Hybrid styles

[Harvydanger]

i tend to use different parts of different styles when i play, like when playing agianst a turtler instead of useing k style i will upper cut them. or when i am facing a lagger instead of using the sword at all i will just shoot them off at a distance. i will usually use a one swipe bf style when fighting a really good bf because it can throw them off gaurd at times(unless they are really good) my style is using the exploits of other styles. like when bf do muti swipes and blocks i tend to only swipe when i think i am close enough and atomaticly block for the rest of the hangtime, i hit the ground then repeat. i am not saying my style is best i am just doing what i can to get by. does anyone else have hybrid techs they can share?

[[RB]-E-Style]

I am hybrid styler. I use shotgun or MG for short distance and Rifle or revolver for long distance. I am proud to be hybrid styler, enjoying beating arrogqant amateur Kstylers.

[Nayruu]

theres really not a hybrid style if you think about it. nobody is ever constantly applying k-style moves, so doing e-style is simply just running and shooting. and d-style and k-style cant be mixed. so yep

[§DeathNinja§]

Hybird style is just where u use k style with e style no d style is mixed in. Like u can do wall cancel and switch the shotgun and shoot then switch back to sword. Basicly SS except u don't switch as fast, u see it alot in atk & def

[Harvydanger]

theres really not a hybrid style if you think about it. nobody is ever constantly applying k-style moves, so doing e-style is simply just running and shooting. and d-style and k-style cant be mixed. so yep

:idea: when you think about yes their is say you switch between bf and runin and gunning, is that not a slight mix of both styles :confused:

[Courl]

I think Hybrid style is funny to play with. xD Just not really that good for serious fights.

[§DeathNinja§]

I think Hybrid style is funny to play with. xD Just not really that good for serious fights.

i use it all the time while fighting, serious r not

[Courl]

I disagree that you can use Hybrid for any fight.

[[RB]-E-Style]

theres really not a hybrid style if you think about it. nobody is ever constantly applying k-style moves, so doing e-style is simply just running and shooting. and d-style and k-style cant be mixed. so yep

you can mix some of the Dstyle moves and Kstyle moves. Some Dstylers use two shotguns in addition to their daggers. (altho I see dagger ppl with RL a lot) Hybrid style cant use all the moves that one pure stylers use but only some in each style.

You actually made good point. Even pure Kstylers cant Kstyle moves all the time. Gunz later becomes your own style. You will eventually use all the moves from other styles that fit your fighting style and your pereference. So basically almost all players who had played long will be somewhat hybrid Stylers.

And Estyle is not just running and shooting. If you need some info about E-style, read the gunzfactor forum or ask ppl about it.

[[RB]-E-Style]

I disagree that you can use Hybrid for any fight.

You can. I actually have seen many fighters in Elite channel TDM or DM who don't use Shotguns and revolvers and who don't do RS at all but own lots of Kstylers. It all depends on the long years of experience. Skill is not limited to only Kstyle.

Don't forget Hybrid stylers do all Sword movements like DBF, BF, lauching with Dan-Step etc. Don't assume hybrid stylers are like newbie lvl5 player who never use swords. I would say the major difference between Hybriders and Kstyler is that Hybrid styler tend to make some fighting range a little farther than Kstylers, who mainly approach for closer fight. Who is better? Again I can't say, It all depends on person's skill and long years of experience.

So try to remove narrowmindedness about Kstyle beats all. I do admit Kstyle is has overall better advantage but that doesn't mean your win is guaranteed. Trust me... I have seen many Dstylers and Estylers who are very pro at gunz. (Im nothing compared to them :sad: )

[BasLer]

in most cases hybrid stylers can switch theres moves in a flash to a new kind of mix k stylers they only do certain things. which means their predictable, and well hybrid stylers keep you on your toes at all times you can't tell what they might do to switch the tides of the fight.

[LooongCat]

-E-Style;17700']I am hybrid styler. I use shotgun or MG for short distance and Rifle or revolver for long distance. I am proud to be hybrid styler, enjoying beating arrogqant amateur Kstylers.

So are you using sword glithces? Like Bfly or SS? If you are, you are a k-styler with MG/riffle, but if you are not using any sword tricks then you are e-styler/"normal player"

[Addiction]

-E-Style;17700']I am hybrid styler. I use shotgun or MG for short distance and Rifle or revolver for long distance. I am proud to be hybrid styler, enjoying beating arrogqant amateur Kstylers.

Yeah, played with you yesterday :no:

You are GOOD :clap:

[Courl]

-E-Style;19551']You can. I actually have seen many fighters in Elite channel TDM or DM who don't use Shotguns and revolvers and who don't do RS at all but own lots of Kstylers. It all depends on the long years of experience. Skill is not limited to only Kstyle.

Don't forget Hybrid stylers do all Sword movements like DBF, BF, lauching with Dan-Step etc. Don't assume hybrid stylers are like newbie lvl5 player who never use swords. I would say the major difference between Hybriders and Kstyler is that Hybrid styler tend to make some fighting range a little farther than Kstylers, who mainly approach for closer fight. Who is better? Again I can't say, It all depends on person's skill and long years of experience.

So try to remove narrowmindedness about Kstyle beats all. I do admit Kstyle is has overall better advantage but that doesn't mean your win is guaranteed. Trust me... I have seen many Dstylers and Estylers who are very pro at gunz. (Im nothing compared to them :sad: )

Narrowmindness.. isn't a word.. But w/e, I get the point.

I'm NOT narrow minded about k-style, I just don't think you can win a fight 1 on 4 with just a Hybrid, as the shots are continuous and not spontaneous.. You can't move around like a madman AND shoot.

I hope you get my point, as soon as you're going to try and shoot you get raped by swords, a PB in your back. You name it.

[LooongCat]

Ok what the **** is this hybrid ****************? If you use sword and make Bfly ,SS etc. glitsehs what that makes you?....... right you are a K-Styler a Korean Style user, whet if you use dagger? and do JSD, YoYo hop,.etc dagger tricks what that makes you?...... right again a D-Stylre, a dagger user, if you denie all melee and prefer that old good riffle to kill your opponets with easy, what that makes you?.... right thirth time arow a E-Styler, "normal player"

So if you are using k-style BUT you are as well using Riffle/MG what that makes you?...... WRONG! sorry that dosen't make you anything else than k-styler with Riffle or MG in they pocket

For the tactics if you say that K-stylers only attack in close quaters you are wrong there is many forms of K-Style and hell if we would put label on every style there would be as many style as there is K-Stylers.

[Courl]

Hybrid is k-styling with e-style weaponry.

So, yeah. It JUST IS.

[Fujjin]

And what about d-styling with e-style weaponry ?

[Courl]

Called d-style, and with k-style weaponry, also d-style.

Dagger = d-style no matter what.

[LooongCat]

K-style with automatics is sthill k-style nothing more

[Courl]

I agree with you, though 'they' call it hybrid.

[LooongCat]

Maybe they think is sounds cool o_O?

[Courl]

Well, Hybrid is still different as the shots are continuous not spontaneous.

[Ian H.]

I thought Hybrid was kstyle but using rifles as a secondary wep. :/

[Courl]

The Hybrid here is

K-style swording
E-style gunning

Not like
K-style Gun
E-style Gun

[[RB]-E-Style]

The Hybrid here is

K-style swording
E-style gunning

Not like
K-style Gun
E-style Gun

By the way, I didnt make all these Hybrid stuff from my mind. Read this from gunzfactor.com where it talks about Kstyle weapon combo. http://www.gunzfactor.com/adv_korean.php

"Rifle - Shotgun : You now only have one "SS"-able weapon now, so you'll be going hybrid now. This is a very unexpected combo as most players don't expect a SG user to whip out a rifle at any given point. (****)"

Well the author said "hybrid" and if you have seen talk about hybrid at gunzfactor.com, many hybrid ppl that have been talked about are SG-rifle users. Also almost everyone knows SG is really for Kstyle wep. I haven't seen Estylers good at shooting with shotgun by tumbling. revolver and RL are more toward Kstyle but can be used for Estylers as well.

Also I gotta admit Kstyling with rifle or MG is not very effective. Occassional Kstyling with auto weps are fine but I find tumbling with these weps are good and yeah that would be Estyle.

I will somewhat agree with you that I can be called Kstyler since I am more close to Kstyle since all my sword movements are from Kstyle but I can't do RS and swap shots like most Kstyle overuse. Plus I use primary wep Shotgun and rifle or MG for secondary wep. So 2/3 of my wep shows Kstyle.

But whenever I pick up rifle or MG, ppl really don't call me "Kstyler"

[[RB]-E-Style]

So are you using sword glithces? Like Bfly or SS? If you are, you are a k-styler with MG/riffle, but if you are not using any sword tricks then you are e-styler/"normal player"

I do use Kstyle sword trick. Trust me. Without Kstyle sword tricks you can hardly beat Kstylers. So guess what? what if you are out of ammmo? are you just gonna default slash on the ground while the opponent do Circle of Death BF on you?

Also read this http://www.gunzfactor.com/adv_european.php
"I'm a Rev-Rev person, and I also know how to butterfly."

the author there is Estyler with 2 revolvers. I bet he uses BF because if he sucks, I dont know why he would have permission to write that guide. Besides I hear from many ppl that the author "Tsuteto" is very pro player.

Well, so bottomline of dividing the line between pure stylers and hybrid stylers are very difficult and can be different from person to person. I am not gonna argue further cuz it is of no use. What matters most is how good you use the wep you use most. Anyway, I heavily got the knowledges of hybrid style from Gunzfactor ppl.

[BasLer]

i think you can mix n style in there

[Courl]

What's n-style?

[[RB]-E-Style]

Yeah, played with you yesterday :no:

You are GOOD :clap:

lol thank you. I am still thinking what would be good moves for auto weps. It sure is challenging but FUN to use them. I play Gunz for fun unlike those ppl who are slaved to CW to bring their CW record high. ;)

Well, Hybrid is still different as the shots are continuous not spontaneous.

You are right. SG shots sponstaneously and I do get killed instaneously sometimes by RS spammers. To survive, I had to move crazy to dodge all the bullets and developed some intuition and other Estyle tactics like camping grenading etc. I do admit I get killed a lot by uber PRO Kstylers. But I have seen uber PRO sprayers or Estylers, Dstylers etc. I don't know what would happen between the best of one style VS another style unless they play against each other. But yeah, we all know Kstylers have overall advantage but he is not guaranteed to win all the time.(depending on person's condition, luck etc)

One D-E-hybrid styler in duel match I remember was that he would move so crazy that Kstylers could not hit him and ended up wasting all their SG ammos. Withthe speed he got he would chip the opponent's HPO away little by little with short delay of dagger and then he would start spray them to death. so it is very different tactic that Kstylers do cuz Kstylers wanna kill the opponent as fast face-to-face fight. That is just one example.

One reason why I like this game is that you can are not limited to only one style. Try many other styles, weps etc and it sure is fun.

[[RB]-E-Style]

What's n-style?

Ninja stepping I think. If he is talking about Ninja stepping, that is not style. It is not really a legal move and it sure is annoying cuz I would waste my ammo on him but then the person suddnely disappear with the D/C sign above his head.

It sure makes me angry ppl who do this in CW and atk and def. Just play legit and don't mess up with the Internet connection.

EDIT: nvm. Maybe Nstyle he is talking about is "Noob Style"? I saw Nstyle in Youtube.com long before and I just remembered xD

[LooongCat]

-E-Style;20369']I do use Kstyle sword trick. Trust me. Without Kstyle sword tricks you can hardly beat Kstylers. So guess what? what if you are out of ammmo? are you just gonna default slash on the ground while the opponent do Circle of Death BF on you?

Question 1. How ok.. I haven't played with k-style in long time so I can't remember but tell me how you can waist all of your bullets on the walls? Or you mean that you have been fighting 10 battles in row and you are sill in good share hp/Ap wise? Cuase at least I travel all over map collecting pickups.

Question 2. Why would I slash? I am dagger user I prefer stabbing

[LooongCat]

And also I say there is no such thing as hybrid style, hybrid = mix up of two or more things... so if you are using k-style move more than spray then what you are?

And if you are using spray more than k-style what you are?

And how are revolvers e-style only weapons?

And you know that most of high lvl e-stylers learn lil k-style to fight k-stylers better but does this make them some hybrid style? No I don't think so, if it makes then I wanna make new style too. it is called PM-style its this thing where you use only pistols and k-style with them its not k-style its Pistol Master style ok, so don't say that k-style pwns my PM-style will pwn you better

Or can I make style called ABCSEFG-style where I use ABCDEFG move that realy is combo of Bfly and HS but don't tell anyone.

[Courl]

Use the edit button. =/

[[RB]-E-Style]

Question 1. How ok.. I haven't played with k-style in long time so I can't remember but tell me how you can waist all of your bullets on the walls? Or you mean that you have been fighting 10 battles in row and you are sill in good share hp/Ap wise? Cuase at least I travel all over map collecting pickups.

Question 2. Why would I slash? I am dagger user I prefer stabbing

Answer to Question 1:w hy do you waste your bullets on the walls? Are you utterly stupid? Obviously you should try to spend all your ammos on the opponents. Well, I normally have 3~9 kills per death in Deathmatches. So usually when I kill after like 5 ppl, I am normally out of ammo. sure, you can eat ammo that are available to pickup but chances of that in large DM is little since there is usually 1 ammo or 2 ammo place but everyone else may need it too. Or, sometimes you can't because enemies spotted you and keep chasing you. You may run away or fight back but sometimes you will discover that you can't run back really. So you have to fight back but you have no ammo. what are you gonna do? Well, for me, I fight them back with Butterfly or Double butterfly. I sometimes try Dan-step after melee launching but I find it risky. So yeah, it is not always you can have ammo all the time.

Answer to Question 2: I don't care if you use dagger or not. Most ppl use katanas and very few ppl use daggers and Kodachis. So I was talking about general ppl. ;)

[[RB]-E-Style]

And also I say there is no such thing as hybrid style, hybrid = mix up of two or more things... so if you are using k-style move more than spray then what you are?
I don't care if you say there is no Hyrbid styles. It is general term to group ppl for the fighting styles. Well, I did not make this style up. Ppl talk about this at gunzfactor.com and if you think there is no hybrid style, talk to bunch of ppl there that hybrid style doesnt exist. Cuz ppl will bring hybrid style topic a lot and you will have agree that such term "hybrid style" exist and know what ppl talk about. Argue against them since there have been lots of hybrid style discussion. Most ppl there have been accepting the existence of hybrid styles over years. remember it is just a general term to group ppl and you seem to take it too serious.

Ppl rarely call Kstylers if he has one automatic wep. for me I get various opinions. A lot of ppl call me "LOL, you are not Estyler" even though my name is [RB]-E-style and I tend to equip rifle. Also ppl call me "pro sprayer" or some angry ppl call me "noob sprayer" well even though I use Shotgun for my primary using most Kstyle moves. So what should I be? I would fall into Hybrid.

And if you are using spray more than k-style what you are?
That depends on ppl's opinion. Just like ppl call me "Kstyler" "sprayer". I kinda hear ppl calling me "Kstyle" about 60% of the times and 40% of the time they call me "Estyler or sprayer"

And how are revolvers e-style only weapons?
Who said revolvers are estyle only weapons? Revolvers would fall into any style weapons. If you use Kstyle move with revolvers, then it would be Kstyle weapon and if you use Estyle move with revolvers, then it would be Estyle weapon. You name it.


And you know that most of high lvl e-stylers learn lil k-style to fight k-stylers better but does this make them some hybrid style? No I don't think so, if it makes then I wanna make new style too. it is called PM-style its this thing where you use only pistols and k-style with them its not k-style its Pistol Master style ok, so don't say that k-style pwns my PM-style will pwn you better
Argue about it at Gunzfactor,com and make a new topic about this. I m not saying you are wrong. You do have some good points.

Again, Hybrid Style is not a new style that let you learn new moves etc, It is just general term to group ppl. who made this term? I don't know. I only started gunz like 4 months ago. I also dont knwo why ppl had to group like all these styles etc. anyway, this is all I know so far. at gunzfactor.com you sure will see many many hybrid stylers there.

Or can I make style called ABCSEFG-style where I use ABCDEFG move that realy is combo of Bfly and HS but don't tell anyone.
Go ahead make such silly style and moves. No one will care and instead ppl will flame you for spamming. sure if you are to tell no one, make up whatever name you want. No one cares.

[LooongCat]

[RB]-E-Style

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[Seth Wynd]

I'm a fan of the turtlefly >_>

In terms of effectiveness, it's pretty low; but it messes with people's heads in a gladiator match. Since, the only thing it's missing from a regular BF is an actual attack; instead it's just blocking. It tends to wear people down, because they keep expecting that sword slash but it never comes. Eventually they wise up though, so it's best to mix it in with whatever other style you play with; so that you actually damage the person before they figure out what you're up to.