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Ptonjalken
03-22-2007, 08:50 AM
Hey, Pton here again.

We all know that excessive typing or unnatural placement of the hand can lead to things like Carpul Tunnel Syndrome (CTS). So with that in mind dont you think that Kstyle or any other style with excessive and fast combinations of buttons over and over again could promote the chance of CTS?

Now dont get me wrong, im not bashing Kstyle or anything. (I promote all methods of GunZ gameplay). Anyways ive heard from certain people of wrist problems and CTS(not completely sure) from playing GunZ alot. Now i doubt theres any real reports of anyone getting full on CTS, but there are many people who cant even turn their wrists 360degrees anymore due to excessive use of Advanced Kstyle moves.

Now just because you can move your wrist doesnt mean its damaged. Alot of people have no clue whatsover that their wrist is damaged or that you have symptoms of CTS. The only real ways to realize it is to take a long break (months) off of excessive typing to feel the difference of no Wrist pain and Wrist pain (thats if you arent into the advanced stages of CTS or any other disorder that is.)

If you do have any pains or problems rotating your wrists or anything like that, you should probably take a break and see a doctor.

Not everyone is subject to this either, this is more directed to people who play GunZ and use Advanced Kstyle multiple hours a day. Some people also are more prone to get CTS then other people, so that can be a factor also. As mentioned by FortreGSX you would probably have a lesser chance to be affected if you had regular exercise.

Im just wondering if anyone has had problems? and their thoughts on this subject. :D

My View:

I believe excessive styles like Kstyle can help people get CTS. Also how people arange their hand can help big time or not. (Like hovering over keyboard.. or laying on the edge of the keyboard etc).

Lain
03-22-2007, 08:52 AM
Dont worry your very late on this it was disscused many years ago but i have played gunz for over 2 years never had the slitest bit of CT.

Ptonjalken
03-22-2007, 08:56 AM
Dont worry your very late on this it was disscused many years ago but i have played gunz for over 2 years never had the slitest bit of CT.

Doesnt matter if it was discussed years ago. Many of the people who are on these forums were most likely not prominant posters on GZF or whatever forum your talking about.

JadeFox
03-22-2007, 08:57 AM
It can create CTS........ But so far, it hasn't.

ForteGSX
03-22-2007, 08:59 AM
Dont worry your very late on this it was disscused many years ago but i have played gunz for over 2 years never had the slitest bit of CT.

I as well have been playing this game of upwards of 2 years and not once have either of my hands shown signs of CTS. I guess you have to really balance playing on a keyboard and doing actual excercise to aviod this problem.

Courl
03-22-2007, 08:59 AM
I think it can create CTS, though I've never had any problems with my fingers.

Also, my hands don't get tired no matter how long I play.
[Note: Gunz is addicting.. anyone with a brain gets my point]

Btw, ForteGSX, I don't think that's necessary.

Ptonjalken
03-22-2007, 09:01 AM
I as well have been playing this game of upwards of 2 years and not once have either of my hands shown signs of CTS. I guess you have to really balance playing on a keyboard and doing actual excercise to aviod this problem.

Good point, another factor is if you give your body regular exercise also. Someone who is athletic or fit would most likely have less chance then a couch potatoe. :doh:

Courl
03-22-2007, 09:03 AM
He did note exercises..

fire23150
03-22-2007, 09:10 AM
I dotn use a style, i just aim and shoot any type of styler.

Courl
03-22-2007, 09:12 AM
Huh?

:ot:

Jian
03-22-2007, 10:08 AM
I hope not, sounds serious.

Personally, I doubt any real injury could come from Gunz. Unless you 24/7 advanced k-style uber button bash super saiyan ninjah powar.

Courl
03-22-2007, 03:06 PM
.. Meh.. I've come to a conclusion..

This is stress relieving for my tender fingers.

Nayruu
03-22-2007, 03:27 PM
CTS is cause by repetitive motions of the hand, so anything to do with with a keyboard can cause it

Darkobra
03-22-2007, 03:35 PM
I can't really see it happening if you're careful. My old mouse gave me a nasty case of CTS, especially playing games like Diablo 2, where you had to click to move and attack. My newer mouse has a lighter mouse button. My keyboard doesn't require much pressure either. It's all about speed and accuracy over pummelling the keyboard to the ground.

Malmoney
03-22-2007, 03:38 PM
A Cuzin Of Mine Had A Carple Tunnel From This Game A Few Months Ago. I Was Laughing. Just Dont Want It Happening To Me.

Anonymous
03-22-2007, 03:58 PM
If ur scared don't play o.O

ryouko
03-22-2007, 04:01 PM
i ay it sdoes infouence..not 100% but it can influence and soemtimes u will get CTS, ive gotten it once :=p: but once in 2 years..so its a very rare case msot of teh time ull get cramps but thats also rare maybe once or twice a week..i got it on my right hands(thats my mosue hand though but maybe it was from soemtihing else i dunno)

Ptonjalken
03-22-2007, 06:36 PM
i ay it sdoes infouence..not 100% but it can influence and soemtimes u will get CTS, ive gotten it once :=p: but once in 2 years..so its a very rare case msot of teh time ull get cramps but thats also rare maybe once or twice a week..i got it on my right hands(thats my mosue hand though but maybe it was from soemtihing else i dunno)

Once in 2 years isnt 'little' Its bad to get once a life. lol.

firesofhades
03-23-2007, 10:33 AM
first of no1 can turn their wrists for 360 degrees (accually ur wrist cant turn at all, but im not gonna teach bioligie here)

cts is the condition when ur median nerve is compressed at the WRIST.
whatever u do whit ur fingers doesnt matter.
1 hour k-styling brings just as much risk as 1 hour of normal typing

so NO, k-style has nothing to do whit cts

--------edit---------

the pain u do get from k-styling is just myalgia (muscle pain). just like muscle pain in ur legs the day after PE, it goes away in 2-3 days

firesofhades
03-23-2007, 10:42 AM
I hope not, sounds serious.

Personally, I doubt any real injury could come from Gunz. Unless you 24/7 advanced k-style uber button bash super saiyan ninjah powar.

love the way u said that especially since the "24/7" is the only thing in that sentence that has anything to do whit cts :P


btw yeah i kno i double posted thats because this post is inrelevant to my previous post

Courl
03-23-2007, 10:43 AM
It's called irrelevant.

And still you should use the edit button.

Azian
03-23-2007, 12:47 PM
i use K-style but ive nvr actualy thought of getting CTS from it..

ƒatality
09-04-2007, 07:21 PM
thread revived :D

SomeGuy
09-04-2007, 07:31 PM
that scares me XD im damaging them as i type this message.

MGSmaster1
09-04-2007, 07:48 PM
i bet somebody has already gotten it D:

p0l4rmaggie
09-04-2007, 08:23 PM
Like others ive been playing for a long time without getting any serious problems with my wrists. If I try my best for 30 mins non stop, my left wrist and fingers will be sore but it wont last more than that day itself (usualy 30 mins after I stop). I always thought it was because I do some weightlifting that my wrists could endure without being damaged but its probably not even that.

MGSmaster1
09-04-2007, 08:50 PM
thats pretty sad if you play until your hands hurt, ever think of taking a break?

Wraiths_Darkshinobi
09-04-2007, 09:39 PM
Hey, Pton here again.

We all know that excessive typing or unnatural placement of the hand can lead to things like Carpul Tunnel Syndrome (CTS). So with that in mind dont you think that Kstyle or any other style with excessive and fast combinations of buttons over and over again could promote the chance of CTS?

Now dont get me wrong, im not bashing Kstyle or anything. (I promote all methods of GunZ gameplay). Anyways ive heard from certain people of wrist problems and CTS(not completely sure) from playing GunZ alot. Now i doubt theres any real reports of anyone getting full on CTS, but there are many people who cant even turn their wrists 360degrees anymore due to excessive use of Advanced Kstyle moves.

Now just because you can move your wrist doesnt mean its damaged. Alot of people have no clue whatsover that their wrist is damaged or that you have symptoms of CTS. The only real ways to realize it is to take a long break (months) off of excessive typing to feel the difference of no Wrist pain and Wrist pain (thats if you arent into the advanced stages of CTS or any other disorder that is.)

If you do have any pains or problems rotating your wrists or anything like that, you should probably take a break and see a doctor.

Not everyone is subject to this either, this is more directed to people who play GunZ and use Advanced Kstyle multiple hours a day. Some people also are more prone to get CTS then other people, so that can be a factor also. As mentioned by FortreGSX you would probably have a lesser chance to be affected if you had regular exercise.

Im just wondering if anyone has had problems? and their thoughts on this subject. :D

My View:

I believe excessive styles like Kstyle can help people get CTS. Also how people arange their hand can help big time or not. (Like hovering over keyboard.. or laying on the edge of the keyboard etc).


You sound like a concerned parent.

Someone_Else
09-04-2007, 10:20 PM
I'm sure K-style can cause CTS.
I'm sure K-stlye has caused hundreds of cases of Repetetive stress syndrome.
RSS is caused by rapidly and/or repeately performing the same motion over an over, you will notice that is also how you get CTS.
However RSS can happen anywhere on the body and it's really just a pain whenever you use the affected joint.
I have RSS in my left wrist from a combination of typing and GunZ playing, however I don't have it in my wright wrist because I don't use it as often as I use my left one.
I suppose serious cases of RSS will act like *Arthritis - Sound it out I have no clue how to spell it*
Making it difficult and very painful to use a certain joint, but I think then it becomes called CTS when it affects your wrist like that.

strikerbolt
09-05-2007, 12:54 AM
skipped all the posts. I dont feel like reading that much
In theory, it could cause CTS. Then again, a number of things could. If you are feeling the pain you should stop doing ANY activities that could cause such strain and consult a doctor.

njbooda
09-05-2007, 06:36 AM
any exessive wear on the hands can lead too CT

Addiction
09-05-2007, 01:07 PM
Hey, Pton here again.

We all know that excessive typing or unnatural placement of the hand can lead to things like Carpul Tunnel Syndrome (CTS). So with that in mind dont you think that Kstyle or any other style with excessive and fast combinations of buttons over and over again could promote the chance of CTS?

Now dont get me wrong, im not bashing Kstyle or anything. (I promote all methods of GunZ gameplay). Anyways ive heard from certain people of wrist problems and CTS(not completely sure) from playing GunZ alot. Now i doubt theres any real reports of anyone getting full on CTS, but there are many people who cant even turn their wrists 360degrees anymore due to excessive use of Advanced Kstyle moves.

Now just because you can move your wrist doesnt mean its damaged. Alot of people have no clue whatsover that their wrist is damaged or that you have symptoms of CTS. The only real ways to realize it is to take a long break (months) off of excessive typing to feel the difference of no Wrist pain and Wrist pain (thats if you arent into the advanced stages of CTS or any other disorder that is.)

If you do have any pains or problems rotating your wrists or anything like that, you should probably take a break and see a doctor.

Not everyone is subject to this either, this is more directed to people who play GunZ and use Advanced Kstyle multiple hours a day. Some people also are more prone to get CTS then other people, so that can be a factor also. As mentioned by FortreGSX you would probably have a lesser chance to be affected if you had regular exercise.

Im just wondering if anyone has had problems? and their thoughts on this subject. :D

My View:

I believe excessive styles like Kstyle can help people get CTS. Also how people arange their hand can help big time or not. (Like hovering over keyboard.. or laying on the edge of the keyboard etc).
You'd be surprised. This game won't get you Carpul Tunnel Syndrome. YET, this game(click) (http://www.openttd.com/) can.

MGSmaster1
09-05-2007, 01:45 PM
if you watch some of the k-styler tut videos on utube, i think id get CTS in like 3 minutes


i d-style, alot easier on your hands :D

Bawxers
09-05-2007, 06:00 PM
Get one of those gel pads and put it by your keyboard, so your wrists are at the same level as the keys...

That other guy said it was the movement of the wrists, just lay your wrists on the pad, and you don't really have to move. Especially if you have longer fingers and don't use 12345 to K-Style :P

jaysion
09-13-2008, 07:56 PM
Fish-net stockings

Xerotch
09-13-2008, 07:59 PM
lol ...................

Xerotch
09-13-2008, 08:02 PM
y do i got a pink box under the number of postes i made is it bad or good i know this comment dont belong here but does anyone know?

Zealot of Aiur
09-13-2008, 08:04 PM
so how do i get the gold coins?? i r confused

LastRevolver
09-14-2008, 09:36 AM
wuuuut?? haha you sounded like somekind of doctor

Farala
09-14-2008, 04:13 PM
I do have CT, in the very early stages though, or rather i had it, i took a 2 month break and it just went away, came back, never showed up again yet, it wasnt confirmed by a doctor but by my parents who, my mother used to be a nurse, now she trains people to be doctors/paramedics, my dad is a firefighter and paramedic, from what i told them they said i had CT and should stop doing what i was doing for a while and it should go away.

I have not read all the pages but the main post of this thread, ways to avoid getting it and or delay it from coming, is simple but will cost a pretty penny, and take some getting used to again.

What i did was make right click block (i was lazy has no relations to CT on this note), i got a mouse with 2 side buttons, i made one weap 1 and the second weap 2, reload is shift for me, q and e are item 1 and 2, scroll up is sword and down is weap 2 (for rs and such). This has delayed my CT from coming back again, but im pretty sure that since im evenly distributing the pressure, itll be worse when it does come back and in both hands.

Now a speculation on why it happens, its not so much the typing,or the buttons, its the way you have your wrist on the desk/table. Remember the teachers in keyboarding biching you to keep your wrists off the table?? theirs a reason behind their madness, when you put too much pressure on your (forgot the name of the bone but it sends signals to your brain), it will get smaller and take longer to send signals, and the Sharp burning pain, that appears in your dominant hand, is in my eyes, signals hitting the muscles that are blocking its path and sends a cannot find the destination signals through out your hand which is that sharp burning pain that you feel.

I can make that signal cannot be found assumption is that my dad had a stroke such and such, and half his bodies nerves died out, so he gets a constant migrane, i mean 24/7. and when he explained it to me, he said that his nerves are trying to say that their here and no one is awnsering them so it turns into pain.

I could be entirely wrong in what i said but its some knowledge ya know
If we cant get rid of all the brats might as well educate them.

lilman2pimp4u
11-01-2008, 07:45 PM
bringing back this sweet thread, NO HOMO

gameplaya15143
11-01-2008, 09:59 PM
My wrist hurts if I don't play GunZ.

TsubaMenos
11-01-2008, 11:18 PM
This would be on the news if it were true.

And this is very old :O

Ninthsaint
11-02-2008, 02:30 AM
but there are many people who cant even turn their wrists 360degrees anymore

OHMAIGAWD, you can turn your wrist 360°!~!??!?! I hope thats WITH your whole arm helping! else ur a cherno :O cus that's not natural!

anyway, my guitar teacher can't show you the palm of his hand when his arm is straight x] cus he plays guitar so much x]

Zealous
11-02-2008, 07:38 AM
What about other styles? Do they give CTS?

bhawb
11-02-2008, 11:05 AM
Hey, Pton here again.

We all know that excessive typing or unnatural placement of the hand can lead to things like Carpul Tunnel Syndrome (CTS). So with that in mind dont you think that Kstyle or any other style with excessive and fast combinations of buttons over and over again could promote the chance of CTS?

Now dont get me wrong, im not bashing Kstyle or anything. (I promote all methods of GunZ gameplay). Anyways ive heard from certain people of wrist problems and CTS(not completely sure) from playing GunZ alot. Now i doubt theres any real reports of anyone getting full on CTS, but there are many people who cant even turn their wrists 360degrees anymore due to excessive use of Advanced Kstyle moves.

Now just because you can move your wrist doesnt mean its damaged. Alot of people have no clue whatsover that their wrist is damaged or that you have symptoms of CTS. The only real ways to realize it is to take a long break (months) off of excessive typing to feel the difference of no Wrist pain and Wrist pain (thats if you arent into the advanced stages of CTS or any other disorder that is.)

If you do have any pains or problems rotating your wrists or anything like that, you should probably take a break and see a doctor.

Not everyone is subject to this either, this is more directed to people who play GunZ and use Advanced Kstyle multiple hours a day. Some people also are more prone to get CTS then other people, so that can be a factor also. As mentioned by FortreGSX you would probably have a lesser chance to be affected if you had regular exercise.

Im just wondering if anyone has had problems? and their thoughts on this subject. :D

My View:

I believe excessive styles like Kstyle can help people get CTS. Also how people arange their hand can help big time or not. (Like hovering over keyboard.. or laying on the edge of the keyboard etc).


i d and k-style and no, it doesn't cause CTS, i have played probably too many video games all my life and have never gotten CTS, although if you say regular excersize will help prevent it then im ok, also does playing the piano help you not get it?

turtlepow@r
11-02-2008, 11:19 AM
I thnik it depends if your azn or not.

themonkkk
11-02-2008, 11:49 AM
fingeryoga.com will teach you ways to prevent cts and to decrease your warm up time and it will also increases blood flow to ergoenous areas of the fingers allowing you to achieve the ultimate k/dgasm lol jk but srysly doing finger yoga will make ur fingers warmer, b/c of blood flow is easier and then you can preform better. lol, preform.

ALTF4
11-02-2008, 01:50 PM
My wrist hurts if I don't play GunZ.
Same. <3

Aderal
11-03-2008, 01:57 PM
Please go read up on Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.

"Repeated motions performed in the course of normal work or other daily activities can result in repetitive motion disorders such as bursitis and tendonitis. Writer's cramp - a condition in which a lack of fine motor skill coordination and ache and pressure in the fingers, wrist, or forearm is brought on by repetitive activity - is not a symptom of carpal tunnel syndrome."(http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/carpal_tunnel/detail_carpal_tunnel.htm)

Excessive k-style will not result in Carpal Tunnel.

Mathim
11-03-2008, 03:12 PM
I dont think anyone has gotten CTS from gunz, if anything its made me much mroe resistant to it.

Gottabe
11-17-2008, 11:31 AM
I dont get it...need help

shinoroku
11-17-2008, 01:39 PM
Ive been playing this game for 4 years and I have not gotten carpal tunnel lol

iCraven
11-18-2008, 07:14 PM
The thing about CTS though... Is that it actually comes back if you continue to over-strain your wrists =.=

It's like a whole 'nother paradigm of pain...

ICEHOUND
11-18-2008, 08:14 PM
Dont worry your very late on this it was disscused many years ago but i have played gunz for over 2 years never had the slitest bit of CT.

same i don't gunz can cause it half the time your play/chating withppl

Teh_AK
11-19-2008, 04:33 PM
I always take a rest after 30 mins of playing, and do some A.W. Surveys that give me money. (You evaluate websites or do surveys for money.)
http://www.**************/HomeMain.cfm?RefID=febtiger A great website.

I never got CTS because of the breaks I take between gameplay. Everybody should take rests between 30 mins of constant, fast key pressing and lots of crazy movement in the screen.

vibhas
11-20-2008, 01:32 AM
Your hands can feel slightly tired, but i don't think ive got this, WHEN I RARELY feel any pain, it goes away in 2 mins, and i mostly don't play for more than 1~2 hours, and usually on weekends, + i don't think many teenagers have CTS, i know i dont.

mrlou13
11-20-2008, 07:47 PM
i say k style can cause you extreme cts.. so stop it and spray like us e-stylers!!:=p:

Strpwn123
11-21-2008, 05:57 AM
I got pain on my Left index finger..

Mercanary
11-22-2008, 12:24 AM
Hey, Pton here again.

We all know that excessive typing or unnatural placement of the hand can lead to things like Carpul Tunnel Syndrome (CTS). So with that in mind dont you think that Kstyle or any other style with excessive and fast combinations of buttons over and over again could promote the chance of CTS?

Now dont get me wrong, im not bashing Kstyle or anything. (I promote all methods of GunZ gameplay). Anyways ive heard from certain people of wrist problems and CTS(not completely sure) from playing GunZ alot. Now i doubt theres any real reports of anyone getting full on CTS, but there are many people who cant even turn their wrists 360degrees anymore due to excessive use of Advanced Kstyle moves.

Now just because you can move your wrist doesnt mean its damaged. Alot of people have no clue whatsover that their wrist is damaged or that you have symptoms of CTS. The only real ways to realize it is to take a long break (months) off of excessive typing to feel the difference of no Wrist pain and Wrist pain (thats if you arent into the advanced stages of CTS or any other disorder that is.)

If you do have any pains or problems rotating your wrists or anything like that, you should probably take a break and see a doctor.

Not everyone is subject to this either, this is more directed to people who play GunZ and use Advanced Kstyle multiple hours a day. Some people also are more prone to get CTS then other people, so that can be a factor also. As mentioned by FortreGSX you would probably have a lesser chance to be affected if you had regular exercise.

Im just wondering if anyone has had problems? and their thoughts on this subject. :D

My View:

I believe excessive styles like Kstyle can help people get CTS. Also how people arange their hand can help big time or not. (Like hovering over keyboard.. or laying on the edge of the keyboard etc).

Give him Credit people. Hes trying to help you out and ur bashin him CMON sad thing is hes right. That's right HES RIGHT!!!! no matter what you say i bet 70% of us K-stylers prolly already have it. You say u don't feel pain yet LMAO PLEASE When your an OLD fart you will regret not listening to him

**HINTS**
Every half hours or so take a break stretch those arms!!! ( also help you move better :) )
Use proper Posture of back
Don't lean on teh keyboard holder thingy LMAO

DeathAzn
11-22-2008, 01:06 AM
i dont know anyone whose gotten CTS from gunz, but i guess u can