gun glitch

[cornflower]

GM's should patch the glitch were players are allowed to beat the shooting delay with shotty. Using the glitch allows them to kill other in about1-2 hits and thats not fair to the other players. Also whats the point in having a delay time where people use that glitch to work around it?

[uncoChinToTheMax]

wow this is so funny

[Namaru]

/signed.

Sadly, it will never get fixed because Maiet is lazy and everyone who plays GunZ is a tool and will quit if they actually have to use something besides a shotgun.

I can only hope they balance things out with the new bounty weapons.

But like everyone here will post, "if you can't beat them, join them". Thats how everyone thinks around here, and thats why everyone you see abuses this glitch.

You know it's completely imbalanced when you see EVERYONE in Clan Wars and Duels using it.

[Thahanos]

/signed.

Sadly, it will never get fixed because Maiet is lazy and everyone who plays GunZ is a tool and will quit if they actually have to use something besides a shotgun.

I can only hope they balance things out with the new bounty weapons.

But like everyone here will post, "if you can't beat them, join them". Thats how everyone thinks around here, and thats why everyone you see abuses this glitch.

You know it's completely imbalanced when you see EVERYONE in Clan Wars and Duels using it.

1) That's not true, I lugged a rocket to CW and made great scores.
2) It's not that cheap really. If you RS, you still need to consider distance, accuracy, and timing.

If I flip someone and RS them, they blame Kstyle
If I flip someone and spray them to death, they blame sprayers.

Evidently, it's not time to care about public opinions when you're in a skill based game, because everything done still gets a moan and groan about anyways.

[Jangan]

then what will happen to the people who cant aim? theyll have nowhere to go.

[Namaru]

1) That's not true, I lugged a rocket to CW and made great scores.
2) It's not that cheap really. If you RS, you still need to consider distance, accuracy, and timing.

If I flip someone and RS them, they blame Kstyle
If I flip someone and spray them to death, they blame sprayers.

Evidently, it's not time to care about public opinions when you're in a skill based game, because everything done still gets a moan and groan about anyways.


GunZ has very few long-distance areas, and i've been facing shotguns from distances alot lately. They STILL hurt when they are fired constantly like people do, and you aim less because of the spread. You can still 3-4 shot someone from long range with shotguns, although luck is a key factor.

And it's great you broke out of the ordinary of the CW scene, but my point still stands. The population in CW using shotguns is above 75%, and thats a very rough number. Why do they use shotguns? Because obviously if they didn't they would get owned.

I don't call this game skill based at all, but everyone else will disagree with me for the fact that it might harm their the delusional size of their e-peens.

[skeetskeet]

I do disagree with you on somethings, for instance, I believe the majority of the users use shotguns because they can and do a great deal of damage at close ranges. It's really hard to complain about the weapons people use because there is a variety of weapons that can beat a shotgun you just need to be able to aim. I find that its the people that can't aim that depend on the usual remarks(Noob,Spammer,etc).

Back on topic:

Its pretty well known that using glitches has became part of playing the game for alot of people. I don't think ijji will change the delay of the guns because a few of the people don't like it. Why would they ruin a good thing?

[Muroku456]

Since rss and rhs is used regularly for clan wars, I doubt the staff would fix it since it would most likely make players who pay for g coins quit.

[Namaru]

Since rss and rhs is used regularly for clan wars, I doubt the staff would fix it since it would most likely make players who pay for g coins quit.

Because those players are complete tools who wouldn't be able to kill anyone with aimless shotgun spraying.

Really how many Duels/DM do I get into that has some idiot who wastes BOTH clips of their breakers trying to hit me, then run around spamming BF/DBF hoping they hit me, then call me a noob when I kill them?

Why is everyone using the same style? Why is everyone using the same weapons?

Because it's obviously overpowered. Killing someone in one second flat compared to every other weapon in the game? Really. You can fire more pellets out of a shotgun then an MG in a fraction of the time.

Why do you think shotguns do massive damage with a huge delay? For BALANCE.

[Muroku456]

Because those players are complete tools who wouldn't be able to kill anyone with aimless shotgun spraying.

Really how many Duels/DM do I get into that has some idiot who wastes BOTH clips of their breakers trying to hit me, then run around spamming BF/DBF hoping they hit me, then call me a noob when I kill them?

Why is everyone using the same style? Why is everyone using the same weapons?

Because it's obviously overpowered. Killing someone in one second flat compared to every other weapon in the game? Really. You can fire more pellets out of a shotgun then an MG in a fraction of the time.

Why do you think shotguns do massive damage with a huge delay? For BALANCE.

I think everyone is using the same style because it is a trend. Killing somebody with MGs are just as useless as breakers.

I have to agree with your last comment. Never thought of it that way o.o.

[flamin2]

its not going away deal with it. Its part of kstyle and if u took kstyle out gunz would be boring and would go down hill

[toastofdoom]

GM's should patch the glitch were players are allowed to beat the shooting delay with shotty. Using the glitch allows them to kill other in about1-2 hits and thats not fair to the other players. Also whats the point in having a delay time where people use that glitch to work around it?

They already did that once

5,000+ players quit.

Too bad. live with it

I quote GM_Devilito (or one of the older GMs):

"You know the old saying, if you cant beat em, join em"

and that rains over all.

[MGSmaster1O1]

GM's should patch the glitch were players are allowed to beat the shooting delay with shotty. Using the glitch allows them to kill other in about1-2 hits and thats not fair to the other players. Also whats the point in having a delay time where people use that glitch to work around it?

i'm digging the name

"crackakilla"


why be racist?

[Namaru]

They already did that once

5,000+ players quit.

Too bad. live with it

I quote GM_Devilito (or one of the older GMs):

"You know the old saying, if you cant beat em, join em"

and that rains over all.

I already posted this, including the quote.

Second, 5,000 is a small number of people for any game.

Third, more players quit this game because of the problems with balance then stay playing. If anyone watches videos of GunZ on youtube, they see 16 players flying around with swords spamming shotguns.

I highly doubt thats the image Ijji wants.

[uberpawnage]

I already posted this, including the quote.

Second, 5,000 is a small number of people for any game.

Third, more players quit this game because of the problems with balance then stay playing. If anyone watches videos of GunZ on youtube, they see 16 players flying around with swords spamming shotguns.

I highly doubt thats the image Ijji wants.

5,000 isnt a small number for Gunz, recently the max number of ppl playing is around 9,000. Take out k-style and more than half of the players will be gone. Secondly, i dont know anyone who quit Gunz because of bad balance. The majority of ppl who quit Gunz say that its because of the supposedly bad community and service (which i think is bs).

[Thahanos]

5,000 isnt a small number for Gunz, recently the max number of ppl playing is around 9,000. Take out k-style and more than half of the players will be gone. Secondly, i dont know anyone who quit Gunz because of bad balance. The majority of ppl who quit Gunz say that its because of the supposedly bad community and service (which i think is bs).

I go around rooms with level 10s and 20s with my alt, and I see some of the most arrogant people ever online.

I also played a quest today, where they scammed a large skull from a noob looking for a room with pros. Disgusting.

The community is rather bad, you must admit, in many areas.

[Namaru]

I go around rooms with level 10s and 20s with my alt, and I see some of the most arrogant people ever online.

I also played a quest today, where they scammed a large skull from a noob looking for a room with pros. Disgusting.

The community is rather bad, you must admit, in many areas.

I made a post on this some time ago!

But you already know, you posted in it.

[Maelnin]

Vegemite I'm not sure how many people have quit because of the above reason, but I can say that it's one of the reasons I did. Now I'm a big fan of cheap tactics. Ask any of my friends that have played me at a first-person shooter and they'll tell you I'll use any dirty trick get an advantage. Perhaps it's for that reason that I find Gunz to be such a horribly unappealing game. Being cheap isn't an option, it's a necessity. I don't really feel that the faster pace adds anything to the game either. Don't bother arguing with me; it's my opinion. Vegemite

[uberpawnage]

I go around rooms with level 10s and 20s with my alt, and I see some of the most arrogant people ever online.

I also played a quest today, where they scammed a large skull from a noob looking for a room with pros. Disgusting.

The community is rather bad, you must admit, in many areas.

I havnt run into any of thos kind of people in a while, so i thought the community must have improved a bit. But seeing what you said i guess not. =/

[Nutz]

then what will happen to the people who cant aim? theyll have nowhere to go.

rofl funny but sad u shldnt bring up things like that just mean :busted:

on topic if u wana get rid of rs they might aswell get rid of all of k style coz thats what it is ITS ALL GLITCHESS!!!!! and some for style!!!!! n other idk xD im pure k style soo ya pppl cant play then they just run and tumble then wall cancel then spray then tuble with shotguns which seriously looks lame. =p my view

[Ian H.]

Just learn RS/RHS/RHHS/RHHSRS Like I did :P

[cornflower]

i dun mean to b racist with the name to those white ppl who know the struggle of use minorities, its only meant to b racist to those white ppl in power, such as bush who is a complete racist.

but my point is that move is a cheese move. I unloaded a full breaker 8 clip on someone and they still didnt die. K style is an ok glitch move in the sense that to beat it u gotta do 1 of the following:
1. try k styling ur self and go head on with whom ever ur facing
2. take a shottyin and keep moving and shooting
3. take a smg or rifle and move and shoot
4. throw a nade under ur feet and prey u take the person wit u

Also being that k style is a glitch move it doesnt amp up the power of the melee wep
The gun glitch should either b patched or the critical on the weps should be reduce or double the hp/shield because how many times can u recall having full hp and full shield when all of the sudden u get hit twice and u got less than 50% hp???

[Riuroky]

i though people join this game cause those glitches and now when they play they want them out? funny

[Setsuka]

/signed.

Sadly, it will never get fixed because Maiet is lazy and everyone who plays GunZ is a tool and will quit if they actually have to use something besides a shotgun.

I can only hope they balance things out with the new bounty weapons.

But like everyone here will post, "if you can't beat them, join them". Thats how everyone thinks around here, and thats why everyone you see abuses this glitch.

You know it's completely imbalanced when you see EVERYONE in Clan Wars and Duels using it.

Reading this whole topic made me sick.

One thing you should know is that GunZ is pretty much all based off glitches.

It was never meant to be played the way we are playing it now.

K-Style is all based off glitches. RS is a glitch and just because some people can't do it .. perhaps like yourself. Doesn't mean it's "unfair", it's been added as a unique skill to "k-style" in the past year or two.

Your right when you say people will quit GunZ if all the glitch fighting (K-Style) is taken away because then again it will be transformed into a totally new game.

There is no balance needed. If you find yourself getting killed often, move more. If you find yourself not being able to kill often, aim more. Every gun has it's uniqueness and can be mastered.

The most mastered weapon is the Shotgun, which is what you see used so often. People use it because of it's powerful "point-blank" range and a lot of players feel the need to fight up-close, so what better way to get rid of them than a shotgun? (the shotgun is also powerful mid-range if aimed correctly).

There are various other weapons out there that aren't as mastered as the shotgun.

Recently (during my selective playing times) I've seen various weapons being used by all players of all different skill levels and not so much the common shotgun you always see.

People are getting smarter, using various "team" combinations in clan wars etc... using a variety of weapons.

As GunZ progresses so will the mastering of these other weapons.

As of right now this is my list of what I believe to be the "most" mastered weapons in GunZ.

1) Breakers
2) Avengers (mainly used by people with great aim)
3) Revolvers
4) Rockets
5) Nico/SMG/Revolver/etc... (spray)

Hopefully ijji will be able to create new types of weapons such as Grenade Launchers differen't types of explosives, Ninja Stars etc ... which will bring a whole new fighting era to GunZ.

but until then ....

thats about it and theres my $0.02.

[SomeGuy]

If they just started patching out k-style, they would lose so many people...

Glitches is what makes gunz unique, that is a fact; deal with it...

[Namaru]

Reading this whole topic made me sick.

One thing you should know is that GunZ is pretty much all based off glitches.

It was never meant to be played the way we are playing it now.

K-Style is all based off glitches. RS is a glitch and just because some people can't do it .. perhaps like yourself. Doesn't mean it's "unfair", it's been added as a unique skill to "k-style" in the past year or two.

Your right when you say people will quit GunZ if all the glitch fighting (K-Style) is taken away because then again it will be transformed into a totally new game.

There is no balance needed. If you find yourself getting killed often, move more. If you find yourself not being able to kill often, aim more. Every gun has it's uniqueness and can be mastered.

No, I don't know anyone who has been explained how to RS and be unable to do it. It's one of the easiest moves you can use in this game next to Slash Shot. It's funny how every single time I post something negative about K-style, no matter how simple it is, everyone assumes I can't perform it.

Yes, there is balance needed. I'm a D-styler, I move around alot more then most people in terms of combat, and yes K-stylers miss or graze about 8/10 shots on me. Whats the problem? It only takes one to almost kill someone. A breaker 8 does 108 Damage per shot, thats why it only takes 2 Point-blanks on a player with all Premiums to kill someone.

I would accept this if it was just Two Shotguns, switching and shooting. It would be possible to move and dodge the second shot more often. However, your spamming 108 Damage weapons on a delay far shorter then the intended delay.

How do I know shotguns were balanced? Look at the delay, it's up there with Grenades. Guess what happens when you remove the delay? You ruin the balance of the shotgun.

Now, if this isn't overpowered at all, why does everyone use it? If shotguns were no better then an MG like people say, why use them? SMGs/MGs have almost been completely replaced by RS, because both of those are close-ranged weapons with large amounts of damage, but now they are useless because you can simply RS someone and kill them instantly. The only difference is that RS isn't explained by the game itself, and not everyone uses them.

Shotguns are used in all the areas that matter, CW and Duels. What happens if you duel without shotguns and win? Your most likely kicked. Why are there rooms that say, "No spray/Rocket/Nade=KICK".

The original trailer didn't show any of K-style, however the second revision showed nothing but K-style. I'm not saying K-style is bad, infact I rather like it. It's a mix between games like Street Fighter and a third person shooter. It's awesome, and i'd rather have it here; I just want it BALANCED.

But of course, I know nothing will ever happen and it will never be balanced. I can only hope that the new bounty weapons help balance out the damages between shotguns and other weapons, and thats the only reason I continue to play this game.

In reality, more people probably quit GunZ because of K-style and RS then stay. There are very few people up in the ranks anymore that aren't completel tools and do not abuse these glitches while still having fun and maintaining a good score. The only problem is, those people are kicked from games constantly.

I'm not saying remove the entire thing of K-style, i'm saying fix some of the stupid problems it has. They have tried patching K-style out completely before, and they have tried lowering the damages on shotguns. Both of those plans failed, but those were the two worst possible routes they could have taken.

You think i'm the only person who plays who doesn't like the imbalance in GunZ?

[Setsuka]

Here I am trying to help you considering your uneducated in this game (don't take that as an insult)

Firstly

A breaker 8 does 108 Damage per shot, thats why it only takes 2 Point-blanks on a player with all Premiums to kill someone.

That is wrong .... LoL nothing else to say to that.

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I would accept this if it was just Two Shotguns, switching and shooting. It would be possible to move and dodge the second shot more often. However, your spamming 108 Damage weapons on a delay far shorter then the intended delay.

Do you even understand/know what RS is??

From your first paragraph I can tell you don't know what your talking about.

I will suggest you read/practice and learn more GunZ before I continue to tear into your wall of text.

[Namaru]

Here I am trying to help you considering your uneducated in this game (don't take that as an insult)

Firstly



That is wrong .... LoL nothing else to say to that.



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Do you even understand/know what RS is??

From your first paragraph I can tell you don't know what your talking about.

I will suggest you read/practice and learn more GunZ before I continue to tear into your wall of text.

9 damage per pellet on a Breaker 8, 12 pellets per shot, 108 Damage.

Do YOU know what RS is? Switching and shooting isn't as fast as RS, which stands for Reload Shooting. The basic combination is Shoot, reload, switch, shoot, and it's the easiest if you use a scroll wheel mouse, in which you just hold down fire, Hit R, and scroll.

[Setsuka]

9 damage per pellet on a Breaker 8, 12 pellets per shot, 108 Damage.

Do YOU know what RS is? Switching and shooting isn't as fast as RS, which stands for Reload Shooting. The basic combination is Shoot, reload, switch, shoot, and it's the easiest if you use a scroll wheel mouse, in which you just hold down fire, Hit R, and scroll.

It takes 2 pbs and another hit to kill someone with full premiums (normally).

LoL @ you asking ME what RS is.

My original post stands.

[Namaru]

It takes 2 pbs and another hit to kill someone with full premiums (normally).

LoL @ you asking ME what RS is.

My original post stands.

It's obviously your on too high of a high horse to understand your flaws and completely ignore my points.

I'm not going to argue with a rock.

[Setsuka]

It's obviously your on too high of a high horse to understand your flaws and completely ignore my points.

I'm not going to argue with a rock.

Precisely what I was thinking.

You can bring a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink.

:bye: it's a shame.


----- EDIT ----

Sorry not ignoring your points, just haven't took the time to read past your first paragraph.

I will later tonight though.

[ryouko]

1) That's not true, I lugged a rocket to CW and made great scores.
2) It's not that cheap really. If you RS, you still need to consider distance, accuracy, and timing.

If I flip someone and RS them, they blame Kstyle
If I flip someone and spray them to death, they blame sprayers.

Evidently, it's not time to care about public opinions when you're in a skill based game, because everything done still gets a moan and groan about anyways.

The only type of noo this game is missing is:

A pro noob
Kill noob.

[uncoChinToTheMax]

u want sum fries wit that shake

[cornflower]

logically speaking, this is my opinion, being that the glitches in the game amp up a persons power, wouldnt it be safe to say that glitch abuse is no better than hacking? If so then y isnt glitch abuse a bannable offense? The GM's should play wit the players to c wha its like to get killed in 2 shots and b like" wtf hax, ur banned biatch"

[uncoChinToTheMax]

wats crackalackin crackakilla

[Pigster]

Zz... another "K-Styler" hater/whiner.
If you don't like it.. just gtfo and quit GunZ.
Go play SF or a better one.. Counter Strike or Country Strike Source - Best first playing shooter game.

[cornflower]

y dun u read a lil better, i was never whinning about k style, try lookin at the forum topic title

[Namaru]

Zz... another "K-Styler" hater/whiner.
If you don't like it.. just gtfo and quit GunZ.
Go play SF or a better one.. Counter Strike or Country Strike Source - Best first playing shooter game.

He was talking about RS. Wow your the same person who said, "BUT THIS WILL RUIN K-STYLE" when I posted about removing double shotguns, huh?

RS Isn't K-style, otherwise you lose the right to say there are only 2/3 styles.

[Setsuka]

He was talking about RS. Wow your the same person who said, "BUT THIS WILL RUIN K-STYLE" when I posted about removing double shotguns, huh?

RS Isn't K-style, otherwise you lose the right to say there are only 2/3 styles.

Reload shot is Kstyle .


You say RS is "Fire, Switch, Reload, Switch, Fire"??! and involved only "1 gun"?

wow....

I am here to try to educate you ... just seriously take it .....

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Reload shot = Shoot > Tap Reload + Switch To Different Gun -> Shoot

Involves 2 shotguns.

Can be used with 1 shotgun and another weapon such a "Rocket".


I will not explain to you anymore.

You can lead a horse to water, but you cant force it to drink.

-Set

[uberpawnage]

o_o meandme -repped me and the message was "I am spreading rep"

accidents ftl?

[DragoB]

I yust shaw the first gunz trailer ever with the original spalying style, http://video.aol.com/video-detail/gunz-original-alpha--beta/1677197452

And you can see they are yusing only rifels and swords. But you can also see a player canceling his move, so they already glitch in the beta! I also seen some other old trailers whare you massife after perforing a full sword combo. but ther removet that but let the bug in. So they made it easy to find the bugs or also called glitches and it became the new splaying style of gunz.

Ontopic.

First rs is "NOT"a k-style only move, It's can be used eny time with eny weapon, (correct me if i'm wrong) so eny one can learn and yuse it.

I can't rs but I yuse qs or quick switching shot for shotgun, refs and rockets it and dammage verry good if you can aim. So I gess crackakilla and Namaru have a point thare.

I've playet a private server for a week with over damamging rifs, smg and 240 bullets guns witch dammage like 16 dam 40 delay til 36 and 80 delay and thare the pervect mach up agains a shotgun, whant if you move slow your dead.

So the best way to rebalance gunz again is to upgrade the dammage on rifels and guns like that. So the shotguns lose thare overpouwer on mid and long range!

[uncoChinToTheMax]

Reload shot is Kstyle .


You say RS is "Fire, Switch, Reload, Switch, Fire"??! and involved only "1 gun"?

wow....

I am here to try to educate you ... just seriously take it .....

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Reload shot = Shoot > Tap Reload + Switch To Different Gun -> Shoot

Involves 2 shotguns.

Can be used with 1 shotgun and another weapon such a "Rocket".


I will not explain to you anymore.

You can lead a horse to water, but you cant force it to drink.

-Set

attn d stylrs and SS stylrs all this tme u have not ben rsing

[Namaru]

Reload shot is Kstyle .


You say RS is "Fire, Switch, Reload, Switch, Fire"??! and involved only "1 gun"?

wow....

I am here to try to educate you ... just seriously take it .....

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Reload shot = Shoot > Tap Reload + Switch To Different Gun -> Shoot

Involves 2 shotguns.

Can be used with 1 shotgun and another weapon such a "Rocket".


I will not explain to you anymore.

You can lead a horse to water, but you cant force it to drink.

-Set

9 damage per pellet on a Breaker 8, 12 pellets per shot, 108 Damage.

Do YOU know what RS is? Switching and shooting isn't as fast as RS, which stands for Reload Shooting. The basic combination is Shoot, reload, switch, shoot, and it's the easiest if you use a scroll wheel mouse, in which you just hold down fire, Hit R, and scroll.

When did I ever say it involved one gun? Didn't I post the steps, "Shoot, Reload, Switch, Shoot"? (Granted the extra fire should have been cut off to make it easier to understand I was doing RS as 1-2 not 1-2-1-2-1-2).

You even quoted me saying, "Double Shotguns" and, "If it was just two shotguns switching and shooting".

Did you even READ the sentence under it? Get off your high horse, tool. It's going straight to your head.

Also, RS isn't K-style, it has nothing to do with using block to cancel out animations, and can be used completely without a sword; D-stylers use it too.

[tailsy]

it should be kept otherwise the gameplay will just fall and become a boring old shooter full of slash shots and butterfly

and if they removed it there will be less k stylers for me to kill

[Setsuka]

I would accept this if it was just Two Shotguns, switching and shooting. It would be possible to move and dodge the second shot more often. However, your spamming 108 Damage weapon on a delay far shorter then the intended delay..

Lmfao right.

http://www.gunzfactor.com/
Peer your eyes to the right of that website.

RS isn't purely just a K-style move, but it can be incorporated and considered part of k-style.

Along with D-style and many other styles.

[tailsy]

Lmfao right.

http://www.gunzfactor.com/
Peer your eyes to the right of that website.

RS isn't purely just a K-style move, but it can be incorporated and considered part of k-style.

Along with D-style and many other styles.

lol dont even talk about styles here unless u wanna cause an argument

[Setsuka]

lol dont even talk about styles here unless u wanna cause an argument

I'm just here to point some mis-guided people into the right direction.

[tailsy]

I'm just here to point some mis-guided people into the right direction.

lol you can try, it doesnt work trust me

[Setsuka]

lol you can try, id doesnt work trust me

1 thing I will clear up I wasn't trying to strictly say RS can only be used with shotguns.

You may have took that from my previous posts.

Sorry for the misconception, but it's the easiest way to relate to RS. Especially with people who have very little - no idea about it.

-Set

[Namaru]

The only points your trying to grab on is that you think I don't know what RS is, when I didn't know I had to post paragraphs on one subject to prove I know what it is, which has NOTHING to do with the original point, Yes I know RS can be used with Revovlers and Rockets, but how many people use them for those purposes? Very little.

You have no valid, "point" and I don't understand why it's so hard for you to understand that. Your trying to twist words and try to play on the fact you think I don't know how to do something, which even if I coudln't would have no point to the future of the argument.

[Setsuka]

The only points your trying to grab on is that you think I don't know what RS is, when I didn't know I had to post paragraphs on one subject to prove I know what it is, which has NOTHING to do with the original point, Yes I know RS can be used with Revovlers and Rockets, but how many people use them for those purposes? Very little.

You have no valid, "point" and I don't understand why it's so hard for you to understand that. Your trying to twist words and try to play on the fact you think I don't know how to do something, which even if I coudln't would have no point to the future of the argument.

One thing you should know kid is that I'm not twisting ANY of your words.

They are purely quoted which is why I refuse to read beyond your first 2 paragraphs because you clearly don't know what your talking about.

I've gave this thread my $0.02 and the OP has no clue whats going on anymore ..... :no:

Again I leave you with my advice play more and read more before you end up trying to "fix/suggest" things in this game.

-Set

[DragoB]

lol you can try, id doesnt work trust me

Thats the hole topic in 1 line.

Setsuka is flaming Namaru and he try's to defent himself, This topic is becomming pointless yust like so menny other post I read:no:

[Namaru]

Thats the hole topic in 1 line.

Setsuka is flaming Namaru and he try's to defent himself, This topic is becomming pointless yust like so menny other post I read:no:

Theres no need to defend myself, because Setsuka is a troll.

[shadowninny]

not to sound mean but gunz is all about glitches if you suck to much to do them then leave

glitches is the only thing that makes this game worthwhile w/o be dumb shooter game

[cornflower]

so then would u say SF is a dumb shooter game? But i agree wit dragoB, Sg's mixed wit RS= unbalance. At least raise our AP rate or lower the critical hits, cuz how many shots can u take from an smg or rifle and still have a good amount of shield left?

[King]

Epic phail..... They did that once... they found out that fewer people played because of it.

SO DEAL WITH IT!

[Pigster]

He was talking about RS. Wow your the same person who said, "BUT THIS WILL RUIN K-STYLE" when I posted about removing double shotguns, huh?

RS Isn't K-style, otherwise you lose the right to say there are only 2/3 styles.

I KNOW HE WAS TALKING ABOUT "RS" DUMBS**T!

He doesn't like RS then go find another game. RS is a common and favourite shotgun/rev move.

[Rosenmeister]

lol noobs .... if I stun somone with massive, shoot him with Breaker 3 then until he dies.....
If he pulls out his lvl 1 Renard x2 after the massive ends he can kill me with full hp before i kill him ..... AND YOU CRY ABOUT BALANCE? Next you gonna fix Insta? Or Butterfly Step? or Wall Climb?
Stop crying! SMGs are unbalanced, do you see me crying?

[flamin2]

gunz is ded w/o k style...

[HiddenRoar]

logically speaking, this is my opinion, being that the glitches in the game amp up a persons power, wouldnt it be safe to say that glitch abuse is no better than hacking? If so then y isnt glitch abuse a bannable offense? The GM's should play wit the players to c wha its like to get killed in 2 shots and b like" wtf hax, ur banned biatch"

The glitches dont give added damage, And KGunz do these glitches too so no its not bad as hacking.

Oh and the GM's do Butterfly and Im pretty sure one of them knows how to do DBF, if horribly done, though im not sure they use SG's or got SGed during the tournaments they held. You should try reading the Blogs once in a while.

[Namaru]

gunz is ded w/o k style...

No one is trying to remove K-style, I actually like it. It's RS that we are trying to talk about, which even if you add it to that list, it still doesn't remove K-style from the game at all.

I KNOW HE WAS TALKING ABOUT "RS" DUMBS**T!

He doesn't like RS then go find another game. RS is a common and favourite shotgun/rev move.

If you knew it was RS, why did you say K-style? Oh, thats right, I already explained this.

"RS is a common and favourite shotgun/rev move" Why? BECAUSE IT REMOVES THE WHOLE ENTIRE BALANCE OF THE WEAPON DEE DEE DEE! These weapons have delays for a reason.

Sadly, it will never be removed again, and the fate of GunZ is to spam shotguns.

[flamin2]

No one is trying to remove K-style, I actually like it. It's RS that we are trying to talk about, which even if you add it to that list, it still doesn't remove K-style from the game at all.



If you knew it was RS, why did you say K-style? Oh, thats right, I already explained this.

"RS is a common and favourite shotgun/rev move" Why? BECAUSE IT REMOVES THE WHOLE ENTIRE BALANCE OF THE WEAPON DEE DEE DEE! These weapons have delays for a reason.

Sadly, it will never be removed again, and the fate of GunZ is to spam shotguns.

If they took out rs, then 4+ moves are gone. If you take rs out you might as well take every single glitch out in the game.

[Namaru]

...Your kidding me, right? I don't even have to say anything to that...

You actually call those seperate moves?

[Freedom Gundam]

isnt it called swap shot? -.-"

[devilnflesh2]

/signed.

Sadly, it will never get fixed because Maiet is lazy and everyone who plays GunZ is a tool and will quit if they actually have to use something besides a shotgun.

I can only hope they balance things out with the new bounty weapons.

But like everyone here will post, "if you can't beat them, join them". Thats how everyone thinks around here, and thats why everyone you see abuses this glitch.

You know it's completely imbalanced when you see EVERYONE in Clan Wars and Duels using it.

its been fixed :\

just every1 quit, so they UNfixed it

[Namaru]

its been fixed :\

just every1 quit, so they UNfixed it

I know devil, I posted this a few times already. They have also removed K-style before, which made people quit (And I can see why).

Double shotguns, Pop, pop......Pop, pop. That sounds reasonable, if you have good aim you can instant kill someone. not this Pop, Pop, Pop, Pop, Pop, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA reload.

isnt it called swap shot? -.-"

Thats one method of doing so, Reload shot is exceptionally quicker. It's performed by pressing Reload after each shot which makes the shot from the next shotgun come almost instantly. You can pump out more rounds then a Nico MG in a faction of the time using RS.

Swap shot is possible to evade/block the second shot in an instance like you've been massived. RS, it's completely impossible.

Massive, boom boom, nothing you can do.

[kokuzoku]

if they took out all delay glitches no one would play.

[Namaru]

if they took out all delay glitches no one would play.

I would, I wonder why i'm the only person who says that? If they did something to another gun, everyone would use that gun. If they did something special to a male character, everyone would switch genders to male like they did female.

Is everyone else who plays this game a complete tool? There was a time before RS, and people still played.

[bonelordo]

I would get along just fine without it, but it would change the way a lot of people fight.

[cornflower]

Unfortunatlly, ppl do not have the same optimism as you bonelordo, but some ppl wont like that it take them more time to kill someone without RS