Cheating: Logging out before you die during DM and relogging

[Ste3ph]

Logging out before you die during DM and relogging back in repeatedly.

Would you consider that cheating?
Post comments..:clap:

[Redempt]

...no

Kill them quicker =]

[Ste3ph]

lol yes, b/c to get good kills u cant just full go pvp the whole world all day. Its about timing

[ownshard]

lol i voted yes idk how anyone could think its fair its a lame tactic but my i guess my opinion doesn't matter cuz i'm a newbie.

[breaker316]

nah, cause people with 5 prem hp and ap meds are pretty much doing the same thing. Rejoining a game before dieng is my way of healing.

[tailsy]

well thats why we have the 5 seconds before you can leave rule

[Konfess]

Lol... Hes talking about me. He says ill get banned and hes gonna take away my prems lmao. Well this is what happened. We were in a castle berserker. AFTER every death i kept resetting my score. I did not leave when i was red or about to die. He said he has recording. Well go ahead and show them. I did not leave before dying. After i died i left the game to reset score and came back in. I check exp % after every death cause i like to see it going up. Either way thats not a reason to get banned for. And even if someone leaves everytime they were red, its not agaisnt the rules. Is it gay to do? of course it is, but thats not what i was doing. So yeah Steph Q_Q.

[Farala]

I would like to go ahead and ask....why would you actually do that? sure you avoid a kill but.....you waste 2-3 mins coming back in, which in 5 seconds youd be back up to go and make up for the death long before you would get back in if you logged out......unless the person wants to keep a good k/d ratio idk why someone in the right mind would even think of doing this.

[Lemon]

no its not cheating .. its basically the same thing as TKing

[Bargon]

No, because I do this all the time in duels. Its fun seeing their reactions.


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[Zman840]

It isn't really cheating at all...

If you really want it to NOT make them rejoin, just go to the options in the room [if you are the controller] and prohibit rejoins, I think...

Really, its pretty easy to kill a person if they are just going to stay still for at least 2 seconds just to click the button to exit the room

[jeremywilms]

No, its not fair. You shouldn't run away like a bloody pansy. Its like running away and healing during a fight. Its happened to me various times, and It really does aggravate me. However, I don't really play for the leveling, only the privilege to remain at the top of the player list =D

[Ste3ph]

I mean its easy to run away,, i could do it to if i wanted to, but to abuse it and do it every single time ur about to die thats crasy. They should put a lock on it like killing the same person when there afk to prevent plvling. Yeah Konfess does it alot, but he was also health hacking lmao, talk about being afriad to die he takes the cake.

[GcoinKid]

bump 10chars

[Konvict_99]

i personaly hate cause there this on glich where u leave n come back and who ever kills u = kill dosent get register which sucks cause ive killed alot people doing that n i dont get the exp for that kill.

[skeetskeet]

I think people doing this is really annoying, but I dont think its cheating. If I see someone rejoining before death alot I usually try to kill them when they are in a group. :D

[BuySumSk1lls]

i personaly hate cause there this on glich where u leave n come back and who ever kills u = kill dosent get register which sucks cause ive killed alot people doing that n i dont get the exp for that kill.

Ye I know that glitch. Tough it should be bannable, I'm sometimes Forced to leave and come back since of the darn server lagg makin me wait for 1 minute...

[Courl]

I do this all the time whenever I DM.

[xbeanz]

Depends on the person
Depends on the reaction of the fellow people..
I think..
Its Cheating ;)

[[RB]-E-Style]

Nah, It is not cheating...

I see your point and yes I used to think like that. Although I dont do like that, cuz I usually go till I get 95 kills. If you actually try kill and leave stuffs, you can't really enjoy and it takes longer to enjoy because you first get 5 second to leave and like 2 second to load and 2-5 second to get all NAT or whatever to locate all other players. So in fact you are rly wasting time just to boost k/d ratio(which no one cares really except top 20 i think) or whatever purpose is to gain from consquent join and leave.

If purpose is to kill faster and to level faster, just staying in the game makes things faster.

[Konfess]

Lol Steph your a noob. First of all, i left after i died. Therefore, i didnt avoid dying. Second, it doesnt take 2-3 mins? It takes 5 secs to go to gameroom and come back in. Finally, im level 67, do you really think i would be dumb enough to med hack? Since you recorded, please send in replay of me medhacking so they ban me. Q_Q Steph.

[Pounds]

Not at all,cuz this type of no-lifers are not seen as a human in my eyes.

[bonelordo]

I haven't been playing long but i only ran into one guy who did it. It doesn't really seem worth it, at least in DMs and such.

[Karell]

DM is full of fail by nature. Stupid things happen, it's mostly luck, and people with insane amounts of premmies have a huge advantage. I don't see leaving and coming back as being bad, especially if you run out of ammo.

Now, in something like atk def, I can see you complaining... but then that would just make you win easier.

[[SnackS]]

I voted no. I leave the game and reenter if I run out of ammunition.

[KakashiHatake103]

I would like to go ahead and ask....why would you actually do that? sure you avoid a kill but.....you waste 2-3 mins coming back in, which in 5 seconds youd be back up to go and make up for the death long before you would get back in if you logged out......unless the person wants to keep a good k/d ratio idk why someone in the right mind would even think of doing this.

lol you have the *!SLOWEST!* computer in the world if it takes 2-3 minutes for you to leave and come back in. takes me like 3 seconds

[Godofwar]

well thats why we have the 5 seconds before you can leave rule

Owned = O!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

[itsmexd]

lol you have the *!SLOWEST!* computer in the world if it takes 2-3 minutes for you to leave and come back in. takes me like 3 seconds
You mean more than 5 secs :D remeber 5 second rule
and i do it all the time for ammo only o.o or i die so i won't consider it cheating but abusing = bad

[Ste3ph]

Lol Steph your a noob. First of all, i left after i died. Therefore, i didnt avoid dying. Second, it doesnt take 2-3 mins? It takes 5 secs to go to gameroom and come back in. Finally, im level 67, do you really think i would be dumb enough to med hack? Since you recorded, please send in replay of me medhacking so they ban me. Q_Q Steph.

Didi even call you out wtf are you talking about? And use you're main avatar when speaking.. dont be a hiding noob.:zzz:

[Sai]

Is this a joke or a tantrum thread? How can leaving and re-entering a game possibly be a bannable offense?

[Shadow_The_Hamste]

-It is cheating other players of their EXP.
-It is cheating the K/D system by faking your actual skill and making you seem MORE skilled than you actually are.
-It isn't cheating because anyone can do it.

I'm going to have to go with it's cheating, 2-1.

[Ste3ph]

-It is cheating other players of their EXP.
-It is cheating the K/D system by faking your actual skill and making you seem MORE skilled than you actually are.
-It isn't cheating because anyone can do it.

I'm going to have to go with it's cheating, 2-1.

Exactly the K/D ratio is a proud stat, how are they going to falsify it by loggin out. Now the system is already put up on place that a room maker can set the option to no late join. But it still doesnt prevent the abuse in game w/o the option. Id say there should be x=amount of log outs in a game to make it fair. Lets say 5 log outs ina 100kill game,, that seems reasonable.
And yes i agree with you 100pct completely. I wish we could get a GM though on this. In TOS you could it states this under

5.o

o) You may not exploit any bug, feature, or design within any ijji.com product or Service. You may not intentionally use and/or share such information, real or fictitious, regardless of intent, or if it grants an unfair advantage. You may not directly or indirectly communicate the existence of such exploit/bug to another user of the ijji.com Service. You will report any such exploit via the bug reporting process outlined on the ijji.com Website.

Now since you read that doesnt it seem like a bannable offese.

[Dang]

just kick them out of the game if u have a big problem with it

[cRiSsI]

I always do it on my alt :)

[Shadow_The_Hamste]

Why was this bumped? ...
And yes, kick them.

Edit: 2nd half of my post wasn't typed because the oven's timer went off.
(Annoying commercial quote "I LOVE TOSTINO'S PIZZA ROLLS!")

Anyways. If you want to waste a kick on some noob who leaves before they can get killed, fine by me, I'll hit Y. But I won't waste my own kick on them. I save mine for hackers and spammers and laggers. (200+ ping ofcorse)

Also, they most likely will leave before the vote ends so it won't kick them.

[ProvingYouWrong]

Its just ***gotry that people feel they need to do to keep their k-d up. If someone starts doing that ****, I don't bother chasing them, just let them have fun leaving the game every thirty seconds so that they can feel like a pro.

Edit: I do wonder if anyone remembers the hack that was released that allowed people to leave games instantly by hitting a hotkey. I know if that happened to them, they'd be pissed.

[Antzking]

Its not cheating but it is cheap like insta, gets you out of tough spots quickly xD

[Ste3ph]

I strongly feel that this can be a bannable offense based on Tos 5.o

5.o

o) You may not exploit any bug, feature, or design within any ijji.com product or Service. You may not intentionally use and/or share such information, real or fictitious, regardless of intent, or if it grants an unfair advantage. You may not directly or indirectly communicate the existence of such exploit/bug to another user of the ijji.com Service. You will report any such exploit via the bug reporting process outlined on the ijji.com Website.

Now since its not a hack how can we report this?

[cRiSsI]

I strongly feel that this can be a bannable offense based on Tos 5.o

5.o

o) You may not exploit any bug, feature, or design within any ijji.com product or Service. You may not intentionally use and/or share such information, real or fictitious, regardless of intent, or if it grants an unfair advantage. You may not directly or indirectly communicate the existence of such exploit/bug to another user of the ijji.com Service. You will report any such exploit via the bug reporting process outlined on the ijji.com Website.

Now since its not a hack how can we report this?

lol. Make me laugh more. It's totally legit and WAY from being a bannable offense.

[ohmydays93]

well thats why we have the 5 seconds before you can leave rule

i agree, whether it is cheating or not depends on one's opinion, but ijji has tried to solve the problem by adding this 5 seconds.:)

[XtremeIT]

i sed yh cos its not reli fair if u goin 1-11 n u leave, but thats y u hit em twice as hard, twice as fast, :P lol

[Ste3ph]

i agree, whether it is cheating or not depends on one's opinion, but ijji has tried to solve the problem by adding this 5 seconds.:)

Well everyone knows its not fair.. thats why whoever does it does it.. Its an exploit of a feature in gunz.. i mean its under TOS 5.o clear as day.. ive been reporting it anyway.. Cheating K/D sucks. I earned my 56% K/D, somone else who logs out all the time has a much high K/D it makes it look like there pro when there not.. and its a Stat that was gained by eploiting a feature thats unfair, and also theres a bug to is that no one is talking about that it doesnt let u wait 5 seconds to log out. You log out instantly. Ijji i assume knows about this..

[HiiTSQuaD_ [Q]¹]

Aim Better?

They Have To ESC And Choose.

Stop With The QQ.

[Ste3ph]

¹;2501768']Aim Better?

They Have To ESC And Choose.

Stop With The QQ.

No its Esc and a hotkey i think. Well i dont know how u play but sometimes u need to find a hiding spot to reload or med before u take them on again.. and dont assume there hp is like one or something.. they have enough to escape cuase you know im after them, lol. Esc and going to channel lobby sends them out the room instantly now how can u predict that? you cant predict when somone is going to log out weather there doing it to change weaps or just to cheat K/D.

[HiiTSQuaD_ [Q]¹]

No its Esc and a hotkey i think. Well i dont know how u play but sometimes u need to find a hiding spot to reload or med before u take them on again.. and dont assume there hp is like one or something.. they have enough to escape cuase you know im after them, lol. Esc and going to channel lobby sends them out the room instantly now how can u predict that? you cant predict when somone is going to log out weather there doing it to change weaps or just to cheat K/D.

Chase? lol Its Not Cheating.

[Cornhollio]

People who log out before they die are noobs who dont want to get a bad kills/death ratio

[Shadwstep]

Yes, it's cheating. Yes, I still do it from time to time :P My way of getting back at those 20 hackers I have in my replay files over the previous month :)

[Koph]

Team death match FTW!

[Xihuntersss]

Aperently all the people how voted no are the ones who does it anyways idk what others said i only looked at vote and ur post

[HiiTSQuaD_ [Q]¹]

Free Channel 1, 15+/0 k/d Rejoin When Low And Repeat QQ!

[Jentra4i]

Its not cheating cause you have the right to leave and come back as you please you just have to be quick enough to get the kill and it doesnt take 2 min to rejoin only takes me about 5sec to rejoin .i wouldnt do it in a dual but in a DM Yes quick way to heal and you could annoy those sprayers/naders ... there 1 more thing you could rise ur winning rate up this way cheap i know but thats another way of doing it >.>

[Kaikiller99]

Roflmao, Thats Really Pathetic Especially In A n D, AhmedxX He Does That Everytime And He Also Cheats Lmao, Pathetic Lvl 76 Or W/e It Is. FAIL NOOB