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GM_Delerium
04-25-2007, 11:02 AM
You've been waiting for quite some time. Well it's finally here!
First Gunbound Guild Competition! (http://forums.ijji.com/showthread.php?t=16705)

Let the hashing begin!

UPDATE: The Guild Competition has been changed. Guild Competition Changes (http://forums.ijji.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=20486)

Coco
04-25-2007, 11:10 AM
Yay finally =D

artyped
04-25-2007, 11:18 AM
Lets Get It On!!!!

gnuoc
04-25-2007, 11:20 AM
phosho lets get it on!!!!

ANBU
04-25-2007, 12:23 PM
avatar on???

MrN1cky
04-25-2007, 12:35 PM
what does hashing mean delerium haha

TomCru1se
04-25-2007, 12:37 PM
Holy...WOW
JUST WOW Ya know Ive been pretty honest up to now So I hope you Ijji people can handle some ciriticism...
Why In the world would you make it avatar On. Theres already enough unfairness with aimbotting cash users as it is and now its avatar on. Im sorry for this rant but seriously

GM_Delerium
04-25-2007, 12:49 PM
Holy...WOW
JUST WOW Ya know Ive been pretty honest up to now So I hope you Ijji people can handle some ciriticism...
Why In the world would you make it avatar On. Theres already enough unfairness with aimbotting cash users as it is and now its avatar on. Im sorry for this rant but seriously

The idea was to make it so even low level users would have a bit more of a chance to compete by being able to purchase ijji Coin items (since they wouldn't have enough Gold to buy good Gold items). Requires a bit more strategy too - you have to decide which items would be best to use and which users should use which items.

TomCru1se
04-25-2007, 12:51 PM
Couldnt you make one avatar on and one avatar off?
The Last grandPrix was like that

Saffron
04-25-2007, 01:15 PM
I know why you guys make it avatar on... $_$

TENTIKALS
04-25-2007, 01:53 PM
I know why you guys make it avatar on... $_$

Touche :king:

Errorsol
04-25-2007, 02:18 PM
Great event idea, though I'm dissapointed that there isn't a 1v1 option.

Skrrsh
04-25-2007, 02:44 PM
what if beginners have no gold, and can't spend the money on avatars, then they absolutely have no chance against pros who have more skills and can afford the right avatar with gold. AVATAR OFF WOULD BE MORE FAIR since good gold avatar doesn't effect the game play.

MrN1cky
04-25-2007, 07:40 PM
beginners also have MUCH less skill so it doesnt make that much of a diff

i see where ur coming from tho

o0krazie0o
04-25-2007, 07:46 PM
*coughijjionlycaresaboutmoneysoshutupandlivewithit orleavecough*


Lol seriously how is that fair, the beginners may not wish to spend money on pixels and want to do it anyways. Being a beginner they would have no gold to buy avatar items. And wtf man? The people with avatars would be like 100% more powerful than the people who dont. So why do it?

Money I bet, anyways.

Saffron
04-25-2007, 08:52 PM
*coughijjionlycaresaboutmoneysoshutupandlivewithit orleavecough*



lolz...... :lolz:

TomCru1se
04-25-2007, 08:54 PM
Not to mention 90% of Beginners arent in guilds

Kumo
04-25-2007, 09:22 PM
The idea was to make it so even low level users would have a bit more of a chance to compete by being able to purchase ijji Coin items (since they wouldn't have enough Gold to buy good Gold items). Requires a bit more strategy too - you have to decide which items would be best to use and which users should use which items.

Actually that makes no sense, im sorry to criticize but there are people who are under 18, who don't have access to a credit card and can't buy ijji coins for this event, and its pretty obvious, people who have the money to pay 40$ for an aimbot also have money to buy ijji coin avatars with stats. And you expect people who are lower ranked/ skilled to buy avatar to have an edge but most people are all using the same avatar, which bring us to square one, which is avatar off. I think also some people are in poverty and can't spend an extra 20$ from their welfare check, does this make gunbound revolution a game for rich people only? I myself have avatar on items, so im just speaking on the behalf of many users who don't have such liberties. Please give me a reply and consider the situation, because really, if everyone buys and gets stat avatars, its the same as ava off zone.

NiN
04-25-2007, 09:33 PM
Im glad is avatar on. most aimbot users are avatar on players. so this is kinda fair.

zgbnewbiez
04-25-2007, 09:43 PM
Im glad is avatar on. most aimbot users are avatar on players. so this is kinda fair.

You like playin aimbotters? O.O. My aimbot alert is going off!!! :busted: I hate that it's avy on though. I have the best possible suit you can possibly get in avy off (witch head, napo body, pet ad, and robot X) but its still unfair. Cash users got 50 50 50 set. And what your saying delerium is in no way true. Beginners that spend cash probably have a main or their dads REALLY big wallet bcuz who would spend cash on a game they barely started playin o.O. If they have a main they proly wouldnt want to win the stuff on their nub acc so they would play on their main. Even if beginners did have the cash to spend on a game they just started on they wouldnt kno wut to spend it on unless they got a pro friend OR A MAIN. If they got the best avy suit their still lackin the skill. I could proly beat a REAL beginner with a 50 50 50 suit just cuz I've been playin longer. No matter what it'll nvr be fair for them lol.

Dnerd2
04-25-2007, 09:55 PM
It's not at all fair... the 40 year old pedophile-game-freaks who buy ridiculous amounts of ijji coins just for a game have the best possible advantage... I know ijji is desperate for money since they just started but geez, on an event which determines a guild ranking and status why the injustice? Why not at least 2 servers for the Grand Prix???

Dnerd2
04-25-2007, 09:57 PM
http://gunbound.ijji.com/guildLeagueRanking.nhn?
is that page glitched or something? Or is it just not working because it's midnight?

TiXnY
04-25-2007, 09:57 PM
why cant we make it avatar off? its way more fair for beginners

TiXnY
04-25-2007, 09:58 PM
that site won't work after 24 hours

Saffron
04-25-2007, 10:00 PM
http://gunbound.ijji.com/guildLeagueRanking.nhn?
is that page glitched or something? Or is it just not working because it's midnight?

you have to wait for them to update it :thumbsup:

Dnerd2
04-25-2007, 10:02 PM
you have to wait for them to update it :thumbsup:

kk, ty, it was the first time I saw that page. Did they just add it today?

TiXnY
04-25-2007, 10:03 PM
kk, ty, it was the first time I saw that page. Did they just add it today?

yeah......

Saffron
04-25-2007, 10:04 PM
kk, ty, it was the first time I saw that page. Did they just add it today?

I assume, yes, I didnt notice it before.

BabyGotSkill-Momo
04-25-2007, 11:12 PM
Another possible reason why they put it on an Avatar On server is because they might want more people to move to server 8. Lately, I've been seeing more diverse players in server 8. To be honest, I believe that it is unfair to a point, and it could be unfair to those who are at a much lower rank (under golden axe) who have a disadvantage. However, What chances are that a lower ranked person who just started gunbound will really get anywhere? I'm not trying to be offensive by stating that, but it is somewhat common sense.

Anyway, if most of the events are avatar off, whats the point of having avatars then? Might as well just take out stats of all the avatars and just sell a few of them.

Anyway, I'm an avatar on player, and its hard to understand why people would play the game in avatar off with avatars that look good. So you save enough money and buy more avatars. What are they going to be used for later? They have attack, defense, etc, but whats the point of playing and saving up so much to buy an avatar just for looks? Sure you collect them all but you refuse to use the stats that are implimented into that avatar? It doesn't make any sense for me.

Anyway, I know there are many other reasons why people play avatar off, such as its more fair or some other reason. I state my point of view. For anyone who plays in avatar off and has different reason. Please do share. Its better to hear other opinions other than my own.

Skrrsh
04-25-2007, 11:25 PM
can u guys confirm this....
the gp and gold that we earn during the grandprix... do we get it or is it just for the event.

BabyGotSkill-Momo
04-25-2007, 11:26 PM
can u guys confirm this....
the gp and gold that we earn during the grandprix... do we get it or is it just for the event.

I would believe you keep it. Considering you did play. o_O

Skrrsh
04-26-2007, 12:26 AM
thanks, yeah it makes sense now that i read it over.

Cruzader
04-26-2007, 12:49 AM
The idea was to make it so even low level users would have a bit more of a chance to compete by being able to purchase ijji Coin items (since they wouldn't have enough Gold to buy good Gold items). Requires a bit more strategy too - you have to decide which items would be best to use and which users should use which items.

It's supposed to be an event to determine the most skilled guild, not the one that waste more gold/ijji coins on avatars. There isn't much strategy on avatar set-ups.
Plus, an awful lot of the players are not ijji coins users (Specially low ranked ones), and I highly doubt they'd bother buying ijji coin avatars just for the guild event; they wouldn't be able to top the high ranked players (And about every Ruby Wand + has at least a good ijji coin avatar...) due to their lack of skills, anyways.

PastaChef
04-26-2007, 01:47 AM
The events ijji makes are all lame and focus on making money...i pretty much hate every event we had so far...good job admins on making nonsense events.:grrr:

TiXnY
04-26-2007, 02:30 AM
u GMs should make the grand prix server be server 5&6 cuz noone is playing there so those 2 servers can be a grand prix server. and please i wasted all my gold and ijji coins just for this event
i wanted to save my gold but now i hv to use them
why cant we have the event "Missions" like GBWC?

MaStAViC
04-26-2007, 03:44 AM
It's supposed to be an event to determine the most skilled guild, not the one that waste more gold/ijji coins on avatars. There isn't much strategy on avatar set-ups.
Plus, an awful lot of the players are not ijji coins users (Specially low ranked ones), and I highly doubt they'd bother buying ijji coin avatars just for the guild event; they wouldn't be able to top the high ranked players (And about every Ruby Wand + has at least a good ijji coin avatar...) due to their lack of skills, anyways.
Ah, but Ijji is a business, did we not forget? From a business perspective, this event was made so that players would purchase coin-only avatar items so that they can successfully compete in the event.

If Ijji honestly wanted to be fair, the event would be avatar off so that everyone can compete and not have their avatar - or lack of good avatar - hinder their abilities and skills.

I don't see Ijji changing this, of course, because this event will potentially make them a lot more money. I'm a psychology and business management major at my university (double major), and I very well understand Ijji's (somewhat) ulterior motive. Good business strategy, to be honest.

Victor Ly

PumpkinKid
04-26-2007, 06:54 AM
i was about to bring some of my GIS friends and come myself too, but if its ava on... i guess it will be pointless if we run from every cash user with our noob accounts ._.''

our GPrix in GIS just finnished today... it was avatar off and everyone was satisfied. its a competition of skills, not wallets =/ i really hope ijji will soon realise, that GPrix on avatar on is a mistake... they still have a chance to change it

Tr0my13
04-26-2007, 07:56 AM
Delerium...
Per the ijji rules:
Dear Gunbound Fans,

Welcome to our first Guild Competition! Are you ready to get your game on?

The top three guilds at the end of the competition will win a number of prizes, including a customized rare Avatar item! Each member of these guilds will receive one of these customized items. However, since these items need to be specially created, they will not be immediately available. We anticipate these items will become available in June.

*Please note: Guild members found to have violated the ijji.com Terms of Service or Rules of Conduct will subject their account to prompt disciplinary action. Guilds associated with said members will be immediately disqualified. If disqualified guild(s) were to receive prizes, those prizes will be forfeited and granted to the next guild in line (next highest rank).

Good luck to everyone who participates in these events, and remember to have fun!

Dont you think it rather "ODD" that of the top 4/7 players listed today in the lead for the Guild Prix have been on the abuse list???? No Wonder Die Guild is in the lead????
(seinfeld) AvePhoenix81 abuse list 4-17-07
(jimbo68) Libertad abuse list 4-5-07 and 2-13-07
(straifer) Maravilla abuse list 4-5-07 1-5-07 AND 12-20-06
(3bandit) xMIZAx abuse list 3-14-07
CHECK their GP/GOLD loss for those dates, Thus the reason i suggested past abuser NOT be allowed to participate. Hard to believe they play fair!
ADDITIONALLY this guild should be checked for legitimate play. By ijji rules the guild should be disqualified if they have used hacks/aimbots rite???

Coco
04-26-2007, 08:31 AM
Im sure it means during the event period

Apocalypse
04-26-2007, 09:34 AM
Damn this event is whack.

Sunshine
04-26-2007, 04:18 PM
Aw I think its kinda fun, sure it will be really hard to win, but doesnt anybody want a challege? I had a fun time playing in the prix because all those ice are just so darned hard to kill. :p

Aemily
04-26-2007, 04:23 PM
why cant we have the event "Missions" like GBWC?

Yeah, I was so looking forward to that.

TomCru1se
04-26-2007, 04:41 PM
lol server 4 had 50 people earlier..
Noone playing there anymore..Only Die and Royalz are

MaskedNinja
04-26-2007, 05:48 PM
Everytime i play the guild competition, it gives me an error message and kicks me out of the game, before it even starts. It has happened 5 times already and its really frustrating. please help me.

If i have to make my team lose, at least let me play and lose.

Rakedros
04-26-2007, 08:18 PM
Everytime i play the guild competition, it gives me an error message and kicks me out of the game, before it even starts. It has happened 5 times already and its really frustrating. please help me.

If i have to make my team lose, at least let me play and lose.

=.= this happened to me...

canvasq
04-27-2007, 01:40 AM
avatar on or off That' s fine. But what I cannot understant is the cheating in server 4. You guys should seriously take a look at it...EVENT IS NOT FAIR. There is no point in playing against botters, We always lose.

MoVeOfGoDdEss
04-27-2007, 03:54 AM
That is not the right thing to do to make money !!
it seems not a big deal but some ppl will just think u are trying to get $$ from the playes

MoVeOfGoDdEss
04-27-2007, 04:01 AM
after the first day of trying the Guild war !!
make me feel that is point less to keep playing !!
also a lot of people start to thing this event is not fun at all
u should feel ashamed about the unsuccess event

Exorsima
04-27-2007, 09:54 AM
My guild also thinks it's a pointless competition. Only those with excessive amounts of cash (i.e. ijji coin) have any chance of doing well in this competition since it's avatar on.

First match, we faced three ice mobiles, with basically the best possible avatars (napolean, witch, archangel). They basically dualed the whole match and never missed a shot. You can easily tell they were aimbotters simply because they are dragons/mages and when they dual they hit the land just in front and above them very often.


At the time of writing, only 10 people are in the room now.

Goes to show how "awesome" this event is....

Acepaytoday
04-27-2007, 12:44 PM
hi just wondering isn't it like the top 10,000 players get rare avatars? so wouldnt that mean that everyplayer who competed would get a rare avatar??? some1 pleze answer my question

Gameboii
04-27-2007, 06:06 PM
First GBNA guild competion is a failure:

1. Aimbot Users + Avatar On server = Owned any guild

2. Guilds that have less people can't stand any chances of winnings due to lack of avatars and less games played.

3. more ... you can fill in the blanks...but Guild Competition with Ijji is pointless

kyle381643
04-27-2007, 06:33 PM
id say u gotta make sum anti hak thing, or ban hackers all together b4 making events, cuz most of the gud events will b killed by hackers, and when u ban them, ban them once, dun give them like 3 chances o.0

Party Crasher
04-27-2007, 08:42 PM
Everyone hates the event because most people have no cash avatar, make the guild compition avatar OFF.
last time u made the prix it started avatar on and u changed it to avatar off.
CHANGE IT TO AVATAR OFF plz so other pple can win

zgbnewbiez
04-27-2007, 08:52 PM
Everyone hates the event because most people have no cash avatar, make the guild compition avatar OFF.
last time u made the prix it started avatar on and u changed it to avatar off.
CHANGE IT TO AVATAR OFF plz so other pple can win

Can you really say everyone? lol. I bet you Royalz, Die, and Origin ain't complaining. I definitely aint (and im not a cash user either). I mean look at the prize list. Tons of winners if they participate. Dont speak for everyone plz. Use most. It's more appropriate.

Conundrumer
04-27-2007, 10:12 PM
This event fails.
Really hard.

xCha0sDrag0n
04-28-2007, 12:12 AM
mostly when u play the grand pix u play against die or origin sigh...

LifeDraGoOn
04-28-2007, 07:34 AM
Can you really say everyone? lol. I bet you Royalz, Die, and Origin ain't complaining.

Ya not much complaining, just some hard core reporting. =PP

Tr0my13
04-28-2007, 08:37 AM
ijji NEEDS to get their programs FIXED NOW. If ijji doesnt have a plan to prevent aimbotters from controlling the event THEN DONT SUBJECT the guilds to UNFAIR CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!!!! I suggest guilds boycott the Prix till ijji can get their act together. This Guild Prix only makes our win rates go down our guild suffer undue loss, and PROMOTING aimbotters. IJJI needs to put the guild prix on HOLD so they can figure out what they are doing!

Saffron
04-28-2007, 01:10 PM
IJJI needs to put the guild prix on HOLD so they can figure out what they are doing!

They already figured out what they are doing... making $$$$$$$$$ ;)

LordGypsy
04-28-2007, 01:51 PM
whats with the F1 control???
i mean sometimes i see a white crosshair on someone.
what is that???

LacusClyne
04-28-2007, 03:59 PM
Think its for detecting aimbots...

artyped
04-28-2007, 04:19 PM
no it shows room master

iCrazyMonkey
04-29-2007, 09:34 AM
http://i12.tinypic.com/48f3ivp.jpg
the members told me this during the competition

ArdellGough
04-29-2007, 05:45 PM
ijji NEEDS to get their programs FIXED NOW. If ijji doesnt have a plan to prevent aimbotters from controlling the event THEN DONT SUBJECT the guilds to UNFAIR CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!!!! I suggest guilds boycott the Prix till ijji can get their act together. This Guild Prix only makes our win rates go down our guild suffer undue loss, and PROMOTING aimbotters. IJJI needs to put the guild prix on HOLD so they can figure out what they are doing!

Hi, I recently started playing GB again after a long break and I see that botting is problem... My guild stopped playing the Grand Prix room because there's no chance. And if ppl can buy bots fro 40 dollars like someone said in a previous post, or if they are just able to get by the hack protect then it's a pretty pointless comp. The winner of this comp will be a botter if Ijji doesn't monitor the situation... and that's sad. The best gunbound guild won't even win...

Shakugan
04-29-2007, 06:06 PM
if ijji monitered all the packets there r getting for this game 24/7 just to catch hackers..i dun think this game is gonna be free anymore lol

u have any idea how much work that could take

unless they made a programme for it =/

SirusIsGod
04-29-2007, 06:27 PM
ijji NEEDS to get their programs FIXED NOW. If ijji doesnt have a plan to prevent aimbotters from controlling the event THEN DONT SUBJECT the guilds to UNFAIR CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!!!! I suggest guilds boycott the Prix till ijji can get their act together. This Guild Prix only makes our win rates go down our guild suffer undue loss, and PROMOTING aimbotters. IJJI needs to put the guild prix on HOLD so they can figure out what they are doing!

I agree totally as well. Game isnt even fun playing against aimbotters. I.e ..Die
guild

ShineUBR
04-29-2007, 10:43 PM
In GBWC there was this guild called Triumph that won the grand prix there and Die is just a GBNA counterpart of that guild. There was also this guild called Unity which ran from every pro guild (quit box) it faced and only vsed nub guilds.

SirusIsGod
04-30-2007, 02:48 PM
whats with the F1 control???
i mean sometimes i see a white crosshair on someone.
what is that???


I was told they disabled f1 cause it was used for a hack button of some sort.

KOA15
05-01-2007, 07:22 AM
The guild competition is pointless if they aimbot. Meaning guilds like DIE who obviously aimbot. Im not saying all of them do but most of them who play in the guild competition are aimbotting. It is just impossible to figure out those graphs and calculations within the first 5 secs. of there turn and hit you dead on dualing from the other side of the map with like 20 something wind.

LordDevotion
05-01-2007, 06:11 PM
The idea of this event is great, but theres to many problems. To many aimbotters and avatar on makes it bad also. The people who has the cash avatar has too much of an advantage of gold avatar. The event is suppose to be fair right? Plus guilds with 30-50 members dont stand a chance against 90-100 members. Throughout the event i think it'd be better if the max number of guilds were 20-30 so everyone would have a chance and the event be more competitive.

Coco
05-01-2007, 06:13 PM
But then wat abt the guilds that were already more then 20... theyd have to kick ppl or make a new guild?

LordDevotion
05-01-2007, 06:42 PM
Lols it was just a suggestion, but yea splitting a guild with 100 people into 5, 20 each would be more competitive then having a 100 man guild against 10's 20's 30's so on. And btw Karen howed u get ur sig its nice >_>

Bostich
05-01-2007, 07:48 PM
splitting will be unfair for those who join the guild to play with their friends or family and is put with people they dont even know or ever played with before.

I suggest put a limit on games that can be played in one day and have admins check games during the day and check for any suspicious acts.

by the way Softnyx closed their guild event after 2 weeks for the same reasons...and right now are checking for any abnormal activities during the event

xCha0sDrag0n
05-01-2007, 08:26 PM
this comeptition is already mess up and no more fun in to it no more

ShineUBR
05-02-2007, 12:55 AM
It is just impossible to figure out those graphs and calculations within the first 5 secs. of there turn and hit you dead on dualing from the other side of the map with like 20 something wind.

It's not that impossible if you use forms you know what approximately is the power needed then you use change angle wind form or something

Coco
05-02-2007, 05:26 AM
Ed someone made it for me - -

LifeDraGoOn
05-02-2007, 09:23 PM
It is just impossible to figure out those graphs and calculations within the first 5 secs. of there turn and hit you dead on dualing from the other side of the map with like 20 something wind.
It's not that impossible if you use forms you know what approximately is the power needed then you use change angle wind form or something

That person was reffering to users hitting 2 screens away core dual in 1-5 seconds meaning they highly unlikely use forms, not exactly that forms are impossible.

Punk'd
05-03-2007, 11:08 PM
it got canceled I thought

Tr0my13
05-04-2007, 12:07 PM
Gratz to all thoz players who were diligent in their efforts to support ijji and provide details and information regarding the guild prix and illegit play/player. I speak for myself and all the Tr0G3N guild members your pursuit for a fair and enjoyable gaming environment is greatly appreciated! No need for specific names, these ppl are very aware im referring to them and their efforts! TY:thumbsup:

Cozeath_1
05-04-2007, 12:35 PM
Gratz to all thoz players who were diligent in their efforts to support ijji and provide details and information regarding the guild prix and illegit play/player. I speak for myself and all the Tr0G3N guild members your pursuit for a fair and enjoyable gaming environment is greatly appreciated! No need for specific names, these ppl are very aware im referring to them and their efforts! TY:thumbsup:

are u happy???? your guild plaed less than 300 games you guys had no shot on winning it anyways..

xXGravEXx
05-04-2007, 08:27 PM
I think people stopped playing once a certain guild started decimating the competition by hitting core every shot. Would have been a better event without aimbots or avatar on. I'm happy with the new event. :clap: to the GMs

Bostich
05-05-2007, 03:23 PM
guerilla events are more fun anyways

MrExploiter
05-06-2007, 11:25 AM
I didn't like how the event was set up personally, being a cash user myself I was only equal to those who used cash. Members on my team that didn't have cash avatars were at severe disadvantages. I think the next event it should be set in avatar off, and instead of having random teamates you should be able to pick the three you want on your team.

hypeMAN~jones
05-19-2007, 05:01 PM
Omfg This Event Was A Crap Shoot I Could Not Even Play The Event I Had A Guild But It Just Did Not Work

xXGravEXx
05-19-2007, 07:07 PM
Your guild didn't play at the same time?

heiheipig
06-16-2007, 11:37 PM
i suggest next year that it could be any thing not just score 3 on 3,cuz me and my friend were playing but there was only two of us and cuz there is hardly any people there most people dont go there so there is hardly any people there most people dont go there so there is hardly any people there most people dont go there so there is hardly any people there most people dont go there so there is hardly any people there most people dont go there so there is hardly any people there most people dont go there so there is hardly any people there most people dont go there so there is hardly any people there most people dont go there so there is hardly any people there most people dont go there so there is hardly any people there most people dont go there so there is hardly any people there most people dont go there so there is hardly any people there most people dont go there so there is hardly any people there most people dont go there...

and thats why people dont play the event and thats why u had to cut it off after ur hard work and noone got to enjoy it.

sorry for the spelling mistakes,i was in a rush

irvin230
06-17-2007, 01:01 PM
ya i agree with heiheipig

Annihilation
06-19-2007, 12:49 PM
aw it's over. I wanted to try that competition.

ChickenBalls
06-28-2007, 03:02 PM
i know its going to go wrong

heiheipig
07-03-2007, 07:54 PM
and we never even got to try...