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GM_SKiNG
03-22-2007, 03:42 AM
[Lag Shot/Death] = This is when a player appears as if he/she was shot or killed through a solid object or when it appears as if you are shooting an opponent but the opponent fails to lose health.
We currently can not do much about this issue since we have many users playing from around the world. A user's gaming experience will vary from user to user depending on the user's location, connection and distance to the server.
Our server currently resides in California and future plans for an additional server in the East Coast may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front.
biff10426
03-22-2007, 11:42 AM
[Lag Shot/Death] = This is when a player appears as if he/she was shot or killed through a solid object or when it appears as if you are shooting an opponent but the opponent fails to lose health.
We currently can not do much about this issue since we have many users playing from around the world. A user's gaming experience will vary from user to user depending on the user's location, connection and distance to the server.
Our server currently resides in California and future plans for an additional server in the East Coast may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front.
Being a long time player of CS maybe I can go into this more.
Situations above happen in almost any multiplayer FPS, just seems like it happens more in Soldier Front. Lag compensation, or lack therefore, is the main culprit. Lets try and break this stuff down, you have player A and player B on opposite teams. I'll go through this each second.
00:01 player A is hiding behind a crate and player B is running down a corridor in A's direction.
00:02 player A pops out from behind his crate, sees player B and quickly hides back behind the crate again. Player B doesn't see player A do this because of his 'lag'
00:03 Because player B is 'lagging' maybe because of a bad connection or his geographical location, AT THIS TIME, player B NOW sees player A pop out from behind his crate, and promptly headshots him.
00:04 Player A dies behind his crate even though he can't see B and B can't see him, and is frustrated.
Lag compensation in FPS's make it so you don't have to 'lead' your targets because they or YOU are lagging. You can generally aim at their MODEL and hit them. This compensation basically means: If you see somebody, put them in the crosshairs and shoot at them, the shot will register, regardless if the receiving player thinks he's behind a wall or other solid object at the time. This is because the 'laggy' player is receiving packets a few miliseconds behind everyone else.
Soldier front, by the looks of it, is a P2P(peer to peer) game, much like Gunz or Halo is, where everyone connects to each other rather then everybody connecting to a server. If this game was switched from P2P to server based, you would probably see a drastic drop in these 'lag kills', but I wouldn't count in Ijji doing so, as maintaining a server for a game costs quite a bit of money, and this is a free to play game.
Now my fingers are cramped.
jum0ng
03-22-2007, 05:27 PM
I would love to see an east coast server so that I can have killer latency. Also just a suggestion. I think that there should be blocks on those players outside North America and try to play the US-Sf.
I know espeically when i play late at night, i see many players from europe and even china on playing and lagging the server up like crazy.
StarSkyll
03-22-2007, 07:16 PM
Kinda sucks for the people who live in or around California. I live in Arizona and people kill me easily while it takes twice more ammo to take them down.
FinalFantasy
03-22-2007, 07:26 PM
Well, I live in California, and I dont see this problem too much. Although I do see when they lag a bit on one spot, then "supposedly" teleport to another spot. I don't whether that's just me, though...
~MS-13
SoldierFront
03-22-2007, 07:52 PM
I would love a server on the east coast. I lag quite a bit in the first round right now.
saacchhuu
03-22-2007, 07:57 PM
i am a the bigg lagger
FinalFantasy
03-22-2007, 07:58 PM
Seeing your response, I can full agree with your comment. Too bad I dont know where you're going with that >_>
~MS-13
[SFS]Soldier
03-22-2007, 08:11 PM
[Lag Shot/Death] = This is when a player appears as if he/she was shot or killed through a solid object or when it appears as if you are shooting an opponent but the opponent fails to lose health.
We currently can not do much about this issue since we have many users playing from around the world. A user's gaming experience will vary from user to user depending on the user's location, connection and distance to the server.
Our server currently resides in California and future plans for an additional server in the East Coast may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front.
ya i been having that lately i killed 6 people with 7hp idk if it was lag or skills lol
bonddude
03-22-2007, 11:18 PM
Eh, I live in California and im liven the life with no lag whatsoever... Yet sometimes at rare occasions I lag and end up warping somewhere else or also lag killed, but at rare occasions...
Rubedo
03-23-2007, 09:28 AM
CA baby! 24 Ping TOPS.
Reesey
03-28-2007, 08:04 PM
Since this is annoucned no more people saying "hacker" to other people if they get lagged killed.
Captain
03-29-2007, 03:36 PM
lol
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xX[sniper4life]Xx
03-29-2007, 03:46 PM
can some one plz help me.. i lag in SF like i flash different pics... will getting more RAM stop my lag?
Omaso
03-29-2007, 03:56 PM
Yeah this bug irritates me. I would just shoot over and over again and they wouldn't lose ANY health and then they shoot me once and I die... god I hate that.
EliteKiller-
03-29-2007, 08:15 PM
Well I think it's really your computer that is lagging and also when I play i don't lag, but like others lag so then for some reason they effect me o.O
Epidemic
03-29-2007, 10:54 PM
This is not cool >.> it happens tho, I guess.
Thanks for helping guys.
~Epi
z1ggy
04-02-2007, 01:19 PM
I live on the East Coast, Not too bad. hehe thank god for my new computer :D
B[o]R3d
04-02-2007, 05:05 PM
its not a bug that makes u lag, its your own computer, so dont play if u lag that much
for 1 it ruins other peoples gameplay and 2 your just wasting your time
just get a better computer and u will be fine, dont blame it on a bug that u think makes u lag
kazoo009
04-03-2007, 03:18 PM
[Lag Shot/Death] = This is when a player appears as if he/she was shot or killed through a solid object or when it appears as if you are shooting an opponent but the opponent fails to lose health.
We currently can not do much about this issue since we have many users playing from around the world. A user's gaming experience will vary from user to user depending on the user's location, connection and distance to the server.
Our server currently resides in California and future plans for an additional server in the East Coast may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front.
first of all i suggest u set up servers in indiana and other midwest citys kind of around the east coast-midwest "borders" so you can kinda support midwestern and eastern
anyways lag shot, not really a big problem,its just that they shot you and its a problem with realizim,thats all people wanna die the place they get shot for the real feel of it, but there are more issues to fix,like glitches i think thats why you are shutting down to fix problem, now glitches are caused by bad running computers, therefore increasing the minumum requirments will also help lag shot and glitches become more rare i have tried glitching the way people say to but my computer is too good srry for trying but i proved somethiung there
Mexhomie
04-03-2007, 03:57 PM
i call it prostitution
i hope my sig works cuz sumtimes it puit another pic i neva put!
Soul_Star (BbqChips)
04-03-2007, 03:58 PM
i saw a guy have 2 ping for a sec
DarkBranx
04-04-2007, 02:57 PM
Figures why lag so badly im all the way in New York
Deathcrow
04-04-2007, 04:34 PM
yay for california boi!!!
wwepatriot
04-04-2007, 04:59 PM
more GM's and whatnots speaking about something they got no idea about.
Biff pretty much made everyone who made SF look stupid.
freddomcfrog
04-05-2007, 04:40 PM
I live in Australia, yet only experience lag in the first round...
sasi94_p90s
04-05-2007, 06:56 PM
Figures why lag so badly im all the way in New York
loll nah dont do dat cuz my freinds r mostly playing from ny and dey dont lagg one bit soo check urslf
sasi94_p90s
04-05-2007, 06:57 PM
[Lag Shot/Death] = This is when a player appears as if he/she was shot or killed through a solid object or when it appears as if you are shooting an opponent but the opponent fails to lose health.
We currently can not do much about this issue since we have many users playing from around the world. A user's gaming experience will vary from user to user depending on the user's location, connection and distance to the server.
Our server currently resides in California and future plans for an additional server in the East Coast may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front.
yeah sf rocks new server new server new server come on peps scream it with me new server
Epidemic
04-05-2007, 10:34 PM
loll nah dont do dat cuz my freinds r mostly playing from ny and dey dont lagg one bit soo check urslf
yeah sf rocks new server new server new server come on peps scream it with me new server
Love your double post.
Nice Spam.
Mmm Good for anything else?
~Epi
B[o]R3d
04-05-2007, 10:51 PM
lol epidemic is funny ^^
StayPhrosty
04-05-2007, 11:04 PM
I live in Canada and I see it a little bit. I have died after hiding because of lag but it dosent bother me that much. What bothers me is when i'm sniping and the enemy is standing behind a box. He can shoot me and I can shot him, but when I shoot DIRECTLY at his model (usually his head), and even when I shoot all around him, I just dont hit him. It may be because fo lag, or it may be I have amasingly horrible aim. But i think it is a problem with the crate heights (especially shanhai).
B[o]R3d
04-05-2007, 11:07 PM
nope... its your aim xD
practice some more ^^
johnnyrotten
04-10-2007, 09:24 AM
there are ppl in this game from here in the states who i see with a steady 500ms. i believe some are doing this on purpose to kill me with lag. Its just funny not too upsetting.
the best is the a-hole's who spawn on the sub in map shanghai, now that is upsetting to see such a nice map go to holy **** because of this spawn hack.
EVERYONE JUST be thankful we dont have an aimbot or radar hack in this game. Thats why i dont play farcry anymore.:clap: :king: :clap:
Beachy
04-10-2007, 09:42 AM
there are aimbots for thiis game arent there? because ive heard people talking about them in the game.
Alisha
04-10-2007, 10:00 AM
to reduce the lag they need different servers
like an europian server for us euros :)
IOWNU
04-16-2007, 03:50 PM
there is no aimbot, those ppl who talk bout it are just noobs that keep getting owned by snipers.
their is no doubt that an East Coast server should happen i think i am going to email one of the GM's and talk about this happening. Now with the introduction of clans we have to start making this game as accurate as we can as competition starts happening more and more.
BigBossBunny
04-20-2007, 05:47 PM
[Lag Shot/Death] = This is when a player appears as if he/she was shot or killed through a solid object or when it appears as if you are shooting an opponent but the opponent fails to lose health.
We currently can not do much about this issue since we have many users playing from around the world. A user's gaming experience will vary from user to user depending on the user's location, connection and distance to the server.
Our server currently resides in California and future plans for an additional server in the East Coast may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front.
i live in East coast, near Gameservers.com servers, maybe open up opportunity here man, more jobs will be better , even if its cheap :P i live 15 minutes away from mahhatan and lotz of offices here, let me know any info u want :D
P.S i am looking for work too :D
shahid207
04-24-2007, 12:00 PM
Dont say that! I live in israel and i love sf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
please allow players from other countries to stay in sf
firenoodles
05-04-2007, 03:51 AM
I will post in this topic it is not only there location and distance from the server it is also there cpu and gpu that makes them lagg. The programmers that work on this game should go play other fps games usually if you lagg you die this game if you lagg you can get extra shots in behind walls and everything.
//DEATH
05-04-2007, 04:59 AM
IP. Ban other areas outside the US. It needs to be done for obvious reasons, also an east coast server would near eliminate these problems. Even a central server would..
Suinodrak
05-04-2007, 08:54 AM
Agreed, at the very least non-english speaking countries. And any country that already has their own version of SF. An east coast server if one were to open, would have playable pings to the UK at least.
firenoodles
05-04-2007, 01:59 PM
Ip ban some countrys would work. Or have a auto kick if your over 200 - 300 ping.
//DEATH
05-05-2007, 11:01 PM
No auto-kick. I suggest a server, I think that would work well.
gregs
05-06-2007, 03:04 AM
im form england so lag is an issue for me. i wish wasnt cuz its a good game.
-purple
05-06-2007, 10:43 AM
Maybe ijji should organize the servers in terms of people's pings (like server 1 ping 1-80 server 2 81-100 etc.)? That idea seems kind of unfair though..:(
Copeforlife
05-09-2007, 10:44 PM
i live in california but for some reason when i point at a 400 pinger with my m4 my crosshairs get huge and i cannot aim for crap.........FIX IT :)
AznSoldier
05-12-2007, 08:38 PM
I live in Cali but i see people from the East Coast and Overseas playing and they always lag shot me. I t gets me really frustrated. I just hope ijji could make more servers..
-BMF-
05-14-2007, 11:13 PM
This is the only game i have played where lag helps you kill people and doesent get you killed cant they somehow make it proper so people like me who dont lag dont have to deal with shooting somone 10 times in the face and doing no damige?
why dont u guys hook up with the severs in korea r something
ryukazama
05-18-2007, 10:35 AM
why do thay make a channel like EUROPE , USA/Canada , Australie . Asia ect.
firenoodles
05-19-2007, 04:06 AM
The easy way to fix this is just auto kick anyone with over 150 - 170 ms ping.
Beachy
05-19-2007, 04:14 AM
The easy way to fix this is just auto kick anyone with over 150 - 170 ms ping.
if they did that half of everyone would be kiked and ijji would lose customers
make a server near the caribbean =D or somewhere close 2 that area
firenoodles
05-20-2007, 01:48 AM
They can go play gunz or something and what customers there are no ijji coin items that i know of yet for soldierfront.
Monochrome¬`
05-20-2007, 05:08 AM
The easy way to fix this is just auto kick anyone with over 150 - 170 ms ping.
My ping fluctuates, because since im a UK player its so far that at some times its only around 100, then some times it shoots up to 300.
:bye: I can play fine on gunz and halo combat evolved, as well as gunbound, but i believe that this has GOT to be fixed because players outside of california, EVEN IF ITS STILL IN THE US, get this lag and it gets very annoying, especially with snipers.
=Time=
05-21-2007, 12:50 AM
[QUOTE=jum0ng;15620]. I think that there should be blocks on those players outside North America and try to play the US-Sf.
[QUOTE]
Your a stinking moron. Australia and Europe are an english speaking country we cant play the asian servers coz we cant understand the language. U cant bann people coz there ms is about 150+ ur just a selfish ************************. Plus we arent on till about 1 am your time, so go to bed you dweeb.
firenoodles
05-21-2007, 06:16 AM
Your a stinking moron. Australia and Europe are an english speaking country we cant play the asian servers coz we cant understand the language. U cant bann people coz there ms is about 150+ ur just a selfish ************************. Plus we arent on till about 1 am your time, so go to bed you dweeb.
Actually I have been playing at 5 - 12 am and most games almost everyone is almost 200+ or 300+ ping. They can either kick them or they fix it which they probly cant fix it.
Usa, Usa... what we need is a server in europe:no: !
you are working to get your pings in usa from 70 to 40 but players from europe have over 200 ping. that is very stupid!
Vash55550
05-25-2007, 01:15 PM
Ijjis game portal is completely based in North America, theres plenty of other portals for people that dont live here. Mabye you could add somthing to the launcher that block you from loging in if you have high ping & a IP address not from NA.
[Mystic]Pyro
05-27-2007, 09:33 AM
High ping should be autokicked. That is all if we are all around 100 - 160 ping or less we wont here lagger no we will hear more idiots yelling get a better computer. So to fix the problem that comes from the autokicking put a fps cap.
Today i got into a game with a guy that spiked 390 ping and he called me the lagger that needed a new computer because he was shooting me on his screen where i am not. And one of his teamates also hade 200 - 300 ping.
In closing if you add a autokick and fps limit the lagg shot and death will only be whatever lagg your server has.
you8myrice
05-27-2007, 10:09 AM
100 - 160 ping is stilll high
TwiTcH
05-27-2007, 10:11 AM
100 - 160 ping is stilll high
No. Nothing gets apparent till after the 200 mark. Anything under 200 is still less than a half second of latency.
~BMF~
05-27-2007, 10:18 AM
Pyro;226268']High ping should be autokicked. That is all if we are all around 100 - 160 ping or less we wont here lagger no we will hear more idiots yelling get a better computer. So to fix the problem that comes from the autokicking put a fps cap.
Today i got into a game with a guy that spiked 390 ping and he called me the lagger that needed a new computer because he was shooting me on his screen where i am not. And one of his teamates also hade 200 - 300 ping.
In closing if you add a autokick and fps limit the lagg shot and death will only be whatever lagg your server has.
you think thats bad try playing against 5 people with 500 ping and 2 others with 300 but yes adding a ping cap is a very good idea
~BMF~
05-27-2007, 10:46 PM
I had to make myself a new rule its called the 3 hit rule it meens i need to shoot somone at least 3 times in the face with my sniper to take that laggy f**ker out why cant all the people from who knows where just play there own god damn verson of soldier front so dont have to deal with bulls**t like this
Meyer
05-28-2007, 01:43 PM
the lag shot happens to me alot since i live far from server
_SkillZ
05-28-2007, 11:03 PM
Same here, it was horrible. We played cK alot and all the kills on me and a couple other members were lagg kills. DON'T FLAME ME!!! We did get owned so those little noobs who like to say, "oh you just got owned by them, that is why you are making up stuff." Well it's true, but I didn't get mad, I was expecting it.
mnkeybones
05-30-2007, 06:12 PM
isnt htere a way to make the walal solid so no way they can go through oh well idont know a thing about making maps and stuff just tyring to makes a suggestion
areudead1
06-01-2007, 05:09 PM
[Lag Shot/Death] = This is when a player appears as if he/she was shot or killed through a solid object or when it appears as if you are shooting an opponent but the opponent fails to lose health.
We currently can not do much about this issue since we have many users playing from around the world. A user's gaming experience will vary from user to user depending on the user's location, connection and distance to the server.
Our server currently resides in California and future plans for an additional server in the East Coast may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front.
That is really too bad because all of the statistics that are gathered mean nothing because of this. I have a 62 ping which is typical from Texas and it is not bad except that I get owned by either California players or anybody over 145 ping. For example, I just played and put 30 rounds in a player with a 248 ping and I die from one shot. XD! Or the other scenarios of getting shot with one round from a P90 and I die.
The statistics mean nothing! If we play with California players (14 Ping Avg) it is no contest. They can hop and manuever like nobodies business while we slow jump for crying out loud. And forget the 500 pingers because that is a joke! How can the program even load in 30 seconds.
To be honest, I don't believe there is nothing that can be done. For instance, when we played the Japanese version, our high pings did not help us one bit.
Please forgive me, but I am angry at the disadvantages caused by ping differences while having some lagger sit there and tell me he owned me after I shot him 30 times! By the same token, how can IJJI have any fair contest or rating system because of this one fact. I wonder if any of you GM guys have experienced this? Oh I forgot, you are in California with a 14 ping that has the same effect as a lag. Oh well, just my opinion.:sarcasm:
big_time_k0
06-19-2007, 01:12 PM
I like the idea of moving, or making a server to the east coast for less lag, the sooner the better for more fun
snoopdog
06-21-2007, 12:45 PM
but the thing is there is no europian sf...
BIoody
06-21-2007, 04:23 PM
I'm not sure if these are related to Lagkill/Lagdeath but I feel they have to be said.
1. I can shoot someone yet it doesnt register on their health. When i snipe i look at the white mark made on my opponent and say hey.... why didnt you lose any health?
2. Related to the first one yet I being the opponent in this scenario. I go around a corner and bam I get hit by a sniper.....My screen registers that ive been hit because my health turns red, yet my health doesn't lower.
3. Also related to the aformentioned things...I'm not sure if games start before connections between players and servers are made. It seems that these problems occur mainly in the first round for me. I can snipe a moving somone from beggining window at shang 3 times first round with no effect yet 2nd round on I am perfectly fine. Only first round kills i get with sniper are when they are moving straight towards me.
Please help me atleast understand the first 2 and please look into if there could possibly be a correction for the 3rd.
SoldierBoi1
06-23-2007, 10:34 AM
finally 1 on East coast, i live in South Florida so my ping don't average very good, 90-120 ping at times,so east coast server would be nice, new york has the highest bandwidth, so a server there would be good.
Yaminick
06-28-2007, 06:31 PM
eat cosst server would be great also auto kick for high ping ping over 300 average for me is 90-100
Stick
06-28-2007, 07:59 PM
Lag shot gets me alot, simply from tactically moving away from the enemy (running like a coward) and camping.
point&click
06-29-2007, 01:41 AM
avg ping (tooked for 3 friend and me) is anywhere from 70ish to 100 ping we live on East coast
Fishstick
06-29-2007, 08:07 AM
i freakin live in texas and its hard to get kills... no wonder i got kill death of 1.5, STUPID LAG... took me 5 headshots on one guy and he didnt die...
stickly4444
06-29-2007, 08:21 AM
Being a long time player of CS maybe I can go into this more.
Situations above happen in almost any multiplayer FPS, just seems like it happens more in Soldier Front. Lag compensation, or lack therefore, is the main culprit. Lets try and break this stuff down, you have player A and player B on opposite teams. I'll go through this each second.
00:01 player A is hiding behind a crate and player B is running down a corridor in A's direction.
00:02 player A pops out from behind his crate, sees player B and quickly hides back behind the crate again. Player B doesn't see player A do this because of his 'lag'
00:03 Because player B is 'lagging' maybe because of a bad connection or his geographical location, AT THIS TIME, player B NOW sees player A pop out from behind his crate, and promptly headshots him.
00:04 Player A dies behind his crate even though he can't see B and B can't see him, and is frustrated.
Lag compensation in FPS's make it so you don't have to 'lead' your targets because they or YOU are lagging. You can generally aim at their MODEL and hit them. This compensation basically means: If you see somebody, put them in the crosshairs and shoot at them, the shot will register, regardless if the receiving player thinks he's behind a wall or other solid object at the time. This is because the 'laggy' player is receiving packets a few miliseconds behind everyone else.
Soldier front, by the looks of it, is a P2P(peer to peer) game, much like Gunz or Halo is, where everyone connects to each other rather then everybody connecting to a server. If this game was switched from P2P to server based, you would probably see a drastic drop in these 'lag kills', but I wouldn't count in Ijji doing so, as maintaining a server for a game costs quite a bit of money, and this is a free to play game.
Now my fingers are cramped.
well ya there's all that stuff BUT you forgot 4 things
00:05 When player A died the next round came player A will hide until he finds player B. Once player A has found player B He will shoot at player B BUT player B is "lagging" so he is running in one spot.
00:06 After player A has wasted alot of his ammo player B will disapper and player A will be killed.
00:07 After that round player A will hide but then he would be killed without even seeing player B because of player B's "Lag".
00:08 Player A will ether "Leave" or "not leave".
Ya that's probly the rest.
Fishstick
06-29-2007, 08:27 AM
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GM_SKiNG i found a site that explains how to glitch many ways and i hope u will find these usful, www.hackproviders.com <---plp explain where to hack, just go to search and type in soldier front hacks. www.mafiacoders.com <-----they give out a wall hack that allows you to see plp through walls and changes there head to blue so u can shoot it easier!
Just hope thats helpful and i know i done this on another one its just so i can get your attention
Speaking of lag, I can't help but ask about those sudden server lag attacks. Every once in a while, (about 5 times or more a day), there's this epic pause during a game. After about 3 seconds, I find myself dead on the floor along with several other comrades of mine and the game "catches up" with the kills. What exactly causes this?
Jason8810
07-05-2007, 08:25 AM
Since this is annoucned no more people saying "hacker" to other people if they get lagged killed.
That is extremely frustrating, getting kicked out of a server because you were 'hacking' when some r3t4rd pursuades the room master to kick you only because they live on the other side of the globe. :mad:
japjord713
07-06-2007, 10:29 PM
I suggest one in northern georgia and one in Utah.
*Run*
07-07-2007, 06:47 AM
I live in Canada/Ontario and It's pretty laggy and when I try to kill I mostly lag and die, but it's mostly normal.
Avngr
07-07-2007, 07:04 AM
ye lag is really really annoying shot the guy once and he somehow teleports behind me and then he shot me to 50 hp then i ran behind box shot him again in the head and then ducked in reload, reload finished and then i shot him and he died. After the next round started as soon as i started to move it said he head shotted me ..
Hazashi
07-07-2007, 06:39 PM
[Lag Shot/Death] = This is when a player appears as if he/she was shot or killed through a solid object or when it appears as if you are shooting an opponent but the opponent fails to lose health.
We currently can not do much about this issue since we have many users playing from around the world. A user's gaming experience will vary from user to user depending on the user's location, connection and distance to the server.
Our server currently resides in California and future plans for an additional server in the East Coast may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front.
If SF does do well, when do you think you would create the server? Cause right now i have a really slow internet and i live in NY so i lag a lot >.>....
Tinky_Winky
07-12-2007, 09:26 PM
Well Australia owns and 180-500 ping owns tbh.
Notice the sarcasm.
I do quite fine, but i get lag killed 70-90% of the time, i sit on 186-216ping and then around that to 280 late at night.
agent_wolf
07-14-2007, 02:14 PM
dude i was sniping and there was this guy he came up to me and he said KILL ME so i start hitting him the head and ui had a fr f2 so 10 bullets i use all of in his head then somehow he disappears goes behind me and stabbed me and i die NOT IN THE HEAD THO.
bonddude
07-14-2007, 11:25 PM
0.0 thats messed up thats as bad as today when we were in a teammatch and I headshot this sniper with my sniper and after his death he headshot me and I was all "WTFen" over it...
Kayugen
07-14-2007, 11:58 PM
Les projectiles de sucent de plus mauvais puis intrus eux-m
>RoyalGuard<
07-15-2007, 09:58 AM
Usa, Usa... what we need is a server in europe:no: !
you are working to get your pings in usa from 70 to 40 but players from europe have over 200 ping. that is very stupid!
yea we either need a european server or maybe u (oh and by saying u i mean the creators of sf) could make us our own soldier front (Euro SF)that would be good :D . As for the person that thinks all outsiders should be banned..i would de-rep u if i could :mad:
Duke_Nukem
07-15-2007, 01:12 PM
There should just be servers in America and English speaking Canada. I think everywhere else should be IP blocked, seeing as this is the North American Version.
Darkseer
07-15-2007, 02:47 PM
that would block half of sf players plus north America is closer to them then china...why not just put a server on the east coast so its closer to them that may help cause i doubt some people over there and the states that are on the east coast but like i said ip blocking would cut the sf players in half
Ownij_Inc
07-18-2007, 07:36 PM
wow. If this game IS P2P then it is seriously flawed. For one, in a P2P game player A's ping would be seen drastically different for players B and C and looking at his own ping would show as 0 to him. 2. there would be considerably less lag in rooms created by players in the U.S. than there is in rooms created by players in foreign lands.
Now as far as being selfish goes... it is the players that KNOW they have a 150+ ping (which by the way is lag no matter what story you make up to explain ping.) yet they still come into servers and get lag kills without regards to how its affecting the local players game.
You high ping players come in and lag it up and get high scores because the low pingers cant hit you due to the lag.
Ping: measurement of time in milliseconds taken for a packet of data to go from YOUR pc to the SERVER and back to YOUR pc. Though it CAN be related to distance, it is not the soul cause of high ping. Nor is high ping the only cause of lag. A 34 ping player can have lag against another 34 ping play ifhe has a slower computer.
However the 2 biggest causes of lag in this game are high ping players from foreign lands and the game itself being heavily flawed in its coding. I love the game but ever since this last update it's competely worthless... I went from having smoooooth gameplay to typing fastert han it shows up on my screen. It sure as hell isnt my computer cuz i get 90-125 FPS in every other game I play, and no offense but as ppoor as the graphics are in this game, it isnt a high resource demanding game. I fly around in helicopters blowing up tanks with completely smooth ease in War Rock. Yet I have video lag shooting at a guy right in front of me in SF.
Ownij_Inc
07-18-2007, 07:39 PM
the east coast is further from china than the west coast. there needs to be a group of the servers that are already in existance dedicated to higher pings as well as a group dedicated to lower pings. half of the servers they have arent even being used. Just put a ping limitation on half of the servers...
BlackWallStreet
07-18-2007, 10:02 PM
Well explained.
Wootsers
07-26-2007, 01:28 AM
A lot of people are quitting, such as myself, because of this issue. The success of this game will occur shall a new server be created in the East Coast. I am not really sure if where the computers are affects the lag shot issues. I've tried this on two of my household computers. I've recently bought another laptop and I placed the computers right next to each other and directly connected with an ethernet cord to the Verizon DSL modem just to test this lag shot issue. Though I don't live in California, I live on the East Coast but shouldn't the shots I take time to aim be successful being that the computers are RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER? Around 30% of the shots are usually unsuccessful regardless of how much time I take to get 100% surefire precision. I even try standing right next to the enemy sentry and sometimes the shots are unsuccessful. All I'm saying is, maybe if the server in the East Coast was released, then maybe more people would play this game and more people wouldn't be so pissed off and maybe people will ACTUALLY DIE WHEN THEY GET LIT UP LIKE THE FOURTH OF JULY. That is all I have to say. :mad:
Wootsers
07-26-2007, 01:45 AM
Speaking of lag, I can't help but ask about those sudden server lag attacks. Every once in a while, (about 5 times or more a day), there's this epic pause during a game. After about 3 seconds, I find myself dead on the floor along with several other comrades of mine and the game "catches up" with the kills. What exactly causes this?
That, my friend, is modem tapping. It's a so-called "technique;" a technique where a user will unplug his ethernet cord or whatever is connecting him to the internet, goes to nade/shoot people, and plug his modem back into the computer. This is another issue that pisses me off. I can't play ONE GAME without having one of these modem tappers.
RadTheGreatest
07-31-2007, 11:25 AM
i hate when this happen . i shot but they still walking and after some second they die ...
or with knives , the ppl who has too low or too high ping arent even close to me but they still getting me. and other lagg thingyas are the modem tappers... ITS IMPOSIBLE TO PLAY!
JEDI420
08-02-2007, 01:34 PM
i never lag. cali rules. i am always the first or second to load into the map. its sad that all the laggers can freaking kill me then apper in front of me after i die. it sucks and it doesnt take skill to lag kill. in a way its cheating, they have a advantage because no matter what you cant shoot them no matter where there body is because there not really there.
~BMF~
08-11-2007, 02:26 AM
WTF it has gotten worse this game is no longer a game of skill its all about who pays less for internet service...
Zaman
08-12-2007, 08:41 PM
this is a big problem cause i always die by this i try trowing a gernade im on the the other side of the wall psg1 sound then i die.. u gotta fix that :(
{hks}otacon
08-19-2007, 12:16 AM
how about delete SF lol jks
kiousachi
08-19-2007, 12:42 AM
If ur ping is 500 u lag 5 seconds+ 400 4 secs+ 300 sec+ sand so on i suggest servers in korea new york and england than would get rid of most laggers
{hks}otacon
08-19-2007, 01:40 PM
If ur ping is 500 u lag 5 seconds+ 400 4 secs+ 300 sec+ sand so on i suggest servers in korea new york and england than would get rid of most laggers
and 1 in brasil. dam brasilians screw up the game 2. but u cant make a server willi nilli. ijji should just mass ban 200+ pingerz. they can go play runescape.
Darkseer
08-19-2007, 02:41 PM
or they could put a server for East coast thats all i can think since these are the north america versions of the games
RedHairW33d
09-09-2007, 10:10 PM
An east coast server would be great, I cant kill anyone in first round in under 3 shots (sniper) and im in florida.
$Banks$
09-10-2007, 01:49 AM
i think they should set up some servers in east coast and in Canada...
fire23150
09-10-2007, 05:30 AM
buy G coin to fund?
122233344
09-10-2007, 06:44 AM
this is a big prob, one time my friend was on, and he was lagging. but as a friend i didn't want to say that. So i had to bear through 10 rounds of him, shooting before turning a wall, Running through boxes and moon jumping.
SniperHS
09-10-2007, 08:41 AM
i have it sometimes too
but it aint a real big problem when the server is not overloaded
i_CoNtRoL_i
09-10-2007, 01:32 PM
they will never do this, since they will never make a profit. but it will benefit us
Punjabikid
09-12-2007, 08:13 PM
I THINK SF IS POPULAR NOW AND ANOTHER SERVER NEEDS TO BE SET UP!
with the new update that happened today, iv never seen sf play so bad! i mean, members in my clan who live in california are getting pings of 115? normally have 20 or around there.
i shoot people in the head 3 times with a sniper and they still have 100hp!! i mean come on, what is going on!!!
Wootsers
09-12-2007, 08:21 PM
ijji, really, something has to be done about these high pingers. People such as foreigners have to be blocked as Japanese SF did with Americans. American IPs are banned from Japanese Soldier front and I believe with the other Soldier Fronts as well. A clan and their pings were 290+ and one by the name of hesta2 completely killed my clanmate before sight of even third POV. As well, when we had our rematch, a sniper with an FRF2 shot me and killed me after he had been on the ground for LITERALLY two seconds. We should really ban foreign pings, it's a suggestion and it might make SF more enjoyable and they can go to the SF geographically closest to them to avoid any high pings because it ruins the game. That is one suggestion. The other suggestion is the create a new and nearer server to them.
Darkseer
09-13-2007, 01:39 AM
the ip block could
1. lower the sf population by half(UK and the ero people)
2.people can get caught in the ban range with people who have dramantic ips mostly people with routers
how about just put a server on the east coast
HackingReporter
09-30-2007, 07:30 PM
i hate lagg shots
PwnM4n
09-30-2007, 07:44 PM
server in euro and centro america
Old-Snake
10-02-2007, 02:47 PM
to keep it simple for GMs. ull all go bankrupt without the east coast server. like it or not, u wont manage without one. soooooo many ppl quit cuz of lag. also putting up an east coast server will probably get double the amount of players. and since wen was the last time u guys added a new gun? honesty im getting disapointed in the GMs work. If its cuz they r short on ppl, its for a reason. low pay maybe. low pay cuz not alot of ppl buying, meaning not enough ppl buying also meanign not enough ppl play. building the east coast server will in fact get them more money in the long run. europeans playing on east coast servers will probably get 90 ping. and jus mass ban all south american and african IPs. then there u go. u got the best SF possible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldier_front
external links
North America Soldier Front - English version website
NORTH AMERICA
c that europeans? this isnt ur game, is north americas. leave us alone
same goes for brasilians. honestly u guys piss me off. **** you brasilians **** you. o yea and arabs **** you arabs
Old-Snake
10-02-2007, 02:48 PM
oh and to add to that the ppl that left ijji either went to softynx or sum other websites. at least i no softynx has rly stable servers and have them world wide. u should be amazed by how much money they get.
Old-Snake
10-02-2007, 02:52 PM
ijji, really, something has to be done about these high pingers. People such as foreigners have to be blocked as Japanese SF did with Americans. American IPs are banned from Japanese Soldier front and I believe with the other Soldier Fronts as well. A clan and their pings were 290+ and one by the name of hesta2 completely killed my clanmate before sight of even third POV. As well, when we had our rematch, a sniper with an FRF2 shot me and killed me after he had been on the ground for LITERALLY two seconds. We should really ban foreign pings, it's a suggestion and it might make SF more enjoyable and they can go to the SF geographically closest to them to avoid any high pings because it ruins the game. That is one suggestion. The other suggestion is the create a new and nearer server to them.
doing that could be risky. its 50, 50% chance making sf better.
1. it will lower the pop. of sf and maybe ban soo many ppl that buy coins.
2. on the otehr hand it will make servers more stable bringing bak more ppl possibly the ppl that quit sf. those ppl dat come bak may by coins knowing that the game makes more "sense" without "ridiculous" lag.
honestly im so cheesed with GMs. like holy motha ****ing ****. well thats wat happens with poor business skills.
Slayer003
10-18-2007, 11:59 PM
hey ive known this....but the since the update all the servers have been lagging alot...and its makeing me made..
*FOX*
10-20-2007, 07:30 AM
ya an east coats server would be nice
FPS_Foxtrot
10-21-2007, 08:29 AM
Living in Fl. gives me around 70-90 ping not that bad. I laughed because the Gm's ping was around 10 and 11 :P.
DaBaLLer
10-21-2007, 12:33 PM
[Lag Shot/Death] = This is when a player appears as if he/she was shot or killed through a solid object or when it appears as if you are shooting an opponent but the opponent fails to lose health.
We currently can not do much about this issue since we have many users playing from around the world. A user's gaming experience will vary from user to user depending on the user's location, connection and distance to the server.
Our server currently resides in California and future plans for an additional server in the East Coast may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front.
East Coast sounds great. I'm living in Cali right now so I seem to die a lot faster than most foreigners. They seem to lag up the game and disrupt it. We should only allow U.S. players and not any other foreign country.
Soffish 2 Revived.
10-21-2007, 02:04 PM
I agree. I live in Ann arbor, Michigan.
1. It would lower the population by around 25%
2. No ping problems
3. The engine for SF sucks
4. I've seen better ping in America's Army
5. Quake 3 doesn't lag no matter what
6. They should consider a change to another engine like the ioquake3 engine.
One problem... Japanese SF works with me :P?
[EDIT]
Those stupid mexicans with their crap computers probably can't read english anyway. I've tried, I've tried, to silence their gun a million times during knife fights.
wreakhavoc
10-21-2007, 02:19 PM
yea an east coats server would be beast, also u could have a ping limit in games so high pings get kicked if they last like 10 secs
watupppl
10-21-2007, 08:53 PM
bro just let canada and usa play man
BLEACH-ME
10-22-2007, 06:41 PM
There has been alot of lag for VA
3rd*[A]ssault
10-22-2007, 07:47 PM
Im in vancouver and i just get killed in one shot while i gotta shoot the other guys in the head 3 times.
Pelvis
10-22-2007, 10:00 PM
but how come the servers suck so much now
[VP]Mono¬`
10-23-2007, 05:15 AM
bro just let canada and usa play man
"Bro"?
And If they did that I would protest until they made a EU/UK version of the game.
And it really wouldn't matter atm, the servers are messed up, the GM's even posted that.
I mean srsly, my pings doubled. But ping isn't everything, I load up in the top 3 speedwise, and I USUALLY* die when shot with a sniper.
*On occasion I don't, and I will admit that. But for someone with "High" Ping, I take hits alot and when I hit 100 pingers they don't seem to die.
make servers in America, Europe and Asia and South East Asia, preferably Singapore. don't forget oceania!
wongalolo
11-09-2007, 10:13 PM
I think that Ijji should install a Ping thing before the game so that the Host can see the persons PING and kick them before the game starts.
Spartan_26
11-14-2007, 02:38 PM
if u get another 1 to the east coast, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NEW YORK!!!!!!, omg, i would love to work here and have SF as my main game!!!
CNC_MATT
11-18-2007, 03:40 PM
Ok lets clear this up abit eh..
Making a UK server would be great.. Just like warrock or something.. No hassel in that?
You probably make a fortune anyway..
Make an UK server and South ammy server then do a ping limiter..
That will kill the nooby laggers.
Waters
11-18-2007, 05:02 PM
el oh el...
[SG]Pengu
11-23-2007, 01:57 PM
The thing is they are still shooting at you as you were 5 seconds ago, so even if they didn't lag you still would of died, right?
shkwave93
11-23-2007, 02:44 PM
lol i absolutely hate lag kills.....itys so annoying you snipe someone with quickscope in the head there body falls on the ground and you die like 3 seconds later, thenit says you killed them :(
shad0w
11-23-2007, 03:46 PM
some times wen a person lags and they takes ages 2 die they blame shooter which is bs
FrozoneND
11-23-2007, 07:53 PM
well if u get killed by lagshot oh well badluck, get over it
and no1 perfect...infact EVERYONE IS LAGGGED IN SFRONT ==" so get over it.
i wish ping neva invented and it not shown on the score board to protect people privacyy T_T..so no1 fighting over it
REP ME PLZZ , I"LL REP BACK :D
FrozoneND
11-23-2007, 07:55 PM
I think that Ijji should install a Ping thing before the game so that the Host can see the persons PING and kick them before the game starts.
lol wongalolo that's a bad idea you know, since me and you r from aussie :) so yeh our average ping = 150 ~ 200...so yeh ==". it's a bad idea
REP ME PLZZ !!! :thumbsup:
Aellogic
11-23-2007, 10:47 PM
yeah u guys need lots of work to do
because they r this dudes over 500 ping rolf
shkwave93
11-24-2007, 07:19 AM
i hate when your killed by a lag kill :(
M4[Strapped]
11-24-2007, 09:12 AM
But Then Again, This Is a Free game and people play it around the world just like GM_SkiNG Said..
Nothing We or Them Can Do..
shkwave93
11-24-2007, 09:22 AM
true,true:)
CNC_MATT
11-24-2007, 11:02 AM
;1034016']But Then Again, This Is a Free game and people play it around the world just like GM_SkiNG Said..
Nothing We or Them Can Do..
We can still make Other servers.
FrozoneND
11-24-2007, 09:07 PM
We can still make Other servers.
lol.....it costs heaps of money u noe...(money for hiring GM, and build the sever, etc lol)
Shmoes
11-24-2007, 09:48 PM
That's y we gotta fund them with G Coins~
STFUnPlay
11-24-2007, 10:51 PM
Go buy Counter-Strike then.
FrozoneND
11-25-2007, 01:33 AM
lol cs suck i hate it
[-Sin-]
12-01-2007, 10:09 AM
hmm well players lets start buying twice as much gcoins as we do now even though we are spoiling ijji in my view :D since my view is a view that doesnt know how much they pay for the bills and how much they earn
Golden_Bullet
12-02-2007, 12:22 PM
I Want A UK SoldierFront :(
I Lag Loads At The Begining Of Rounds And I'm Usually Dead By The Time I've Stopped Lagging
I Also Want To See A PING LIMITER :D
That Would Help So Much...
iQuickScope_
12-02-2007, 12:28 PM
[Lag Shot/Death] = This is when a player appears as if he/she was shot or killed through a solid object or when it appears as if you are shooting an opponent but the opponent fails to lose health.
We currently can not do much about this issue since we have many users playing from around the world. A user's gaming experience will vary from user to user depending on the user's location, connection and distance to the server.
Our server currently resides in California and future plans for an additional server in the East Coast may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front.
cant you ban foreigners just like the other versions banned foreigners??? its no fair, the foreigners are the ones causing the lag. you shud just let ppl in North America and Canada play... think about it, we cant play Korean Special Force, but they can play ours. its no fair, they are lagging up our servers. ppl from outside of North America and Canada should be banned from our servers. Thai Special Force just banned foreigners too.:busted:
Golden_Bullet
12-02-2007, 12:46 PM
cant you ban foreigners just like the other versions banned foreigners??? its no fair, the foreigners are the ones causing the lag. you shud just let ppl in North America and Canada play... think about it, we cant play Korean Special Force, but they can play ours. its no fair, they are lagging up our servers. ppl from outside of North America and Canada should be banned from our servers. Thai Special Force just banned foreigners too.:busted:
I Disagree As I Live In The UK Somewhere
PING LIMITER WILL SOLVE THIS
CANT THEY JUST DISCONNECT EVERYONE WITH OVER 200 PING?!?!
1_Hit_Dead
12-02-2007, 01:10 PM
Stop spamming furps and as for golden bullet we all experience it even people in the usa like me
mdcdeve
12-02-2007, 11:42 PM
Alot to do with packets and who is sending the death packet, for instance in warrock the killer and not the killed sends the death packet, so if you kill someone there and he dosen't receive the death packet fast enough from the server then he can have enough time to kill you, death packet sent and your dead.
sunstriker
12-09-2007, 10:46 AM
we seriously need one more servor on the east coast. I and many people live on the East coast but have pings higher than 100. Yes, I know some people residing on the east coast have less than 100 but that is less common. Anyway, the first step to removing this lag would be as the gm suggested to create one more servor. The other option is banning foreign ips but im not sure if ever1 will approve of that.
LatinTouch
12-09-2007, 06:56 PM
Some times...When i am playing with a guy with 500 ping or something..At the start of the game,About 20 seconds in...I fall like 20 feet out of the sky and i lose a lot of hp?
-Nachos
12-10-2007, 09:38 AM
Some times...When i am playing with a guy with 500 ping or something..At the start of the game,About 20 seconds in...I fall like 20 feet out of the sky and i lose a lot of hp?
I just imagined that in CS and I was like HOLY @#$%
lol
There are no lagshot, it takes time for the shot to process and during that time, you run around a cornor, and the shot processes and kills you. So they already shot you but you ran around a cornor while the shot was processing.
DarkOsprey25
12-12-2007, 06:45 PM
Australia doesn't have a server, why should they be punished because dragonfly/ijji are too frickin greedy to have servers there? And if they didn't want players from other countries playing us soldier front, then they shouldn't be advertising it on other gaming sites nor should they even allow access to it on their site if the user in question is recognised to be "foreign" as some of you so blatantly put it.
[D7]Sungwon
12-12-2007, 06:59 PM
lol get every one to buy a server! that fixes ur prob :xd:
IAmANoobie
12-12-2007, 07:51 PM
Hm, another lag discussion huh? Well, what really can be done about it? 200+ping is generally laggy because of geographical location or poor connection;however, there is nothing that can be done about it. Unless,as was stated before, we add another server on the east coast. Yet the chances of that... well...
{FromAbove}
12-15-2007, 10:27 AM
Mehs i live on East coast. People who have like 500 ping 24/7 really should think about their ping instead of saying OTHER people in the game lag. SF players r seriously not very nice to eachother.... (That was sorta random but...^^)
DarkOsprey25
12-16-2007, 02:58 AM
Oddly enough I did a speed test between myself and a server in California (where the SF server is supposed to be) and the results were surprisingly good. I do experience the tiniest bit of lag ingame at times (myself and an opponent killing each other lol) but generally I can play the game fairly smoothly with little complaint from others. :)
San^Diego
01-19-2008, 10:31 AM
Cant wait til ping limiters
*KuLiiTx*
02-16-2008, 07:39 PM
Nice ... i live in california so to all the people that say i lagg shot them ... your wrong... u guys jsut die ...
*KuLiiTx*
02-16-2008, 07:41 PM
whats a ping limiters?
BloodStrike
02-19-2008, 12:02 PM
would it cost alot of money to make a server on the east coast?
TopGunnerJussa*
02-19-2008, 01:09 PM
Europe Server = Europe players play Europe SF = American SF no Euro laggers
PROBLEM SOLVED?
Yesterdays_newz
02-22-2008, 06:07 PM
yea hanother server would be brilliant. lol I was playing this game and I think somone was tapping, cose I shot this guy wit remmy Point blank AT LEAST 3 times and PSGed 3 times >:( the annoying thing is when they do that, and like a min later u kill them...but u lag/hack/tap/cheat/wall
gogeta126
03-08-2008, 05:01 AM
european server would be nice ^^
Vi3txStryker
03-08-2008, 07:18 PM
Another Way Of Lag Is A Tapper... Like Dude He Lags The Whole Game And It's Hard For Me To Play When I Lag Cause I Dunno Where I Shoot And Such.
Another One Is The Lag Loaders Where They Are at 0% And the Game Starts And You Cant Kill Them Its a waste of Time So 1 Suggestion is that SF Should Make A Thing Where After Like 60 Seconds Or Less The People That Havent Loaded Get Kicked From Game Automaticcaly
~Vi3txStryker
square1
03-09-2008, 12:45 PM
East coast severs would cut the lag for us american players. The midwest would get it from the east coast, and west coast so I pretty much believe that's the answer to all are troubles.
Meyer
03-09-2008, 12:45 PM
Well, I live in California, and I dont see this problem too much. Although I do see when they lag a bit on one spot, then "supposedly" teleport to another spot. I don't whether that's just me, though...
~MS-13
maybe they tapping or have a really bad comp
Tailers
03-09-2008, 01:15 PM
lag shots dont bother me THAT much. they sometimes do but even if it wasnt a lag shot u would still die =/ just earlier...
and we all lag so meh, we gotta deal with it
[CLiPz]SiG!
03-09-2008, 02:09 PM
Their servers just suck.
V3iTZ_Boi
03-10-2008, 09:06 AM
I've seen people in a dead position sliding on the ground and I have a suggestion on what to do. If people have more that 200 ping (or whatever ping you want to be as the limit) they'll be automaticly kicked from the game.
XpointclickX
04-13-2008, 06:37 PM
well i live in freakin Australia and i sit on around 200 ping i dont like it i do lagg but not terrible there needs to be a server not just in america but in uk lots of people in the uk play why give america another server
*Charming
04-17-2008, 01:23 PM
Dear: GMs
To me Soldier Front is a awesome game that i wont ever let go. everyday I spend 3 to 5 hours playing SF, Sometimes more, i bought gcoins b4 and still do.
But it hurts so much having to log in, and having to deal with players that have 200 ping 300 ping even 500 ping. and you look at it ur like thats fine ill make to the server b4 him. i got a awesome 16, 68, 94 ping =]! ur right but at the same time ur wrong. bcuz he will also be late to ur screen and b4 he turn that corner u will be dead on the ground without a chance to even fight back.
You know why bcuz theres 1 server in cali. and there are over 10,000 players playing daily all over the world.
Even freaking asians are playing. asians that live in asia. u have ksf and jsf right next to you. why come here with ur 250 ping?
Maybe they have a good excuse,
Maybe GM's have a good excuse why they havent done something about it,
Maybe everything im saying is wrong,
Maybe theres more to it than what i know.
I do know many ppl that quit cuz the lag and the ping / server problems.
They live in the U.S.
I do realize that daily there are more ppl playing with higher pings. Trust me i know all i do is play soldier front, its spring brake and i havent gone out once i wake up soldier front 9 pm at night gym 11 pm sleep, next morning 6 am on the computer clicking on PLAY LIVE.
Soldier Front ur losing important players, if american players arent important, then why is the server is the U.S, this game is made for american players, not the world ...
I know that most ppl only look at forums to know any new updates, or problems, and GMs might not look at them either. but im still trying to speak out for myself and my fellow americans living in US that also love this game, and let GMs know that this problems is not just hurting our gameplay, but our hearts as well. we love this game. but we also love ourselves to much to keep playing. to even keep trying to play with so many problems going on.
GMs its ur choice. its in ur hands. its up to you to make the change. but time is running out. and you never know how long we will take this punishment.
PS- im not trying to tell GMs what to do or trying to make anoyone outside the US feel unwanted or hated,
i just want GMs to make it equal for all Soldier Front Players.
Sincerely,
American Players
DualGun
04-28-2008, 07:44 PM
Yo SKiNG, why cant ijji just ban foreign users like HanGame? I mean i tryed to play KSF, and it wouldnt allow me cause i dont live in Japan, shouldnt we do the same? It will make this game alot better and more Americans can actully enjoy this game rather than cussing at each other because of lag. I think IJJI should take this into consideration.
Thanks, just sharing my point of view
-=Mexican=-
04-28-2008, 08:36 PM
Ok Im Tired Of All These Fken Racists Sayin "we Shouldnt Let Foreigners Play Sfront Cus They Make Th Server Lag" And All That Crap, Yes Im Mexican , Yes I Speak English And I Dont Lag, I Live In Guadalajara And My Ping Is 70-90 So U Better Stfu And Stop Complainin About Mexicans Playin This Game
Bruj0
04-30-2008, 07:02 PM
I agree with Mexican my ping is 62-78 and im from Morelia michoacan
4hge8hskkk3sd
04-30-2008, 07:58 PM
Ok Im Tired Of All These Fken Racists Sayin "we Shouldnt Let Foreigners Play Sfront Cus They Make Th Server Lag" And All That Crap, Yes Im Mexican , Yes I Speak English And I Dont Lag, I Live In Guadalajara And My Ping Is 70-90 So U Better Stfu And Stop Complainin About Mexicans Playin This Game
When they say foreigners, they're usually talking about laggy brazillians, laggy australians, and laggy europeans
SwayNioken
04-30-2008, 08:40 PM
Ok Im Tired Of All These Fken Racists Sayin "we Shouldnt Let Foreigners Play Sfront Cus They Make Th Server Lag" And All That Crap, Yes Im Mexican , Yes I Speak English And I Dont Lag, I Live In Guadalajara And My Ping Is 70-90 So U Better Stfu And Stop Complainin About Mexicans Playin This Game
1. we aren't being racist. this is north american soldier front, same goes for north american gunbound. we're forced to play on this server yet we have people from overseas that can join if they want and make us lag
2. you aren't a foreigner, you're local. foriegners = overseas for extreme north/south canada/south america
SaintsGod
04-30-2008, 11:56 PM
this is america not other parts of the world just ip block them god damn it..
GansktuhGboi
05-02-2008, 04:23 PM
ok ok ok most solutions talk about blocking everybody but americans but why not just have ping limiters set when making a room like warrock or even instead of seperating the servers into rank u can seperate them by were ppl live
i just hope sf comes up with a solution soon bcuz if they do want to get big ur ganna have to get rid of the lag shots and the 200+pingers not to point any fingers but some ppl even use this lag as an advantage talkn crap online about how there pro when they got 500ping. .. i hope this is over soon
and i do understand bcuz of all the hacking that ijji cant get into updates for games and impovments for the game bcuz there so busy looking for ways to patch all other stuff so plz ijji take your time and perfect a way to get rid of the problem successfully
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FoX[H0ound]
05-03-2008, 01:25 AM
yah and i u hate that dont ever play soldierfront after 11 pm in the night cuz there is nothing but lagger with 200+ ping that are most likely from other countries besides the US well just hope they install either a ping limiter soon or just ip ban all foreigners to make the game more enjoyable without the lag shot and deaths >.> thats just my opinion tho
[N]oob[M]uch
05-03-2008, 01:56 AM
Sigh.... Even though I'm not mexican i agree with you. When they say you lag they mean you have a crap computer because they think mexicans can't afford anything better but that's just so racist. I'm so annoyed that people call me a lagger. I mean we can't all live in America where the ping ranges from 4-100. If Ijji/Dragonfly didnt want laggers in the game they would of put IP blocks on. But they just want everyone to play the game and have fun (and they want to get money xD). SO STFU about laggers and just play the game.
Tailers
05-03-2008, 03:01 AM
well... you whiners know what to do now dont ya?
buy tons and tons of G coins so SF is a success and they will make an east coast server.
UNTILL THEN, DONT COMPLAIN! its UNIVERSAL sf.
my computer is fine, I dont lag to much I ping from 150 to 200 the last few days idk why my ping went up it just did, I usualy balanced between 150 and 170 and I seriously hardly lag, its just that people like to say lagger when they die...
California!
05-07-2008, 11:57 AM
lag is the biggest problem
[S]upaMan!
05-09-2008, 12:39 AM
Yeh lagshots suck... its gettin worse the more forigners play the game like Q8
Does it affect anyone in colorado? because thats where i live and i havent seen to many laggs but a few realy bad one's
RefleXion
05-20-2008, 05:47 PM
I hate it the way Soldier Front laggs...makes a nice game the most horrible one.
People (who DONT have experience with the game, called noobs) whine about you being a wallhacker and HP-hacker (what the h*ck is an HP-hacker? I DONT KNOW), but they just DONT UNDERSTAND that at MY screen they weren't behind the wall yet. And because there is this lagg they get killed when they are behind the wall at THEIR OWN screens.
And then you get it: "Lagger", "Hacker", "Tapper", "Waller", "Glitcher"... GM's you should know how many fights there are in just one game. People are swearing and whining whenever they can.
I'm off here...hope the new server will come as fast as possible
(there should be a mechanism disallowing players above 200 ping to join the game)
Floris232
05-22-2008, 01:02 PM
why the GM_s dont make special server? you can with Ping see where they life, in what continent they life. Then you can make a server for Europe and for Americas and for Asia you can but for Asis you to have the Japanse Soldier Front. Then you got less more laggers and i lagg to so i know how stupid it is to kill by a lagg shooter. Only 1 problem with this plan. I think it take many time. This is only a idea.
Have a nice day!!!
regards from Floris232
lol she spelled live wrong she put life instead lmao =) she was probably typing fast or something but just forget what i just said lol...
akmandem69
05-23-2008, 04:16 AM
Some people lag on purpose, something must be done to stop them, they make the whole game very hard.
Meyer
05-23-2008, 08:50 AM
Some people lag on purpose, something must be done to stop them, they make the whole game very hard.
ya they leave another program running so they can make themselves lag, ijji shout remove all other programs while playing soldier front
royal lawcreen
05-23-2008, 11:19 AM
meh unfair dont block the connection for forigners ( my ping is 200 max )...... many people wont play sf so ijji wont gain money :D!!!
ijji need to make a server for europe another for asia and done ; of course another for south americans ( specially br's who lag crazy with 500 ping
PotentPK
05-23-2008, 02:25 PM
The lag is getting worse...
LegendofZeroOne
05-23-2008, 06:51 PM
It seems to me that the lag is getting worse with every update, not just lag but bugs as well.
Today I got killed by 1 bullet from m4.
On my screen the guy shoots me with 1 bullet and I die.
Then the person who shoots me tells me he only shot one bullet.
Wtf?
Oh yes and ppl are running around with fully automatic snipers now. A psg took down 4 ppl on my team in 1 sec cause he lagged and shot all 5 bullets at once.
OMFG
T4K*Ownage
05-23-2008, 07:41 PM
upaMan!;2048796']Yeh lagshots suck... its gettin worse the more forigners play the game like Q8
Thats a nice u got there
Okay, firstly, what was the point of this.. hahaa
nietkijken
05-30-2008, 03:06 PM
Europe server?! i am getting ton of lag everytime so making a server for every big location may stop ppl getting 100+ ping.
TripleKO
05-30-2008, 06:26 PM
It seems to me that the lag is getting worse with every update, not just lag but bugs as well.
Today I got killed by 1 bullet from m4.
On my screen the guy shoots me with 1 bullet and I die.
Then the person who shoots me tells me he only shot one bullet.
Wtf?
Oh yes and ppl are running around with fully automatic snipers now. A psg took down 4 ppl on my team in 1 sec cause he lagged and shot all 5 bullets at once.
OMFG
Wow automatic snipers........ :lust:
This happens on a rare occasion, I've never experiences anything like this...
pijpslet
06-07-2008, 07:46 AM
set a server in holland or in germany!! and one in australia/japan.that would take of about 100+ ping of every players avarage :D
Snipe_4_Fun
06-15-2008, 09:24 AM
Sf isn't going to have much more success if not less success then its had in the past with the lag getting worse day by day.. Just put a ping limiter up for U.S only.. Like KSF?
the_green_man
06-15-2008, 12:55 PM
u could not just put it up for U.S u would have to put it up for north america...
the_green_man
06-15-2008, 12:56 PM
set a server in holland or in germany!! and one in australia/japan.that would take of about 100+ ping of every players avarage :D
if it
did take off 100+ ping i would be left with -6 lol ... and some of my friend would has -54 FTW! lol:=p:
italiankyle
06-15-2008, 02:46 PM
if it
did take off 100+ ping i would be left with -6 lol ... and some of my friend would has -54 FTW! lol:=p:
Ya, i would have -22 ping...SWEET
dbostwick
06-15-2008, 05:10 PM
I would be left with -84 ping
IamSOirish
06-15-2008, 06:00 PM
i cant even play a good game on sf anymore its too laggy please find a way to fix this or im done playing thanks
thepsgbeast
06-16-2008, 10:07 AM
ping doesnt meen how for ur away from the server rite every one always saying that... somedays ill run 52 ping others ill run 68 its a lag meter not a distince meter
razerpeace
06-19-2008, 04:24 PM
I live in florida and i would love to have a server here on the east coast. I grow bored with me shotting someone ten time to just have them apper behind me and blow my fing head off. I can hold my own in most of the fight i get into but it suck having to fire my gun two second before the other player run around a corner or out from behind a box. plus is there away to have people who tap get kicked off line? It would help many people who play the game fair get some good points.
[M]16[A]1
06-27-2008, 05:55 AM
[Lag Shot/Death] = This is when a player appears as if he/she was shot or killed through a solid object or when it appears as if you are shooting an opponent but the opponent fails to lose health.
We currently can not do much about this issue since we have many users playing from around the world. A user's gaming experience will vary from user to user depending on the user's location, connection and distance to the server.
Our server currently resides in California and future plans for an additional server in the East Coast may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front.
Is this game for Just us players is the U_SF Stand for united statesfront?
Sicario
06-27-2008, 04:30 PM
whats with all this setting up servers in America what about putting a server in europe so the europe players can play lag free aswell. Since i know people with advantage alien cpu's who play sf and they also get a ping around 172 so its kinda weird yall blame it on the cpu of the owner who has a high ping. So dont come in here and blame the owners since i also got a great system of more then 2000 euros and i still get a ping around 172 while i got a T1 connection. So now tell me how da hell can it be my fault if i get a ping of 172.???
1337M4N008
06-27-2008, 05:24 PM
Final Fantasy i have the same problem. It only happens sometimes but it does happen. Its you and not the other players
ForummanV2
06-27-2008, 08:07 PM
16[A]1;2413784']Is this game for Just us players is the U_SF Stand for united statesfront?
No, U_SF stands for U STEWPID FCKER and the title of the game is Soldier Front. As in Universal_SoldierFront
l3vz1m1n
06-28-2008, 08:58 AM
Gm i have an idea for how to less the laggs, pls sent me a privie massege so ill tell it to u (i wanna get the credit)
nickmadman
06-28-2008, 10:10 AM
yo u guys need to set up in more places cauz this game laggs some much sometimes that i glitch by accident like bridge is the laggiest place in the whole game everyone knows that well once the game with 2on2 it was lagging badly enough that i was glitching in the car nearest to the blue base!!:no: i didnt like it either for 2 reasons 1 im not noob so i dont need to glitch and 2 i could get banned and i dont want that
INH Bong
07-20-2008, 05:02 PM
Just make the dam game U.S. only. ffs.. like Korea and Thailand. They did it and none of them has any problems with laggers now.
immortalsin4
07-23-2008, 07:32 AM
i no an easy way to get rid of most of the laggers and thats... making ijji an USA server only :P all other SF servers have blocked other countries IPs prolly for the same reason of massive laggers
YenHan
07-23-2008, 08:11 AM
i no an easy way to get rid of most of the laggers and thats... making ijji an USA server only :P all other SF servers have blocked other countries IPs prolly for the same reason of massive laggers
Noo Dun blocked T_T i gonna die if blocked
justinchiuex
07-23-2008, 08:12 AM
so does other countries be still able to play ijji soilder front still??
YenHan
07-23-2008, 08:14 AM
:( i lag much cuz my internet :(
sfGOD
07-23-2008, 08:34 AM
Go learn what USF means. USF means Universal Soldier Front. Yes universal, which means everyone is able to play it in the world. So people, don't try to change this thing cause they won't let only USA play.
nickelback
07-23-2008, 10:08 AM
[Lag Shot/Death] = This is when a player appears as if he/she was shot or killed through a solid object or when it appears as if you are shooting an opponent but the opponent fails to lose health.
We currently can not do much about this issue since we have many users playing from around the world. A user's gaming experience will vary from user to user depending on the user's location, connection and distance to the server.
Our server currently resides in California and future plans for an additional server in the East Coast may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front.
Either make new server rooms and divided them into section, such as "US_East" "US_West" "Canada" "Europe" and "international".
OR make SF residents in North America only
nickelback
07-23-2008, 10:13 AM
i no an easy way to get rid of most of the laggers and thats... making ijji an USA server only :P all other SF servers have blocked other countries IPs prolly for the same reason of massive laggers
Just make the dam game U.S. only. ffs.. like Korea and Thailand. They did it and none of them has any problems with laggers now.
Don't forgot Canada, Canada and the USA r big Trading partners. don't by a communist
killerjas30
07-23-2008, 04:45 PM
It happens alot. But after all. The person did shoot you and kill you, its just that you died when you was trying to hide again...
Forerunners
07-23-2008, 06:56 PM
What about the one, where someone with a spray weapon shoots in the completely opposite direction of you, but the bullets still hit you?
Forerunners
07-23-2008, 07:00 PM
I propose a system where the game automatically kicks a person with 150+ ping.
Ok, maybe that was a bit too exaggerated, bue do you have any idea of the fustration I have to deal with when playing this game? Sometimes, I feel as if I should quit this game once and for all......
I would love a new sever... imagine how great that would be.
killerjas30
07-24-2008, 08:56 AM
I dont have much experience in this. But isnt gunz on ijji, where each player connects to another player? Is soldier front doing the same thing? Because if not, it explains why people who live further away from america will have higher ping. So does making players connect to other players solve this problem?
HitMATFreedom
07-27-2008, 11:54 AM
wow this has to fixed quick. i get lagged shot everyday, especially in shang red team while im runnig to the wall and wen i get past the wall BOOM HEADSHOT! im like wtf.....
Hipeople
07-27-2008, 12:22 PM
or seperate channels from 0-150 200-300 and then 400-500 that how it should be seperated more or less
Crus4d3rR
08-01-2008, 07:45 AM
[Lag Shot/Death] = This is when a player appears as if he/she was shot or killed through a solid object or when it appears as if you are shooting an opponent but the opponent fails to lose health.
We currently can not do much about this issue since we have many users playing from around the world. A user's gaming experience will vary from user to user depending on the user's location, connection and distance to the server.
Our server currently resides in California and future plans for an additional server in the East Coast may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front.
you say world wide east coast isnt far from NA ... you fail if you don't put a server in europe. there are more europe players on SF than NA or Azians >.< and btw my friend plays ksf he lives in europe his dad is korean and have 20- ping there and if he plays ijji he has 200 ping and other azn's has 150-170 ping on ijji. so why you buy a wooden box with a paper processor as a server i used to host for gears of war PC and we were with 200 games and like 2000 players in hamachi. i rented a good server it wasn't even so expensive.... NA players had 28 ping on my europe server.
lol: may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front. fail i see loads of people playing with gcoin gear.. and you say you don't have success with soldier front if you count every 100 gcoins is like 10 dollars there are 1000+ players with 100-300 coins thats even people with 1000 gcoins a mont is like millions for you guys in some months
and they say its free huh its all about gcoins if you buy them you r better.. with those armor and stuff
LaOxOcEaNxbOi
08-01-2008, 01:20 PM
you say world wide east coast isnt far from NA ... you fail if you don't put a server in europe. there are more europe players on SF than NA or Azians >.< and btw my friend plays ksf he lives in europe his dad is korean and have 20- ping there and if he plays ijji he has 200 ping and other azn's has 150-170 ping on ijji. so why you buy a wooden box with a paper processor as a server i used to host for gears of war PC and we were with 200 games and like 2000 players in hamachi. i rented a good server it wasn't even so expensive.... NA players had 28 ping on my europe server.
lol: may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front. fail i see loads of people playing with gcoin gear.. and you say you don't have success with soldier front if you count every 100 gcoins is like 10 dollars there are 1000+ players with 100-300 coins thats even people with 1000 gcoins a mont is like millions for you guys in some months
and they say its free huh its all about gcoins if you buy them you r better.. with those armor and stuff
KSF pings are masked
Get Some
08-01-2008, 03:31 PM
[Lag Shot/Death] = This is when a player appears as if he/she was shot or killed through a solid object or when it appears as if you are shooting an opponent but the opponent fails to lose health.
We currently can not do much about this issue since we have many users playing from around the world. A user's gaming experience will vary from user to user depending on the user's location, connection and distance to the server.
Our server currently resides in California and future plans for an additional server in the East Coast may be an option depending on the success of Soldier Front.
They know how their game performs and yet this is what we get.
It really saddens me.
LaOxOcEaNxbOi
08-01-2008, 05:00 PM
They know how their game performs and yet this is what we get.
It really saddens me.
Please tell me how they're going to fix the problem with lag shooting. There are people all around the world who play USF (unfortunately). But still, that's not the only problem causing lag shooting, what about your internet connection? You think ijji will send everyone free cable/DSL internet? I don't think so.
EA ILoveEliza
08-01-2008, 05:04 PM
i no an easy way to get rid of most of the laggers and thats... making ijji an USA server only :P all other SF servers have blocked other countries IPs prolly for the same reason of massive laggers
SHUT UP i'm from canada any then i wasted my time on this.
Get Some
08-02-2008, 06:48 AM
Please tell me how they're going to fix the problem with lag shooting. There are people all around the world who play USF (unfortunately). But still, that's not the only problem causing lag shooting, what about your internet connection? You think ijji will send everyone free cable/DSL internet? I don't think so.
I don't design games and I don't have the technical know-how to answer this question.
I will tell you one thing though. I've played many online FPS games, and this is easily one of the worst when it comes to lag. It is simply ridiculous to charge for in-game items when they wiill just be negated by some high-pingers egregious lag. No, I don't know how they should fix it, but it is not unreasonable to expect them to do so. I've seen absolutely no effort of the sort, and I've started to wonder whether or not dragonfly screened any other companies before selling SF to ijji.
I would love to see an east coast server so that I can have killer latency. Also just a suggestion. I think that there should be blocks on those players outside North America and try to play the US-Sf.
I know espeically when i play late at night, i see many players from europe and even china on playing and lagging the server up like crazy.
well.. i dont think thats possible.. cause me as an singporean player in Asia Pacific.. i paid good money on this game.. more than $200 in my own country's currency.. if they plan to do that.. i intend on a refund on all the money i spent...
Even freaking asians are playing. asians that live in asia. u have ksf and jsf right next to you. why come here with ur 250 ping?
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We'll for the first... cause i am an Asian living in Asia.. Use your little brain and think...
there are multiple race in Asia...there's Chinese,Indians,Malays,Eurasians,Japanese,Koreans, Thai , Filipinos and many other more..the main difference in us is that WE SPEAK DIFFERENT LANGUAGEE..you think i myself as a Chinese don't want to play the Thai , Japanese or Korean servers? its cause i cant effing read... use your noggin for 1 sec and think...
the second thing is... even we ourselves as an Asian are blocked from playing the Japanese,Korean or Thai server.. only that specific country is allowed to play...
use your head for a minute and thing... your head's just big.. but inside its just all empty
imahbaitxP
08-02-2008, 09:32 AM
banned? why. and i apologize when i lag, but they tell me to gtfo ): what shud i do?
the_green_man
08-02-2008, 12:04 PM
well if u_sf dose and disides to put up a ping limiter for 1 the ping limiter would be set at bout 175 liek the others... and there would have to be a other sf coming(ppl in england might be happen i thyink the next sf is going ur way)
but ijji. will not block other countries till the next sf comes out and other ppl can play it also.
the_green_man
08-02-2008, 12:11 PM
well.. i dont think thats possible.. cause me as an singporean player in Asia Pacific.. i paid good money on this game.. more than $200 in my own country's currency.. if they plan to do that.. i intend on a refund on all the money i spent...
and u could demand ur money to be refunned but it would not happen just cuz u spend ur own money on this dame dose not mean u should be refunded if they block u fomr playign this game i could understand if the blocked u rate after u bought some g coins but they r not going to refun ther money u spent over a month before they blocked u and even if they did put up the limter they would give every one a heads up if ur not from norht america (but then again they give u a month to a week notice that they r putting the ping limiter up and ur going to be blocked y would u buy g coins then to wast money and on hoping u get refunded)
u need to hitnk thigns though u had fun when u weast ur money on the game and if they put up the ping limiter do not think u will get ur moeny back...
u should know they were going to put it up in the first place they do not have a date played (idk if they r putting 1 up) but they r not at fault the person who picks to put money into a game that they have a chance of being banned from the server is to blame
sclek
08-02-2008, 01:44 PM
I live really far from California and I don't lag (42 ping usually unless I download stuff while I play). Lag can also be from the person's computer. It could be a slower type of computer.
adz161202
08-02-2008, 01:45 PM
great post explained a few fings 4 me, thanx =)
Zhuzhuwugui
08-03-2008, 05:27 AM
yeah. i only hav to say tat.
if its F2P
dunt expect much as a game like SF
the cost of running the server its high already.
a server based one would means more sacrifices wuld hav tuhh be made.
\
try to keep ur cool ;]
its justaa game. enjoy the nice moments.
forget the bad;s.
JohN1994
08-03-2008, 06:05 PM
Guys , shouldnt complain about Lagshots cause SF wouldnt run if they didnt get the profit from around the world.