to level, save up to work for parts, these crews can take vactions, earn double, and still be stronger for the next cb. That is why they should have a few channels with some restrictions, for other crews growth...I mean, give them less mitos for the channel, but it would realistically be the only hope otherwise for a smaller grew to win. I'm sure if i tried, i and majority of my crew can quality for a bigger crew, but to each his own.

I really only notice a difference in points being a huge factor when it comes to the higher levels, namely 90+ when those players have access to a good portion of level 80 parts, and from combos/huv/time spent playing should have accumulated quite the small fortune. The reason WHY those crews can take vacations is because they've worked hard and put a lot of time and effort into the game. And trust me, when you get high enough it's kinda hard to magically inrease your points. Sometimes debating which parts to use and enhancer can be quite the struggle, there's no much room for improvement! Also, that's the reasons gates are in the game, someone can have an advantage in points on you, but one lucky drift city can often turn the tide.

Also, the game will never be completely consisting of a few crews, incase you haven't noticed, most of the crews winning channels have under 40 people in their roster, and on top of that just because their roster SAYS 40, most of the time they have much much less (especially the actually time of CB) Also, the bulk of these crews arn't recruiting (that much anyway)

So if you do want to win channels, it's going to take a lot of work and dedication. I know a lot of the players who are in the winning crews have been playing since atleast open beta started. I know a lot of crews do want to just jump in and start winning channels, but then it's not fair to the people who HAVE put in months of love and care into their car and parts, as there are a lot of us now. I remember when superstar arena was EMPTY. I bought a v9 ruby the day the engine upgrades were released and never had anyone to race with (no rooms at all) now there's always some action going on. Other than that, there's nothing else for us higher level players to do. Channel Battle is really the only exciting part of our week.

further more, pulled directly from the channel battle description first posted on the forums: "At the end of the event period, the most dominant crew Captures the Channel."

[S1LV3R_W0LF]

The funny thing here is that High levels, in Top crews with channels ... disagree with the idea.

If its about SKILL, why don't you lvl 90+ race with a restriction of V6, V7, V8???

If you have so much skill what you afraid of?

NO ONE WILL EVER get TOP CREW chans. Those crew have more andmore money, more and more enhanced parts, so its like getting a race of ferraris against bycicles.

I can beat a lot of V9's lvl 90+ with my V8 ... even some of the known has "PROS" ... althought in CB the lag is huge so I can't even drive, they crash and they recover faster, the problem here is that even if i'm first it doesn't matter. They will get all the places after.

So YAH ... IT'S VERY FAIR ... for High LEVELS.

It will be even more fun whan game comes out, and IJJI keep accounts.

Newcomers will love to race against these "Titans"...

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About the Partyvan situation, ye sthat was very funny ... I was 2nd and Skarabee was 1st, then i saw NOTHING passing me and finishing the race. And at end we were miles away from them. But look carefully and you can see that SOMEONE FROM PARTYVAN actually was stunned with the same, look at what DAVE said about it.

http://img178.imagevenue.com/loc450/th_10649_Partyvan_Hack_122_450lo.jpg (http://img178.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=10649_Partyvan_Hack_122_450lo.jpg)

[madseth]

good but to be lv 75+

[TatharNuar]

I say this is a really good idea, this way everyone can have fun, not just high levels :busted:
Nice job!

I say this is a really bad idea. Fewer crews will be able to participate if their CB teams are broken up by level.

[chaos811]

Put it like this....if someone new comes and starts today, do you ever think realisitically he would catch up to any active lvl 70+ right now?? Now add that high lvl getting free mitos, PEOPLE WILL GIVE UP SOONER OR LATER. There has to be an option for new player growth or this game will not last. Soon enough it will be filled with all old heads, soon as they leave...population will be like 100-300 a day. I have seen many ppl quit and give up after racing in cb, cuz for them it is beyond impossible. Having 4 channels open to lower lvl cars...or i like the total points restriction....will still require skill. There are A LOT of lvl 50+ SKILLED drivers, but get smoked by the leader who has at least 400+ total points on his car.

[Sulvoren]

Put it like this....if someone new comes and starts today, do you ever think realisitically he would catch up to any active lvl 70+ right now?? Now add that high lvl getting free mitos, PEOPLE WILL GIVE UP SOONER OR LATER. There has to be an option for new player growth or this game will not last. Soon enough it will be filled with all old heads, soon as they leave...population will be like 100-300 a day. I have seen many ppl quit and give up after racing in cb, cuz for them it is beyond impossible. Having 4 channels open to lower lvl cars...or i like the total points restriction....will still require skill. There are A LOT of lvl 50+ SKILLED drivers, but get smoked by the leader who has at least 400+ total points on his car.

That's why we need 20 channels and my way in doing things.



Channel 1 & 2:
No Level Restriction
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 3 & 4:
No Level Restriction
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 5:
No Level Resriction
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 6:
No Level Restriction
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 7:
No Level Restriction
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 8:
No Level Restriction
Car Class Limit - V8

Channel 9:
No Level Restriction
Car Class Limit - V7

Channel 10:
No Level Restriction
Car Class Limit - V6



And For Channels 11-20



Channel 11 & 12:
Max Level - 91
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 13 & 14:
Max Level - 81
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 15:
Max Level - 71
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 16:
Max Level - 71
Car Class Limit - V8

Channel 17:
Max Level - 61
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 18:
Max Level - 61
Car Class Limit - V7

Channel 19:
Max Level - 51
No Car Class Restriction

Channel 20:
Max Level - 51
Car Class Limit - V6



An Alternative to Car Class and Level Restrictions is a Max Point Restriction. If your total points for your stats is higher than the Max Restriction, then you cannot race in the selected channel.

Channel 11-20 Could Look Like This:

Channel 11 & 12:
Max Point Restriction = 1400

Channel 13 & 14:
Max Point Restriction = 1300

Channel 15 & 16:
Max Point Restriction = 1200

Channel 17 & 18:
Max Point Restriction = 1100

Channel 19 & 20:
Max Point Restriction = 1000

Notice how channels 1 through 10 practically stay the same.

[Ferrariboi92]

this is a very good idea. considering we'd have to own a v9 and be over lvl 80 if we want to get a channel currently. but if the limits were enforced. it'd make our lives alot easier.

[BesiX]

i don't care about lvl restriction... imo the only thing ijji should reinforce, is a ping limit. this cb now was AGAIN a lagfest to the fullest. keep the ping surpressors out of the cb and let ppl race based on SKILL, not luck at gates with ping surpression.

[GenesisXXX]

Yes a agree this should be enforced....too many igh lvls maing low lvls suffer.

[jkw0076]

that is a bad idea crews are crews and if they want to challenge even if their level 20 you race them

[Sulvoren]

that is a bad idea crews are crews and if they want to challenge even if their level 20 you race them

This idea is to draw new players to the game. It is far from being a bad idea.

Why do you think I almost completely left channels 1 through 10 alone?

[akmandem69]

To be honest, a level and points restriction would make the battles very boring....

[Sulvoren]

To be honest, a level and points restriction would make the battles very boring....

Only on the restricted ones yes. Leave channels 11-20 to the new players... XD

In my opinion, this idea is to gather new players to the game without hindering, or changing what the old players have done or will be doing..

[S1LV3R_W0LF]

Boring? For who?

Yah TOP Crews with all V9 and lvl 80+ against V7's with 40 lvls below ... yah thats the way to race in a fun way, or in another words, the way TO GARANTEE you allways win.

That sounds like loser talk to me. Are lvl 90+ afraid to use a V8 against lvl 80- ?

So that means is not a matter of skill, but a matter of engine isn't it?