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ThePandaLord
02-08-2009, 04:24 AM
Yes, this is another one of those threads. <_<; Prepare yourself.

First, I am tired of people constantly dying. <_<

For gods sake, let the people who have pushback skills or any offensive skill that does not cause a knockdown, take care of the Sikan Battle Machines.

Sikan Battle Machines = LAZOR BOTZ.

Okay, next, remember to get the damned secrets for Soldin. I've had too many runs where people don't get the secrets and we're stuck with Rigel. =/
(I'd get them myself, but I have no idea where they are)

The miniboss machine.
This being the one that does the 300 x3 counterattack when you use your skills. If you have a healer, USE MAGIC! That's why she is there. So you can be healed and not die. We don't want to melee that damned thing and waste time. -.-

Kill the Sikan Rogues. They can air combo anyone to death. Those are your first priority when you get to them.

Kill the defense machines that shoot out those crystal ball thingies. Ever wonder how you lose so much HP?
BECAUSE NO ONE BOTHERS TO KILL THE PURPLE CRYSTAL OR THE MACHINES THEMSELVES!

Rigel/Soldin

Rigel--Learn to dodge his attacks. -.-

Never get in front of Rigel. He'll use his little ground lazor thingy...

When Rigel does a sort of wave emotion...RUN OUT OF THE WAY!
That's him preparing for his insta-kill dragon.

When he is charging the huge ball looking thingy that homes on you...get behind him IMMEDIATELY! If it's going to hit you, RUN to the side. Don't run in front of it.

Soldin--nothing special.

Just spam him to death. :3

As for Dainn's, Ice Wall him in the open to get him to focus solely on the Ice Wall.

If it's done successfully, you can use every skill in your arsenal to deal damage and he won't even be aggro'd to you.



This is sort of a guide + rant. x.x;

iMercury
02-08-2009, 04:53 AM
Yes, this is another one of those threads. <_<; Prepare yourself.

First, I am tired of people constantly dying. <_<
Too true, even worse in Myth.

For gods sake, let the people who have pushback skills or any offensive skill that does not cause a knockdown, take care of the Sikan Battle Machines.
For the Sikan Battle Machines, I tend to group them them use Rim of Severe Cold, followed by Cold Incandescence and then Ice Dragon's Heart. Good mob flinching and no knockdown.

Sikan Battle Machines = LAZOR BOTZ.

Okay, next, remember to get the damned secrets for Soldin. I've had too many runs where people don't get the secrets and we're stuck with Rigel. =/
(I'd get them myself, but I have no idea where they are)
First secret is in the right wall of the second room, second secret is in the left wall of the fourth room.

The miniboss machine.
This being the one that does the 300 x3 counterattack when you use your skills. If you have a healer, USE MAGIC! That's why she is there. So you can be healed and not die. We don't want to melee that damned thing and waste time. -.-
I agree, too many people want to waste time by using melee when Soldin has a time limit. One wizard even continued using Melee even when I had frozen the Elders.

Kill the Sikan Rogues. They can air combo anyone to death. Those are your first priority when you get to them.
Actually they usually don't do that unless they have something else helping them.

Kill the defense machines that shoot out those crystal ball thingies. Ever wonder how you lose so much HP?
BECAUSE NO ONE BOTHERS TO KILL THE PURPLE CRYSTAL OR THE MACHINES THEMSELVES!
I agree, people dont bother to kill them. That's why I'm usually away from the main party focusing on those. Oh and don't just kill the Magic Stones and think its over. The defensive devices still shoot.

Rigel/Soldin

Rigel--Learn to dodge his attacks. -.-

Never get in front of Rigel. He'll use his little ground lazor thingy...

When Rigel does a sort of wave emotion...RUN OUT OF THE WAY!
That's him preparing for his insta-kill dragon.

When he is charging the huge ball looking thingy that homes on you...get behind him IMMEDIATELY! If it's going to hit you, RUN to the side. Don't run in front of it.
When Rigel waves his hand and there is a delay in his attacks, he's going to use dragon - run. Also, use F32 to help your other team mates. When he charges his ball, get behind him. When it rotates around him and goes to you, then run. While he is charging the ball, however, attack him from behing as much as possible. When he's about to heal, don't run all the way to the other side of the arena because you need to help in attacking him while he is healing. Just endure the knockdown. When purple pillars of light form around him, get away from him. Those pillars will hit you and he will shoot fire bolts to chase you too.

Soldin--nothing special.

Just spam him to death. :3

As for Dainn's, Ice Wall him in the open to get him to focus solely on the Ice Wall.

If it's done successfully, you can use every skill in your arsenal to deal damage and he won't even be aggro'd to you.

This is sort of a guide + rant. x.x;

Hope it helps.

Kirono
02-14-2009, 08:07 AM
Me Have In A Tip Tu Run!!!!!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^

Paroro
02-14-2009, 08:37 AM
like ^, I always take care of the crystals/shooting devices : D yay.


About meleeing the Elders/minibosses/Nors, I think it depends sometimes, specially on the healer on your team @_@ if you want to spam magic on him the healer better be good, I've seen many situations where at least someone dies because the poor healer has to heal too much and people just keep running into his heavy-damage counterattacks.

Also I've never been aircomboed by a sikan rogue o_o.. I'll be careful, thanks.

Also, everything else, pretty good advice : P

TheGuy
02-14-2009, 08:53 AM
Learn to dodge is all I need to say. Not really.
To prevent deaths in the early stages, especially the first and third area, go after the lazor robots first. There is nothing wrong with knocking down those thing. You can still attack them with a down attack. The best way to kill them with be a strong knockdown attack followed by a down attack then continue with a melee combo.
For the mini bosses, just use get one member to tank it while the other two attack from behind or the side.
For Rigel, always attack from the side or back. Standing in front and attacking would be the stupidest thing you can do. Always look for his hand motions like ThePandaLord stated. Learn to use your Cactuses if you have any. It should be summoned when 3/4 of his HP is gone or when he is healing.

Paroro
02-14-2009, 10:54 AM
Learn to use your Cactuses if you have any. It should be summoned when 3/4 of his HP is gone or when he is healing.

Is there anything else to that? I'd like to know, I never really use them so I dunno if there's an effective way for summoning those cacti.

TranquilWinds
02-14-2009, 11:13 AM
Is there anything else to that? I'd like to know, I never really use them so I dunno if there's an effective way for summoning those cacti.

You get him into a corner, summon all your cacti, and mass spam all your attacks while he's trying to kill them.

TheGuy
02-14-2009, 03:47 PM
Is there anything else to that? I'd like to know, I never really use them so I dunno if there's an effective way for summoning those cacti.

You can always use them as a diversion; similarly to Ice Wall. They can also be used as a tanker. These two ways aren't widely used but they are just some suggestions and ways you can use your cacti. The most common ways are the two I stated above.

Hope I helped.

BanCake
02-14-2009, 03:57 PM
I usually put the cacti right on him when he heals to hit his weak spot for massive damage.

Paree
02-14-2009, 04:59 PM
Meh...
I find 6-10h to be super easy.
All you need is a good healer, and you won't need to do any of the things you noted.
Except for the running from the dragon and secrets.

Honny
02-14-2009, 05:38 PM
i disagree...ima FS and i was in a party with the stupidest slime EVER.When i tried to heal he just slime away with only 1/4 of his HP >_>;;; and when we got to rigel, he Xformed with 1/3 of his HP dumb...died instantly. I felt like im chasing a bad boy and cleaning after him D:< ...at least the other members are smart to get healed :L

jadec101
02-14-2009, 06:59 PM
Tips for the Nor/Hor/Tor/etc...If theres a Dainn anyways lol
1) Wall him
2) Wait until he starts to attack the wall
3) Spam the thing till he dies
-Note- DONT get too close to the sides (if you are at the sides) if your party isnt going to stop spamming just for you to get away and to a good distance for the healer to heal you. I HATE it when smart asses just keep getting up and getting pwned by the high dmg attack thingy -Note-

Thx to raingoddes for teaching meh this~

bladedfury410
02-14-2009, 08:12 PM
6-10 is ez

panda4life
02-14-2009, 10:51 PM
Yes, this is another one of those threads. <_<; Prepare yourself.

First, I am tired of people constantly dying. <_<
errr duh?

For gods sake, let the people who have pushback skills or any offensive skill that does not cause a knockdown, take care of the Sikan Battle Machines.
if you know how to properly space spam, u can let anyone do it

Sikan Battle Machines = LAZOR BOTZ.
YAR LOL I HATE THOSE THINGS

Okay, next, remember to get the damned secrets for Soldin. I've had too many runs where people don't get the secrets and we're stuck with Rigel. =/
(I'd get them myself, but I have no idea where they are)
theres one on the middle right of the 2nd room and the first third left of the 4th room

The miniboss machine.
This being the one that does the 300 x3 counterattack when you use your skills. If you have a healer, USE MAGIC! That's why she is there. So you can be healed and not die. We don't want to melee that damned thing and waste time. -.-
actually... as a tia i jsut ground shift them to hell
i HIGHLY SUGGEST
first 1, snipe it if possible, if u must use a skill please hit and run unless you know how to dodge
2nd one, STAY AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE, ITS MACHINE LONG RANGE THING DOES 900+ DMG
3rd one, same as the first one, but its even easier, u dont even have to dodge anything
4th one, again stay as close as possible, but u do have to sorta do a weaving motion, hit, run out, repeat


Kill the Sikan Rogues. They can air combo anyone to death. Those are your first priority when you get to them.
YES, I AGREE 100%

Kill the defense machines that shoot out those crystal ball thingies. Ever wonder how you lose so much HP?
BECAUSE NO ONE BOTHERS TO KILL THE PURPLE CRYSTAL OR THE MACHINES THEMSELVES!
actually those are a sodding waste of time to kill
if ur a decent stager u would know how to dodge em easily

Rigel/Soldin

Rigel--Learn to dodge his attacks. -.-

Never get in front of Rigel. He'll use his little ground lazor thingy...
um really depends what you are doing in front of him lol
if you got hp to survive it, it doesnt really matter
its only 1100 dmg and he rarely repeats it (i have had a run where he shot it 16 times tho...)

When Rigel does a sort of wave emotion...RUN OUT OF THE WAY!
That's him preparing for his insta-kill dragon.
YES

When he is charging the huge ball looking thingy that homes on you...get behind him IMMEDIATELY! If it's going to hit you, RUN to the side. Don't run in front of it.
to be more specific, get behind him, attack then run sideways then back infront of himt
thats the perfect dodge for that attack

Soldin--nothing special.

Just spam him to death. :3
100% incorrect, ill have you know that if you stand infront of him he may do a crazy meteor shower thing, or a bapho like flame launcher thingy that basically is a 1 hit ko, also if you are a class with low hp, when he does the meteor shower stand 45 degrees to his back so you dont get hit
finally, make sure you always go near his back, thats the safest place to be for this guy

As for Dainn's, Ice Wall him in the open to get him to focus solely on the Ice Wall.
i guess this has a use... but i think its pointless...

If it's done successfully, you can use every skill in your arsenal to deal damage and he won't even be aggro'd to you.
u dont really need the dainn...



This is sort of a guide + rant. x.x;
some stuff i dont agree with but dats fine, good guide



10char lolish

Kirono
02-15-2009, 06:31 AM
Sorry But Get In A Tia Or Lime Will Pwn In Yaa

ThePandaLord
02-15-2009, 08:51 AM
Sorry But Get In A Tia Or Lime Will Pwn In Yaa

Or you can learn to speak proper English.

LimexKing
02-15-2009, 02:33 PM
6-10H is easy and I don't dodge Rigel :o!. I just use Magic Def and I continue to melee/destroy him with.

Grimnoir
02-15-2009, 03:30 PM
I think you're not allowed to complain about missing secrets if you do not take the time to learn where they are yourself.

I rest I can sympathize with.

Phenixa
02-15-2009, 03:59 PM
The miniboss machine.
This being the one that does the 300 x3 counterattack when you use your skills. If you have a healer, USE MAGIC! That's why she is there. So you can be healed and not die. We don't want to melee that damned thing and waste time. -.-


Actually, it has happened multiple times that those elders killed me in one hit with that attack. If they use the ice wall trick to draw his attention, then sure, spamming skills will give no harm.

Also, a lot of what you said don't apply to normal runs. If you don't specify that it's a Soldin run, it's very possible that they won't bother getting the secrets. A lot of people only does the stage 6-10 for Genocides as available genocides to that stage gives fabulous experience. Organized parties would generally give better chance to make Soldin appear anyway.

dreamer1
12-21-2009, 03:32 PM
Cool i think that should help me when next time i do soldin