View Full Version : Racist or Abusive names >BAN<
tristanb
02-06-2008, 01:52 PM
I know im speaking for the majority of people. I am sick that people use abusive or racist names in a VIDEO GAME! Why not play for fun? Its so weird that people do get banned for hacks but for racisme not which is even a bigger issue and is illegal in most country's!
Comments I get from 12 year olds:
"Dude its a joke relax!"
"STFU NOOB I CHOSE MY OWN NAME"
"I GASSS U" aka responce of someone named Adolf Hitler
etc..
Comments I get from wise people:
"I agree people shouldn't make such names"
"Geez what a bunch of wakko's"
etc...
Its just redicilous that people may play with names like Adolf Hitler! Then u think, oh there wont be someone named like him! oh no? here screenshot:
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1607/gunz117fu2.jpg
its Redicilous that Ijji let this kind of people play! I hope admins will do something about this and let abusive names like:
Black people name which gets **** happily!
Hitler
etc
Getting banned.
I hope you guys agree with me!
wrong_turn
02-06-2008, 01:57 PM
I know im speaking for the majority of people. I am sick that people use abusive or racist names in a VIDEO GAME! Why not play for fun? Its so weird that people do get banned for hacks but for racisme not which is even a bigger issue and is illegal in most country's!
Comments I get from 12 year olds:
"Dude its a joke relax!"
"STFU NOOB I CHOSE MY OWN NAME"
"I GASSS U" aka responce of someone named Adolf Hitler
etc..
Comments I get from wise people:
"I agree people shouldn't make such names"
"Geez what a bunch of wakko's"
etc...
Its just redicilous that people may play with names like Adolf Hitler! Then u think, oh there wont be someone named like him! oh no? here screenshot:
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1607/gunz117fu2.jpg
its Redicilous that Ijji let this kind of people play! I hope admins will do something about this and let abusive names like:
Black people name which gets **** happily!
Hitler
etc
Getting banned.
I hope you guys agree with me!
racism isnt even about names. its about how you mentally take them in. i get called cracker, honky, mr. boo, etcetc.
and it doesnt affect me cause its just a name. names dont offend people, the people thinking about them do that. they offend themselves more then the names do.
voodoo13
02-06-2008, 02:02 PM
Hitler rox!!!.....JOKING....he was a good man :D
_Aes_Sedai_
02-06-2008, 02:05 PM
racism isnt even about names. its about how you mentally take them in. i get called cracker, honky, mr. boo, etcetc.
and it doesnt affect me cause its just a name. names dont offend people, the people thinking about them do that. they offend themselves more then the names do.
Yet terms such as cracker are called racial slurs for a reason.
I agree that people with names like that should be banned. No reason exists as to why it would be acceptable for someone to use racial slurs as names.
In addition to slurs, names shouldn't be aloud to be stuff like Hitler. That is unreasonable when you look at what that name means to many people. I would like to think that any person with respect for others would avoid something so potentially inflammatory.
voodoo13
02-06-2008, 02:09 PM
Uhh, since when? Hitler was a mass murderer. (Which apparently is what America is becoming)
Seriously, America is going down the drain...no offence to those who aren't re.tards.
yeah...u pick on all those poor IRAQ People.......u just want oil at low prices........u don't give a sht about democracy and freedom of those poor guys.........some romanian soldiers died fighting for ur country :cry:
one of them was paralised from neck down and he should've get some money for an operation that would've fix him from the american guvernment ....but his still paralised for 18 months :grrr:
_Aes_Sedai_
02-06-2008, 02:10 PM
Let's not get in a fight people. Politics doesn't belong on this thread.
Mexhomie
02-06-2008, 02:15 PM
they talk 2 sum trash
but cant say it in real life..
darn internet!
lol jp
wrong_turn
02-06-2008, 02:15 PM
Yet terms such as cracker are called racial slurs for a reason.
I agree that people with names like that should be banned. No reason exists as to why it would be acceptable for someone to use racial slurs as names.
In addition to slurs, names shouldn't be aloud to be stuff like Hitler. That is unreasonable when you look at what that name means to many people. I would like to think that any person with respect for others would avoid something so potentially inflammatory.
Please do not use vulgar or profane language(Cracker).
Please do not use vulgar or profane language(honky).
Please do not use Vulgar or profane language(adolf).
Please do not use vulgar or profane language(black).
do any of those seem practical to censor? or ban people for?
there is a thing called freedom of speech, and as long as its not a censored word and isnt breaking any rules, people are free to use them and say them in names and such. you might not like it and it might not seem far but since when has life or anything else been fair.
voodoo13
02-06-2008, 02:19 PM
(HOLY CRAP, SHOOT ME I SAID HOME SKILLIT BISQUIT!!!)
what does HOME SKILLIT BISQUIT mean??:doh:
wrong_turn
02-06-2008, 02:20 PM
what does HOME SKILLIT BISQUIT mean??:doh:
maybe some type of pancake?
_Aes_Sedai_
02-06-2008, 02:23 PM
Please do not use vulgar or profane language(Cracker).
Please do not use vulgar or profane language(honky).
Please do not use Vulgar or profane language(adolf).
Please do not use vulgar or profane language(black).
do any of those seem practical to censor? or ban people for?
there is a thing called freedom of speech, and as long as its not a censored word and isnt breaking any rules, people are free to use them and say them in names and such. you might not like it and it might not seem far but since when has life or anything else been fair.
Freedom of speech does not mean you should say whatever you feel like. It is cliche, but the saying goes with freedom comes responsibility. Those who can not handle it should not have it.
I never mentioned fair did I? Would it be fair of me to not allow people to say words I don't like. OF course it wouldn't, but that is what I am suggesting isn't it?
ryouko
02-06-2008, 02:33 PM
Ok voodo. If you agree that <insert most hated person on earth> is a good man. Your jsut as low as anybody else who is racist.
2)If you go tow ar it's your choice. You don't see israely soldiers begging fr money when they die in wars R.I.P. In israel once yu finish high school, at 18 you get drafted to training grounds for preperations.
People like you make em sick, how can u say he's a good man. You wouldn';t like it if i elemiminated your race form the face of the earth would you.. Exctly..so think before you say such stupid statements.
On-topic: The reason they don't ban them is because they don't know they exist until someone reports them. So take the picture, and there should be an email for such acts.
wrong_turn
02-06-2008, 02:34 PM
Freedom of speech does not mean you should say whatever you feel like. It is cliche, but the saying goes with freedom comes responsibility. Those who can not handle it should not have it.
I never mentioned fair did I? Would it be fair of me to not allow people to say words I don't like. OF course it wouldn't, but that is what I am suggesting isn't it?
actually that is EXACTLY what it means, the only check it has on it is it cant spread violence or turn into violent conflict, and it cant break any rules or laws placed on speech. see banning hate words and such is a pretty sentiment and id be all for it, but this is reality. you cant stop it. you can go up to a mexican and call him a beaner, or go up to a police officer and say you dont like police and they cant really do much until you break a law. if you say that while under arrest its being beligerant(sp?) to an officer. your right about responsibility but the fact of the matter is, we dont really know what responsible is.
its not something you can stop. no matter how responsible a country is.
Courl
02-06-2008, 02:41 PM
I don't see why you would listen to those kids. Seriously, this is a discussion about a few kids thinking it's OK to swear like that. I don't care if they do, they'll get their judgement sooner or later, but probably later.
I myself am against racist or abusive names, however.
SomeGuy
02-06-2008, 02:52 PM
They should have their character deleted but not banned...
_Aes_Sedai_
02-06-2008, 04:07 PM
actually that is EXACTLY what it means, the only check it has on it is it cant spread violence or turn into violent conflict, and it cant break any rules or laws placed on speech. see banning hate words and such is a pretty sentiment and id be all for it, but this is reality. you cant stop it. you can go up to a mexican and call him a beaner, or go up to a police officer and say you dont like police and they cant really do much until you break a law. if you say that while under arrest its being beligerant(sp?) to an officer. your right about responsibility but the fact of the matter is, we dont really know what responsible is.
its not something you can stop. no matter how responsible a country is.
I disagree. We can stop it. I speak of her at ijji not in the world as a whole. I am not innocent enough to think that people would stop because I asked them too. IJJI would be well within thier rights to either block the usage of slurs and names, or ban the people who use them. Their ToS is clear about racism. I said that people who can't handle the responsibility should not have it, which means that IJJI should take away some of the freedom that they had previously allowed.
"actually that is EXACTLY what it means, the only check it has on it is it cant spread violence or turn into violent conflict, and it cant break any rules or laws placed on speech"
Wait what is this? Freedom with limitation, which is exactly what I was talking about? hm...
Kelly Boo
02-06-2008, 04:13 PM
They sometimes change the names of your character for you.
Ex: Friend had an IGN called Time2Rape
Changed to Time2Rap
He hates rap.
tristanb
02-06-2008, 04:17 PM
lawl that change is funny but serieus... all people play this! you cant agree with names like this I think a special email adress should be made against those names! so that the names will be changed!
Chaustome
02-06-2008, 04:29 PM
Name abuse is all opinion. I don't see anything wrong with someone naming their character Adolf Hitler. Maybe someone Jewish would take this offensively, but most people wouldn't. Why?
Famous quote here: A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
I will explain this for those that are poor at comprehending. Basically, it means the names mean nothing [though there are other meanings that I am aware of]. If I interpreted the name "Rusty" as being offensive, should it be banned? By your logic, yes. By your logic, I could say that EVERY SINGLE NAME IS RACIST and then you would have to ban everyone right?
That is why I chose the second choice on your poll. "Racism" is in the eyes of the beholder. A great example for this is the N word. Please make a more convincing argument than "HITLER IS RACIST" if you want to convince anyone with a decent amount of intelligence.
EDIT: To the ignorant trying to argue this with freedom of speech and other bull****************, you only have your rights until you infringe upon the rights of others. Just making you aware of this.
devilnflesh2
02-06-2008, 05:11 PM
Hitler rox!!!.....JOKING....he was a good man :D
LOL>
HE KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FOR WHITE SUPREMECY
gg
Shadow_The_Hamste
02-06-2008, 06:09 PM
Okay, let's try to sum up EVERY point brought up here.
-People keep throwing "Freedom of speech" into this. First off, freedom of speech IS restricted to certain things, such as inciting a riot. Calling someone a racist name to provoke them into rioting, or just shouting "Fire!" in a crowded room IS againts the law in America. But ijji isn't America, they can say wether or not they want freedom of speech or not.
-Secondly, Hitler used a minority as a scapegoat to gain support for a war to conquer lands he had no right over. He took it so far as to heartlessly murder them to gain a fearing controll over those who opposed him. He was ANYTHING but a great man.
-Thirdly, Guus (Courl) is absoultly right when he says these brats who think people will love them for making racist names such as bleebity bleep or f-bomb this, or "kill all <minority here> that." Honestly, these people are just 12 year old losers who are outcasted in their schools for being weird and they seek attention by carving into their forheads. Pay no attention to them, and they will leave, searching for a new room to annoy. Just kill him, and don't even regaurd him with a simple "Owned."
-Fourthly, look people outside of America who think they know EVERYTHING about the Iraq war. Incase you haven't noticed, under 20% of our county is actually supporting the darned thing. Please stop saying "Romania is so much better at warring, we fight for a reason" or "Star wars ROCKS more than your war!" We don't care. We all don't support it, so stop being even more racist yourself by thinking every American is a fat-kill all people who aren't our religion-war toating pig. We aren't. So please stop the anti-American racism PLEASE?!
-My personal opinion; GunZ has enough problems with the style wars (D-Style, E-Style, K-Style. Join one, and spend the rest of your days convincing yourself that you're better than everyone else who doesn't use YOUR style.) Do we honestly need to have more people get into bitter fights over skin color, religion, or ethnicity? That's a BIG no. I personally think offensive names should be DELETED and sent back to lvl 0, and after 3 attempts, ban the account.
There, better? All clear? Hope so.
Matayas
02-06-2008, 06:12 PM
u get banned for like 3 days when u get reported for anapropriate(cant spell it :/ ) words
Gotosleep
02-06-2008, 06:19 PM
WADDUP MATAYAS GUESS WHO IT IS xD
btw cool poll...
My friend had am IGN called fck*u*ijj
Changed to love*u*ijj
lol matayas knows xD
Shadow_The_Hamste
02-06-2008, 06:21 PM
My name got changed... Was supposed to be Shadow_The_Hamster. Notice the R? Too long, so it got changed. That or I'm an idiot and didn't notice I couldn't type an extra letter. Either way, I wanted to feel special and post about my name being changed.
Aww to hell with it, I'll just admit it, it's a bump. BUMP!
Shia840
02-06-2008, 06:22 PM
"Adolf Hitler" is not a racist name. He's a significant figure in history and saying it isn't offensive. Even glorifying him really isn't to some extent. Racist and abusive names, should, in fact, be banned, but offensive is really a matter of opinion. If IJJI wants to step in and do something about it, so be it.
ryouko
02-06-2008, 06:47 PM
"Adolf Hitler" is not a racist name. He's a significant figure in history and saying it isn't offensive. Even glorifying him really isn't to some extent. Racist and abusive names, should, in fact, be banned, but offensive is really a matter of opinion. If IJJI wants to step in and do something about it, so be it.
Umm..in;t glorifying the devil ilegal in some states? So shouldn't glorifying some 1 equal t the devil be ilegl as well?
_Aes_Sedai_
02-06-2008, 08:35 PM
Shadow I want to plus you, but I can't XD.
Shia840
02-06-2008, 08:39 PM
Umm..in;t glorifying the devil ilegal in some states? So shouldn't glorifying some 1 equal t the devil be ilegl as well?
You can't illegalize glorifying a religious idol. It's called seperation of church and state...
Anywho, I don't recall any Christian religions directly stating Hitler(a.k.a. Hister Nostrafail) was the devil. Moving along...
_Aes_Sedai_
02-06-2008, 09:26 PM
You can't illegalize glorifying a religious idol. It's called seperation of church and state...
Anywho, I don't recall any Christian religions directly stating Hitler(a.k.a. Hister Nostrafail) was the devil. Moving along...
You realize that separation of church and state was an idea put forth by Jackson, and that it is not really in the Constitution. The only reason it has to be followed right now is because The Supreme court decided it would be fun for them to make laws instead of interpret the constitution.
Truth be told, the entire idea could be challenged using the non-infringement section of the Constitution.
Chaustome
02-06-2008, 09:49 PM
Okay, let's try to sum up EVERY point brought up here.
-People keep throwing "Freedom of speech" into this. First off, freedom of speech IS restricted to certain things, such as inciting a riot. Calling someone a racist name to provoke them into rioting, or just shouting "Fire!" in a crowded room IS againts the law in America. But ijji isn't America, they can say wether or not they want freedom of speech or not.
-Secondly, Hitler used a minority as a scapegoat to gain support for a war to conquer lands he had no right over. He took it so far as to heartlessly murder them to gain a fearing controll over those who opposed him. He was ANYTHING but a great man.
-Thirdly, Guus (Courl) is absoultly right when he says these brats who think people will love them for making racist names such as bleebity bleep or f-bomb this, or "kill all <minority here> that." Honestly, these people are just 12 year old losers who are outcasted in their schools for being weird and they seek attention by carving into their forheads. Pay no attention to them, and they will leave, searching for a new room to annoy. Just kill him, and don't even regaurd him with a simple "Owned."
-Fourthly, look people outside of America who think they know EVERYTHING about the Iraq war. Incase you haven't noticed, under 20% of our county is actually supporting the darned thing. Please stop saying "Romania is so much better at warring, we fight for a reason" or "Star wars ROCKS more than your war!" We don't care. We all don't support it, so stop being even more racist yourself by thinking every American is a fat-kill all people who aren't our religion-war toating pig. We aren't. So please stop the anti-American racism PLEASE?!
-My personal opinion; GunZ has enough problems with the style wars (D-Style, E-Style, K-Style. Join one, and spend the rest of your days convincing yourself that you're better than everyone else who doesn't use YOUR style.) Do we honestly need to have more people get into bitter fights over skin color, religion, or ethnicity? That's a BIG no. I personally think offensive names should be DELETED and sent back to lvl 0, and after 3 attempts, ban the account.
There, better? All clear? Hope so.
+Rep for a good post.
Some questions though. What can be considered offensive? Many minorities use the N word very casually, so should it be banned? At my brother's school, they banned the word "Jew" because they were using it as an insult [completely ridiculous, but true]. Does that mean it should be banned?
Also, Shia has an excellent point. Adolf Hitler isn't racist or offensive to a lot of people. Yes, he was a bad man, but how does that make him offensive? If someone named their character George W. Bush and I said that I Bush did worse things to America than Hitler did to the Jews, should that person's character get banned?
This is a matter of opinion and morals. I truly think a person's name in a video game isn't that important.
Thahanos
02-06-2008, 10:13 PM
I don't see race.
Those who decide to make fun of certain events or groups of people just make my time easier sorting the mature and the ignorant.
voodoo13
02-07-2008, 01:55 AM
LOL>
HE KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE FOR WHITE SUPREMECY
gg
yep....isn't it cool?? :D:lolz:
Thananos
02-07-2008, 03:46 AM
nice quality DOOOOOOOD
Shadow_The_Hamste
02-07-2008, 10:39 AM
+Rep for a good post.
Some questions though. What can be considered offensive? Many minorities use the N word very casually, so should it be banned? At my brother's school, they banned the word "Jew" because they were using it as an insult [completely ridiculous, but true]. Does that mean it should be banned?
Also, Shia has an excellent point. Adolf Hitler isn't racist or offensive to a lot of people. Yes, he was a bad man, but how does that make him offensive? If someone named their character George W. Bush and I said that I Bush did worse things to America than Hitler did to the Jews, should that person's character get banned?
This is a matter of opinion and morals. I truly think a person's name in a video game isn't that important.
Yes, names aren't that important. If they were, there would be way less people with numbers-for-names. But names that say "<minority here>ShouldDie" or "GasAllThe<Minority>" should be deleted.
Personaly, I don't like the whole "N-word" situation myself. I don't think ANYONE has the right to say it, let alone a single race. The whole idea that who you are or how you were born intitles you more rights to vocabulary is obsurd to me. But that's just my opinion, I mean cmon, I'm just a kid who trys my best use common sense, what do I know?
Basically, it comes down to the tone of the name. If it's something like "<Minority Here> Pride" or something that says you're proud of that, then it's fine. But if the name was intended to describe that persons hate for another person (Such as "KillAll<Minority Here>") - yes, even individuals such as Hitler or Bush (Or if the name is of someone as to express that person's hate for another) - then it should be deleted and set back to lvl 0.