many angry people

[killarcon]

many people agree with me and are very very angry... i have a suggestion for soldier fornt which i think would greatly improve it.. my problem is too many people lagg... to fix this i have come up with an idea but i only want to realewase my idea to the gm's and not everyone else so they can take credit

[FIreIceShot]

your late. we know this problem

[killarcon]

yah well they aren't doing somehting about so mabye doing this will..

[booyahman]

wasn't there already a thread about dis when there was lag and some people had some ideas?

[killarcon]

well if there was that measn the word wasn't ou tout there.....COME OEN TELL ALL UR FREINDS I KNO 23 PEOPEL THAT HABE QUIT INT EH PAST WEEK

[Heat_X]

what do you mean ideas? like an improvement to the game code?

[MrN1cky]

people over 250 ping = kicked off immediatly

[NYLui]

Do what maplestory did, block other countries IP and put it only for canada/usa. No laggers anymore.

[Sh@dow]

Do what maplestory did, block other countries IP and put it only for canada/usa. No laggers anymore.

Would not work 100%.

People with bad computers/internet or if they have wireless internet will still lag.

[Andre91]

how can cs and other that kind of games be w/o lag and this not?

[FIreIceShot]

how can cs and other that kind of games be w/o lag and this not?

casue u pay for cs

[iFly-]

CSS is only 20

[Lirium]

I agree make US SF US and Canada exclusive.

[{hks}otacon]

a simple answer andre. we only have 1 server. its in LA. SF should make a server in west coast(already dun), cnetral america, and east coast. also IJJI should jus mass ban ppl with 200+ ping. hi ping means hi distance. hi distance means ur internet packets wil ltake longer to reach server. the long er it takes to send and recieve (ur modem should show send and recieve with lights flashing) the more lag. so if u made a server thats close to u, u wont lag as much. IM SMART LOVE ME NOW

[{hks}otacon]

AND IF U C ANYONE SPEAK BRASILIAN, JUST I DONT GIVE A DAM JSUT ****ING BANN THEM FOR NOT BEING AMERICAN. LOOK AT KOREA U CANT JOIN WITHOUT A KOREAN ID. SMART *** ASAINS. ugh

[Alexdabeast]

a simple answer andre. we only have 1 server. its in LA. SF should make a server in west coast(already dun), cnetral america, and east coast. also IJJI should jus mass ban ppl with 200+ ping. hi ping means hi distance. hi distance means ur internet packets wil ltake longer to reach server. the long er it takes to send and recieve (ur modem should show send and recieve with lights flashing) the more lag. so if u made a server thats close to u, u wont lag as much. IM SMART LOVE ME NOW

lol..... well that would take care of alot of lag but still thats 2 more servers that they have to put in.. idk.. good idea though but its proly not as easy as we think...:clap::clap::clap:

[destmanz]

I rekon this has to be the STUPIDIST S**T ever, I live in australia like many others that play, now ive spoken to some game developers in AUS about create us a Soldier Front server for just aussies and they wont due to ijji having so many people from world wide, NOW about the PING situation, IF you were smart enough people who live FURTHER away from the server have HIGHER PING, the closer u are the LOWER THE PING. Now not everyone lags, lag is generated by the PC not internet (unless dial-up which rare to seee now a-days) and I have an average of 182ping reason so high is because it gotta ping more to get to the gaming server faster. Ask all others from EU and AUS etc. what their ping average is, bet about same as mine. So not a good idea to only allow the USA coz so many will leave including US players and prolly then overrun the Jap SF.

[PantsHater]

Hey all. My two cents on the lag issue...
how can cs and other that kind of games be w/o lag and this not?
Basically it's the way the games are designed. Soldier Front is based on peer-to-peer data transfer with a central matchmaking server (very similar to Blizzard's battle.net) and is therefore far more subject to high latency problems (lag). The farther away from the host you are, the higher your ping is going to be. Counter-Strike, on the other hand, is server-client based. This means that your ping is unrelated to any other player that happens to be connected. Since every player is connected to a dedicated server, it handles all of the network traffic from every player. Lag compensation built into the servers is really only possible with a system like this.
I rekon this has to be the STUPIDIST S**T ever, I live in australia like many others that play, now ive spoken to some game developers in AUS about create us a Soldier Front server for just aussies and they wont due to ijji having so many people from world wide, NOW about the PING situation, IF you were smart enough people who live FURTHER away from the server have HIGHER PING, the closer u are the LOWER THE PING. Now not everyone lags, lag is generated by the PC not internet (unless dial-up which rare to seee now a-days) and I have an average of 182ping reason so high is because it gotta ping more to get to the gaming server faster. Ask all others from EU and AUS etc. what their ping average is, bet about same as mine. So not a good idea to only allow the USA coz so many will leave including US players and prolly then overrun the Jap SF.
Actually, that's backwards: your network connection has a far greater impact on lag than the PC itself. Physical distance that the data packet has to travel relates directly to your ping. Pinging a server more will not speed up the transfer; all it does is send more packets that have to be processed and returned by the server, which may in fact slow down your connection.

Sorry, I'm babbling. What I'm getting at is if you want lag-free gameplay, try to host games specifically for people on whatever continent you're playing from. If you live in the U.S., boot people playing from Europe or Asia. If you live in Australia, boot people playing from Europe or North America, etc. etc. Also, try to get the person with the best connection to host: someone hosting from a T1 leased line will run a much smoother game than a host on 768k DSL. There is very little that the developers can do without completely reworking how players are connected to each other.

[PSG1R3aPeR]

its not only the game, some ppls comps also lag, so ijji cant completely fix everythign

[1L0V3120llinHeads]

Do what maplestory did, block other countries IP and put it only for canada/usa. No laggers anymore.

Nice WOOO that would be awesome................stupid foreigners xD

[prifess]

well.. euro servers...

[bioreflex]

well.. euro servers...

if there would be euro server i would go there

[Turqo_Style]

Do what maplestory did, block other countries IP and put it only for canada/usa. No laggers anymore.



I'm from belgium and i see that i have a lower ping than most players in usa/canada.... my ping is about 100-130... But if there was a Europe server i would play there... :D
But i cant play anymore because of the play live button error!!!

[Mr.Evan]

Hey all. My two cents on the lag issue...

Basically it's the way the games are designed. Soldier Front is based on peer-to-peer data transfer with a central matchmaking server (very similar to Blizzard's battle.net) and is therefore far more subject to high latency problems (lag). The farther away from the host you are, the higher your ping is going to be. Counter-Strike, on the other hand, is server-client based. This means that your ping is unrelated to any other player that happens to be connected. Since every player is connected to a dedicated server, it handles all of the network traffic from every player. Lag compensation built into the servers is really only possible with a system like this.

Actually, that's backwards: your network connection has a far greater impact on lag than the PC itself. Physical distance that the data packet has to travel relates directly to your ping. Pinging a server more will not speed up the transfer; all it does is send more packets that have to be processed and returned by the server, which may in fact slow down your connection.

Sorry, I'm babbling. What I'm getting at is if you want lag-free gameplay, try to host games specifically for people on whatever continent you're playing from. If you live in the U.S., boot people playing from Europe or Asia. If you live in Australia, boot people playing from Europe or North America, etc. etc. Also, try to get the person with the best connection to host: someone hosting from a T1 leased line will run a much smoother game than a host on 768k DSL. There is very little that the developers can do without completely reworking how players are connected to each other.

Agreed.
So basically from this peer to peer situation,no matter how ijji ban foreign ip,the lag will still be there.
Especially those who has weak comp with dial-up and people who lagspike on purpose.

[SSJTrunks]

the lagg itself isnt people it is this game! i play fear and other games(high end games online) without lagg but soldier fronts lagg is brutal! i have a dual core 2gb ram, 500gb and 256mb vid card! and this game still laggs! so i just wanted to say it is the game not the people! ijji or dragonfly need to fix this bug fast! adopting new ping system may help with this...thats a big over haul though so dont see this happening.....
http://xfiresigs.com/SSJTrunks50.png (http://profile.xfire.com/ssjtrunks50)

[prifess]

+300ping = kick

and why I haven't got any "lag" in OFFICIAL games.
ex. if i play COD2 in an US server, i have like 160 ping but i dont have lag.

SO why do i have "lag" with Soldier front???? cause that are u Americans saying. that is the fault of the EU-players...

u American guys are so complaining like hell because we EU guys have 120-180 pings. but in fact U guys lag more then EU players.

[zuluss]

Agreed.
So basically from this peer to peer situation,no matter how ijji ban foreign ip,the lag will still be there.
Especially those who has weak comp with dial-up and people who lagspike on purpose.


yah umm sorry but this is kinda stupid and for you to suppor this is kinda stupid sorry to flame but.. how do you expect us to know if they are from or not from the USA when we are getten ready to launch the game

you dont see pings.. you cant see locations

so you can sit there and ask over and over again where you guys live i bet you 90% will say america if they know that ur kicking people non american

[Sh33p]

The only time I really care about laggers is in the morning when 500 pingers are around. Its really annoying killing them and them still slide around on there back and then you die the start of the next round.

[gorzzz]

I rekon this has to be the STUPIDIST S**T ever, I live in australia like many others that play, now ive spoken to some game developers in AUS about create us a Soldier Front server for just aussies and they wont due to ijji having so many people from world wide, NOW about the PING situation, IF you were smart enough people who live FURTHER away from the server have HIGHER PING, the closer u are the LOWER THE PING. Now not everyone lags, lag is generated by the PC not internet (unless dial-up which rare to seee now a-days) and I have an average of 182ping reason so high is because it gotta ping more to get to the gaming server faster. Ask all others from EU and AUS etc. what their ping average is, bet about same as mine. So not a good idea to only allow the USA coz so many will leave including US players and prolly then overrun the Jap SF.

*Hear Hear*....another Aussie who has his head screwed on.......(on soapbox) I'm getting sick of all the idiots who keep telling me that lag is always caused by ping...now I've played fear & mta online & seen guys with sub 50 pings and they still lag like crap....some of it is caused by having the video settings up too high etc etc etc...so wake up ppl....(off soapbox)
Gorzzz

Now I'll go & put on my asbestos coat now & wait for the flames....:lolz:

[bioreflex]

*Hear Hear*....another Aussie who has his head screwed on.......(on soapbox) I'm getting sick of all the idiots who keep telling me that lag is always caused by ping...now I've played fear & mta online & seen guys with sub 50 pings and they still lag like crap....some of it is caused by having the video settings up too high etc etc etc...so wake up ppl....(off soapbox)
Gorzzz

Now I'll go & put on my asbestos coat now & wait for the flames....:lolz:

FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME

[Sai]

I'm getting sick of reading these spam threads bashing people playing in other parts of the world. If I could, I'd infract half the people who posted in here -_-. They should put up a sticky warning people not to post this rubbish. I play from the US and I could care less if I was lag-sniped by a guy playing from a PC on the moon. You've been able to put up with it so long, so just deal with it already. Ijji said more servers and features would be added if this game were to become successful, but with all of this whining, I don't think that'll be any time soon.

[I_DONTAIMBOT]

:xd: how can cs and other that kind of games be w/o lag and this not?

not cool man i live in new york thats 3000 miles away from CA and my ping is 94 but i still but when i shoot someone they say i lag cause for me its takes like 1-5 seconds for someone to die me no like :xd:

[RoCkStAr_PuP]

how can cs and other that kind of games be w/o lag and this not?

Well 1 CS you pay for it and buy it in "selective" areas so u will not lag well SF every1 can play ive seen too many 500 pingers around and not enough 32 pingers and yes they sould IP ban those over 250 ping

[*Bootl3g*]

AND IF U C ANYONE SPEAK BRASILIAN, JUST I DONT GIVE A DAM JSUT ****ING BANN THEM FOR NOT BEING AMERICAN. LOOK AT KOREA U CANT JOIN WITHOUT A KOREAN ID. SMART *** ASAINS. ugh

u ****ing racist who cares im mexican i play sf, and who cares about lags its been up for 8 months now i've delt with it and so many other ppl did too, only stupid n00bs like u and others complain cause u suck if u cant deal with it dont play sf no more play something else

[WaRrAnT]

u ****ing racist who cares im mexican i play sf, and who cares about lags its been up for 8 months now i've delt with it and so many other ppl did too, only stupid n00bs like u and others complain cause u suck if u cant deal with it dont play sf no more play something else

Im not a noob, I dont like laggers, I cant deal w/ shooting someone 3 times in the head w/ my sniper to kill them just because they don't understand that this is NA SF, yes North American, the server is in a state in NORTH AMERICA... deal with that and get your own server.

[PwnM4n]

i like close to the server real close i have like 20 ping but i lag on in the first 2 rnds i play cuz my comp is old and it needs to warm up so ur comp does affect ur lag in someway but also ur connection i have dsl so i dont really lag unless my comp acts up

[Ownij_Inc]

lol yea bad connections alaggy comps are one thing.. but when u combine those two with 10,000 miles of distance between the players and the server.. u get incredibly ridiculous lag. and honestly.. like 150 and up is laggy. but id be happy to jus not see 170+. you have an asian version that those players could be playing, but they all cry about not being able to understand people.. well if they all went there.. they would understand eachother.. its not like i can understand the phillipinos and netherlanders ... but i dont go play elsewhere over it. get your laggy connections from your 2nd-3rd world countries out of american servers. not just sf... get out of all our games.

[Ownij_Inc]

umm if it takes 1-5 seconds for them to die and its everyone.. u need to get a broadband connection cuz ur either on dial up or some 600 mhz cpu with a video chipset on the motherboard and cant process the game fast enough.

[{J}Growl9]

Get the laggers out of here and limit the amount of ping.

[187]

this is a FREE game, i REPEAT FREE game, so it aint gona be perfect

[*Bootl3g*]

Im not a noob, I dont like laggers, I cant deal w/ shooting someone 3 times in the head w/ my sniper to kill them just because they don't understand that this is NA SF, yes North American, the server is in a state in NORTH AMERICA... deal with that and get your own server.

if u dont like laggers y r u playin if u know they r lots of laggers in each game, and i do live in north america u stupid b**ch i play laggers u dont see me complaing besides its A FREE GAME ITS NOT GONNA BE PERFECT

[itak]

I rekon this has to be the STUPIDIST S**T ever, I live in australia like many others that play, now ive spoken to some game developers in AUS about create us a Soldier Front server for just aussies and they wont due to ijji having so many people from world wide, NOW about the PING situation, IF you were smart enough people who live FURTHER away from the server have HIGHER PING, the closer u are the LOWER THE PING. Now not everyone lags, lag is generated by the PC not internet (unless dial-up which rare to seee now a-days) and I have an average of 182ping reason so high is because it gotta ping more to get to the gaming server faster. Ask all others from EU and AUS etc. what their ping average is, bet about same as mine. So not a good idea to only allow the USA coz so many will leave including US players and prolly then overrun the Jap SF.

you not being able to play is not ijjis problem... IJJI SF is ment for US and CA only. If you cant play, just deal with it.

[TehSpecialist]

Would not work 100%.

People with bad computers/internet or if they have wireless internet will still lag.

im on Wireless internet...no one complains about me lagging...except for that one guy with 350 ping...but thats beside the point...i dont lag on a wireless card...

[TehSpecialist]

you not being able to play is not ijjis problem... IJJI SF is ment for US and CA only. If you cant play, just deal with it.

yeah...some people rekon that the IJJI Soldier Front is International, here lemme tell you something.
IT AINT!
the only thing thats International is
IJJI GUNZ.
Gunbound Revolution was intended for NA but it welcomes foriegners. SOLDIER FRONT is intended for NA, but welcomes foriegners.

[mnkeybones]

if youre ping is over 370 for more then 2 minutes or less you should be auto kiked from SF downloading and such is just not thinking bout others

[mnkeybones]

if u dont like laggers y r u playin if u know they r lots of laggers in each game, and i do live in north america u stupid b**ch i play laggers u dont see me complaing besides its A FREE GAME ITS NOT GONNA BE PERFECT

its not a free game if you enjoy and decide to fund ijji. to keep up the good work if there was no G coin ever on ijji. theres funds would be low

[THE_DEADLY_DOG]

its not only the people above 250 its also the people below 90 that cause alot of havock. But honestly in order to fix this entire lag problem you would need new softwear newer servers and would need more money to continusely work on the problems. I don't see any of the three options there happening because this is a free game. It is great with little problems, and it would be amazing if we had to pay for it.

[Alt*F4]

Hey....your required to go to school by law right?
Grammar!

[{M4}Geo1072]

laggers it's mostly people that are't in North America how come they play USF especially asian people when i wake up to go to school at 5 i play for like 20 minutes and very one is from singapore 200+ ping except for me 78.... im not beign racist but they have 5 different asian special forces? am i right?

[{M4}Geo1072]

if u dont like laggers y r u playin if u know they r lots of laggers in each game, and i do live in north america u stupid b**ch i play laggers u dont see me complaing besides its A FREE GAME ITS NOT GONNA BE PERFECT
WHAT ARE youtalking about Jap sf IP Banns all foreigners and thats a free game so you can't say that; it's contradicting

[Old-Snake]

kay, 23 ppl are laggers on this thread.......IT IS OF COURSE A PROBLEM. SOOO MANY PPL QUIT SF CUZ OF IT. THEY LOOSIN MONEY CUZ OF THE LAG. IF THEY DONT PUT A EAST COAST SERVER. THEY WIULL GO BANKRUPT FOR SURE. if i had there financial records, i can give them exact month of when they go bankrupt without the east coast server.

[akamaruxa]

kay, 23 ppl are laggers on this thread.......IT IS OF COURSE A PROBLEM. SOOO MANY PPL QUIT SF CUZ OF IT. THEY LOOSIN MONEY CUZ OF THE LAG. IF THEY DONT PUT A EAST COAST SERVER. THEY WIULL GO BANKRUPT FOR SURE. if i had there financial records, i can give them exact month of when they go bankrupt without the east coast server.


lol ..are u dumb? a free game wont go bankrupt..not over lag (maybe over the glitchers an tappers)...theres alot of people who put up with it ..its just whinny little 3 yr olds who complain over every little thing an feel they should get there own way.

anyway back to the post itself...lag is a issue yes..but u have to take into consideration that when the person lags an they shoot u there bullets take awhile to affect u AND ur bullets take awhile to affect them. when a person lags it affects both sides of gameplay for that person. an laggers aren't all that hard to kill..i don't lag (actually once u have ping u lag in general (an yes even 10 ping is lag)) (around 150 ping ) an i take out 250 pingers with ease...all u have to do is know how to kill them..an a great way to kill them is distance..an using evasive tactics eg (using cover)...and NOT RUSHING headfirst into them (btw have u realized most high pingers SPRAY!)!

another thing this is a free game...expect lag..they aren't making much profit out of this game so unless u contribute something u shouldn't be ranting about s### in this game (except if its abusers like glitchers an tappers).if u don't like it i suggest u leave an join another game besides sf or leave the match ur in (something called alt f4) and join another.

another small note..as i mentioned before this is a free game...they need money to make a new server...and u also have to realize some people wont be so happy jumping to a new server and losing there rank and starting over with noob weapons.what i don't understand about something is that i presume u have all noticed the sub channels built for the tournament...besides leaving it lying there maybe they could open them up for the time being? and maybe after the tournament they can leave it there to allow more space...

an one final thing...in this game ive realized the ping shown doesn't always show if a persons lagging or not...basically because ive seen low pingers (like 50 ping) lag worst than 500 pingers....an ive seen it becoming more an more common.so i don't really trust sfs ping system anyway... i just go into a game an have fun if theres a bad lagger i live with it...i don't make it into a issue because complaining wont get rid of him..an this game isn't that important enough for me to waste my energy over complaining about faults.

[TehSpecialist]

another small note..as i mentioned before this is a free game...they need money to make a new server...and u also have to realize some people wont be so happy jumping to a new server and losing there rank and starting over with noob weapons.what i don't understand about something is that i presume u have all noticed the sub channels built for the tournament...besides leaving it lying there maybe they could open them up for the time being? and maybe after the tournament they can leave it there to allow more space...



NOOB WEAPONS? THE HELL ARE YOU SMOKING? they are all the same! at "noob" rank you can buy the K2, you can buy the FR-F2, i have no freaking idea what you mean by "noob" weapons...

[akamaruxa]

noob weapons meaning when u start the game sf restricts u from buying certain weapons eg..the shotgun..the m4a1..an the frf2 to name a few (u cannot buy them when u now start) thus u have to start off with the sprayer weapons...i kind of class those weapons they restrict u to as noob weapons..sorry if i offended u if u do use those weapons still.

[Vitovega]

I was about to betch about laggers from Mexico..Since I just played a whole CLAN! *Their organized*
I tried to explain to them that they can't play here cause it's unfair laggin wise..They said..
Get your people to do something about it.. Not our fault.. I also like how none of the G.Ms have commented on the subject..I say we I.P ban also you should ban Xfire! People can GLITCH easier with Xfire and this person was even teachin others how to..It's pathetic.. Also it takes TO LONG for me to upload every pic the format you want it so I just don't bother anymore..Lame..

[[Gx]Iron]

The problem with SF seems to be that the people who do lag... dont feel the lag... They just see differently from everyone else. I can't count the number of times people shoot me where i was 10-20 seconds ago and kill me because they see me there but im NOT there. In other games if you lag you tend to like freeze in spot... if only the laggers would freeze in spot in SF or move at the pace of a slug and feel like that slug :S

[darkansem]

In my opinion they should just set up servers in different parts of the world.....
once they get enough money and time for it of course =]

[bioreflex]

kay, 23 ppl are laggers on this thread.......IT IS OF COURSE A PROBLEM. SOOO MANY PPL QUIT SF CUZ OF IT. THEY LOOSIN MONEY CUZ OF THE LAG. IF THEY DONT PUT A EAST COAST SERVER. THEY WIULL GO BANKRUPT FOR SURE. if i had there financial records, i can give them exact month of when they go bankrupt without the east coast server.

if all foreigners like me who are not from use/can would be banned this game would be bankrupt coz we buy like 60% of all prems and items



and if its NA SF then why they dont ban us?
answer this and i give cookie

[Spartan_26]

umm, u can buy the m4 right away

[bioreflex]

umm, u can buy the m4 right away

??? http://asdf

[007JamesBond]

I like the idea about blocking I.P.'s of people from other countries, getting freaking annoying of people talking in diffrent languages and saying jaja when they kill you lol.

[Jinx]

Heres an idea...EUROPEAN AND ASIAN SERVERS!

[SexyWeapon]

won't work...people in other countries might have better internet connection, computer ...etc than ppl in USA or Canada =]

[bioreflex]

won't work...people in other countries might have better internet connection, computer ...etc than ppl in USA or Canada =]

actually in europe we have fast internet and pcs too i thnk thats not problem. problem is server location

[iBITEyou]

i hope you people realize that it isnt the computer causing lag. It's the server itself. Ijji needs to get better servers. See if you played KSF in America, you'd barely have over 50 ping, because of there good servers.

[DaBaLLer]

Heres an idea...EUROPEAN AND ASIAN SERVERS!

Different servers sound great. Then we can all be happy and love each other! :lust: LoL

[-HOTFUZZ-]

your vote answers are too vague. try putting GIVE US THE KICK FUNCTION NOW!

[HBK_BOY]

Nice WOOO that would be awesome................stupid foreigners xD

thats not very nice!

[Shmoes]

ffs THEY ARE trying idiot. it takes longer to find the solution than break it.

[schokomomoko]

i hope they improve it fast

[Raxus_]

Im so ****************ing tired of spiking from my normal ping of 60 to 300 i swear

[Air--ForceSF]

meh how about u guys try fixing it ur self and see if u can do better?

[HanKang]

Why aren't people complaining about the server lag?

[Spade916]

Why aren't people complaining about the server lag?

Its really bad!

[/complaint]

[[LG]-Neptha]

what do think the minimum ping should be then?

becuase i have 177 ping, n i dont think i lagg, i think ppl whos ping goes over 250 lagg, they should stop them type of ppl playing!

but what do think?

[lookitsme]

um, buy g coins? help them out, give them money for new servers ^^

[RedPhone]

Does this have anything to do with IJJI moving their HQ to Orange County? Why can't they move the servers last?

[Revenge]

The lagg is insane they NEED to fix it lol. :(

[shad0w]

the lag isnt that bad i dnt think u jus get the odd person/game that will lag. i think it due to the amount of ppl playing it and the servers cant handle it

[lilballa]

ah dam i hate laggers they make me so mad cuz its seirously hard to kill em with a sniper. they also jump like in the air for like twenty seconds doing the moonwalk............STEWIE FOR GOVERNER

[W1nd3x]

Would not work 100%.

People with bad computers/internet or if they have wireless internet will still lag.

I have wireless internet and my ping may go up to mabe 100 ping MAX. So yea... you think about that twice (I live in Canada..)

[DaBaLLer]

I agree with the other 124 people who think this lag is out of hand and need to be fixed. As you watch ksf and jsf videos. The people with sniper kill easily with one shot in the chest. With us, people claim shooting people's heads a lot(like 4 or 5 ) times and they will not die. I have experiences of shooting people 4 times above the chest and they would not die. Well, I'm thankful that Ijji is trying their best to make this a fun environment for us, so I'm just going to be patient and wait for further updates and information.

[gorzzz]

FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME FLAME

WOW!!!!!.....why is it soooo hot in here?? :P

[Air--ForceSF]

erm hate the lag not the lagger... enough said

[bennyturok]

your an idiot... if you blocked all other countries i wouldnt be able to play... i live in mex... my ping never goes above 120.... unless im downloading stuff... my idea would be to put 3 more servers around the world.... japan, uk, brazil and the current one..theirs allot of asians and brazilians in the game...

still.. 250 ping should be auto kick, or make it so the game cant start unless the ping is constant and less than 100 ms from the host... like if i have 70 ping only people with up to 170 could join... maybe round it to the nearest 100... so if i have 70, people with max of 200 ping could join..

that would work allot for all the chinese and brazilian players...

also eventually as i said before add more worldwide servers...

[wongalolo]

I think that we should be able to see ppl's PING before the match starts so that the Host can kick the high pingers.....

[Eduard]

When the instalation come up, test the internet connection and ping, if its to high tell them it doesn't support that internet connection, and end the the connection. Gone problem :)

[wongalolo]

Bump To The Top!

[I3ANG]

You're playing a FREE GAME, stop your god damn. QQing

[DaBaLLer]

BANG dont bump old posts. It's annoying. Don't post on this thread people, it's outdated.

[Layston]

The solution to the problem is quite simple: Give the hosts the ability to decide the Max latency of the players and that's it. Case closed. Period.

HINT FOR IJJI: Most games use a system in wich if a player has a ping much higher than ex. 300 for more than 10 seconds, the host automatically kicks the lagger (This is at the lobby).

[Sphinxmunkey]

The solution to the problem is quite simple: Give the hosts the ability to decide the Max latency of the players and that's it. Case closed. Period.

HINT FOR IJJI: Most games use a system in wich if a player has a ping much higher than ex. 300 for more than 10 seconds, the host automatically kicks the lagger (This is at the lobby).

I allready said that, I got de-repped by a lagger noob for it lolz

now I pwn rep :D

[ope_]

AND IF U C ANYONE SPEAK BRASILIAN...

its portuguese... How dumb can u be ?

[[TG]-Razor]

Lol Probly Thought Of But Just MAke It SO U Can See Peoples Ping In Waiting Room :D

[CNC_MATT]

Do what maplestory did, block other countries IP and put it only for canada/usa. No laggers anymore.

Discrimination..

[CNC_MATT]

-Razor;1069072']Lol Probly Thought Of But Just MAke It SO U Can See Peoples Ping In Waiting Room :D

I made a thread about that,.

[_vIn0tH_]

the gm's have fixed this.....people 99% dont tank shots anymore..

[Suinodrak]

Discrimination..

So what, it's certainly not illegal, ijji is in no way preventing citizens of the USA of certain races or ethnic backgrounds from using their service, that would likely cause problems, but they have every right to restrict citizens of OTHER COUNTRIES on SEPERATE CONTINENTS quite often, usage of their privately run, and funded service aimed toward serving the United States and Canada, and you know what... they SHOULD. The Korean Hangame does it, and much more strictly than a regional ip ban would, and already ijji has decided to not allow access from Japan, and likely Korea as well. All they need to do is finish the job, and the great majority of lag will dissapear. It also would provide a more incentive for companies and corporations in other countries to try to license or otherwise pick up some of these games for a similar business method. As it is now, why would any company in a country that does not have these games or service would want to pick it up, if the local people who want to play it would all rather be playing on the US service because it's farther along with item releases, even if they need to deal with the language barrier (comparatively small problem though, ijji being in English and all, and how common it is as a second language, or first even). Obviously they wouldn't want to, they wouldn't get any of the local business they would be aiming for because ijji happens to be further along.

[~Bungeh]

the lagg itself isnt people it is this game! i play fear and other games(high end games online) without lagg but soldier fronts lagg is brutal! i have a dual core 2gb ram, 500gb and 256mb vid card! and this game still laggs! so i just wanted to say it is the game not the people! ijji or dragonfly need to fix this bug fast! adopting new ping system may help with this

SF is free nubbeh.

CS + FEAR must be bought to play nubbeh.

EDIT: OH YEAH.... Don't make any more threads please. Obviously you dont use the search button. SO, just never post here again.

kthxbai.

[ZackyV]

yea....flame all u want but even people with 15 ping can lag.....my 150 isnt the worst ever but come on...somethings gotta be done...i say the GMs should put a 'blocker'...anyone over 200 = out

[CkpFoundJoo]

They are making a ping cap, welll thats what i heard and saw on the annnouncements and stuff.

They will prob fix the servers soon because people can't go choose a server.

[[[:0wnage:]]]

many ppl has ideas about the lag but it's not gonna get fixed anytime soon

[Faraz :D]

Would not work 100%.

People with bad computers/internet or if they have wireless internet will still lag.

Dude i have wireless internet i never lag....it depends on what internet u have...wire less dial up or wireless cable....

[DarkOsprey25]

As was said earlier and in other threads, high ping (150 - 230) does not always equal bad lag. If ijji did limit ping to below that or ban overseas IPs, it would not only be unfair to the overseas players who do have a decent ping average but also it would be unfair to those players in the US that have contact with those overseas players (clans etc). You can go on and on about the problems with lag but there never will be an end to it.

I also want to say to Sai, who posted earlier in the thread, that I admire your outlook and really appreciate what you said. Rep to you mate. :)

I'm not certain but in my opinion ijji wouldn't want to lose its overseas players (EU, AU etc) as there are so many of them. Perhaps sometime in the future ijji will release SF as retail and completely do away with all the problems we're speaking of now, only time will tell.

[4o*DoGG]

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5193/391199119816cn8.png

I wish the GM's would have enough time to fix it up.

[Jonny002]

:xd:

not cool man i live in new york thats 3000 miles away from CA and my ping is 94 but i still but when i shoot someone they say i lag cause for me its takes like 1-5 seconds for someone to die me no like :xd:

I live in New York too (and on Long Island to top it off) and I have 108-124 ping and a few times I drop to 92 ping. I did notice increase in the ping average. Few months ago it would be 2-3 people with 100+ ping and now its switched around so theres maybe 2 people with 1-100 ping and everyone else is in the 100-500 range. I guess since its free, be happy you are even here. I think my lag is from my 383MB RAM (lol)

[Mcdaddydad]

If They only made it for USA and Canada lots more people will be arngry alot more...

[rickyrudy]

Country blocks wouldnt be very fair now would it People will always complain about lag. Ive seen some one with 132 ping call a person with 14 - 30 ping a lagger and im like wtf? when i clearly have 200 hes the lagger and not me. wierd isn't it =D

[raptor]

dude u cant chnage da way u lag it depends on ur computer if its slow or fast if its fast than u no lagger if ur comp slow then ur a lagger ya cant just make ppl buy new computers... SCREW LAGGERS! XD XD XD

[Xenisis]

Originally posted by 4o*DoGG
I wish the GM's would have enough time to fix it up.

They probly do have enough time just they spend half of it not doing ijji related stuff.

[jonnyboy2]

for the last time.... dragonfly is the company that fixes all the stuff. gms just moderate the game... T_T

they just take the problem, send it to dragonfly, then get get a solution back.

[(+)-Joey-(+)]

i agree the lag is bad an i no i lag lol! sorry jus thought that was funny but if u have to sopt ppl playin to fix the problem i have alo tof m8s who dont lag an blackin ips of laggs aint such a bad idea id jus place more servers u neva no =]

[Channel_1]

Ping Limiter is coming. 250 Max ping, others cannot access server.

From a reliable source.

Thanks -- Don't get mad, get glad!

[RoyalLimit]

Ping Limiter is coming. 250 Max ping, others cannot access server.

From a reliable source.

Thanks -- Don't get mad, get glad!

Where did you get your info from?

[[Sy]-Snake-]

Thats a question I'd like to know the answer too.

[-blOOdshOt-]

i can't wait for ping limmiter to come out

[Channel_1]

Got it from a pro player. A sniper who gets over 40 kills - 10 in avg game. :)

[redrumpsg1]

i have an idea... to take out laggers how abaut make an ingame thing that u decide the ping you want ranging from 0-500 and or hae anotherthing that sees wher the pople come from and have an ingame fonction that u want what country u want them to be from like canada us ....etc.

[redrumpsg1]

and o yea why not create new servers wher it says the ping max like have 5 servers 1st ranging from 0-100 2nd 101-200 3rd 201-300 4th 301-400 5th 401-500 and yea thats it... thanks redrum.

[[Pro]]

kinda slow dude..

[TOM CRUISE]

you should attempt to block all foreigers or any other alien players.many players purposly lag themselves for a better expiriece lag shots whitch =more kills they use netlimiter

[[[:0wnage:]]]

ya this is already a known issue but we can't do anything about the lag cuz ppl have bad internet connections and bad computers and if you try to email a person working for ijji they'd probably take awhile to email u bak or never email you at all

[1_(V)an_Army]

I would LOVE TO SEE Forein IPs Banned... Japan did it, i think Thailand did it.. im sure Korea did or will.... Come on.. Why do we have to be the odd ones out with more expencive items for a smaller selection? I know of 25-35 peolpe that quit over the last 2 months... Please Improve SF i dont want to leave too...


http://forums.ijji.com/showthread.php?t=163641 <---Another Suggestion that u might like

[luvv2aimbot]

idiot they cant just fix it over night it takes time and money...

[JohnnyTanasis]

With all the people buying G coin's that shouldn't be a problem, as well as the mass downtimes, us ijji users have to put up with.

[Wet_noodle]

Games are run on servers hosted from countries such as sf,s Usa so the further the way the longer to send and receive information to clear that up.

How is it fair blocking Uk, Eu countries i bet some money for this game comes from uk people which keep it going like myself i buy items using g coins and im uk ,i play the game for friends etc not to be bullied out of it because i try my best to minimize lag. How about we ban american people from cs that was originally uk based. My point is dont penalize people think of ways we can help. Such as more advertisement get other countries involved giving them money towards some eu or other country based servers that way everyone is happy.

[venom799]

its ok just the babbys on sf or on ijji for that matter but still.

[-=[MaXe]=-]

people over 250 ping = kicked off immediatly

That's fine with me, as 250 or higher is like, only something that can happen
if you are either making your latency higher by intention (as in getting so much
lag people cant kill you, or people with such a bad internet connection they shouldn't
be playing SF).

Now, the problem is distance, even the idiots which says: "NOOB! IT ISNT DISTANCE",
well i do study this gentlemen, and it is not only about the connection, but also distance.
From denmark to ijji servers = 170-185 latency, it cannot change even if the user was on
a 100mbit connection. (this is 4500miles we're talking about, yes i calculated it)

But i don't mind anything about 250 wouldn't be excepted, but what about spikes?

Also, i think the ijji servers has a problem with their contention methodes/control or their
network flow. The latency from here to the ijji servers, should be able to become 120-135
or maybe even lower if they optimised their servers.

~ MaXe

PS: That's my 2 cents :D
PPS: Don't come say i'm wrong, i know what i'm speaking of.

PPPS: As the poster said above me, a lot of the money comes from people like me, as in
the people from europe, are usually older, more mature, and actually plays the game fair
and square (no hacking). Most people i know from EU does, so i don't think banning EU
would help against the hackers.

So ijji would definently loose money if they banned all "foreigners" as some people likes
to call us, facists i say as there's not 1 country which is supreme or better than any other
country at all, the country might be bigger, but that doesn't equate that they're better.
(i think equate was the right word, if not then equal to could be used as well.)

[UnT_JaSon*]

i Picked The 3rd One

[ISurprisEI]

My half-assed (can i say that?) idea which i thought of today was to view players ping in the lobby!! that way hosts could kick laggers before the game started, and people could determine whether or not to waste their time + kick their KD in the nuts or not.

P.S. sorry if any1 mentioned this, but theres no way in hell im reading through 13 pages.

[Herk1ne]

There's an idea compilments of Stick Arena. All laggers are shifted to a lagger server.

[faully_snipez]

Hey all. My two cents on the lag issue...

Basically it's the way the games are designed. Soldier Front is based on peer-to-peer data transfer with a central matchmaking server (very similar to Blizzard's battle.net) and is therefore far more subject to high latency problems (lag). The farther away from the host you are, the higher your ping is going to be. Counter-Strike, on the other hand, is server-client based. This means that your ping is unrelated to any other player that happens to be connected. Since every player is connected to a dedicated server, it handles all of the network traffic from every player. Lag compensation built into the servers is really only possible with a system like this.

Actually, that's backwards: your network connection has a far greater impact on lag than the PC itself. Physical distance that the data packet has to travel relates directly to your ping. Pinging a server more will not speed up the transfer; all it does is send more packets that have to be processed and returned by the server, which may in fact slow down your connection.

Sorry, I'm babbling. What I'm getting at is if you want lag-free gameplay, try to host games specifically for people on whatever continent you're playing from. If you live in the U.S., boot people playing from Europe or Asia. If you live in Australia, boot people playing from Europe or North America, etc. etc. Also, try to get the person with the best connection to host: someone hosting from a T1 leased line will run a much smoother game than a host on 768k DSL. There is very little that the developers can do without completely reworking how players are connected to each other.


soldier front is peer to server, you can see your own ping so its a peer to server game, Gunz which is a peer to peer game your ping says 0 on your screen because your ping is different to every person

also another way to tell is:

player A looks at his screen and it says player B's ping is 100, player B looks at his screen and it says player A's ping is 250. << that is how soldier front is, that is not peer to peer that is peer to server since player a and b's pings aren't the same,

player A looks at his screen and it says player B's ping is 100, player B looks at his screen and it says player A's ping is 100. <<< that is peer to peer since the pings are the same, its just like if a site can only upload at 250 kbps but you can download at 10mbps you will only download at 250 kbps,

and their bringing in ping limiter anyway thats gonna be set at 150 ping, if u don't believe me wait about 2 or 3 months maybe less.

but when they do they will lose majority of players since i only see about 10 people a week with ping less then 150

[SsSgOnEsSs]

i agree we really need to do something about this. cause. 500 pingers like its crazy u kill them u run around a wall or w.e and u die. by the person u killed 10 seconds ago it is very horrible i agree wit the person sed anyone above 250 ping should not be allowd to play.

[~Bungeh]

i agree we really need to do something about this. cause. 500 pingers like its crazy u kill them u run around a wall or w.e and u die. by the person u killed 10 seconds ago it is very horrible i agree wit the person sed anyone above 250 ping should not be allowd to play.

Good job bumping this rotting thread.

[§pillz]

I think laggers are stupid hobo that can't even aford a decent computer.... I mean this game isn't asking for much look at the graphics.

[Samrad]

9 times out of 10 it will be "the lagger" that suffers a death or other bad effects. I agree there should be a few high-speed and lower speed rooms, and continental rooms, but have a majority of whoever wants to play here rooms. Seriously, stop being such elitist babies about dying once to someone who lags 'cuz they die way more and don't complain. Summary: Be a good sport whether you win or lose.

[´temur]

If there was a 'lag' server put in, what would the ping limitations be?

[*shot_dead*]

Take Out The Fricken Lag Now!

[Mushsushi]

btw, where'd u come up with this survey with end 12/29/2034 at 4:14?? totally random really...

[Andrespwns]

man i hate laggs

[dmvg{ownsu}]

his idea is : or place a server into europe. or raise the FPS limit.

[Marbus]

Its possiable to have a lagg free server even on a Dial up connection, the problem the way the Server runs, i know when i used to play Wolfeinstein Enemey Territory on The DWK server, it was lagg free even for people with a 999 ping could play lagg free.

[Samrad]

If there was a 'lag' server put in, what would the ping limitations be?

Connection based, not ping. For dial-up users it would NEED to be regional. West coast US players against west coast US players, east US vs. east US etc. Broadband connection only room for those who think the DSL people are lagging them. :doh:

The P2P way of connecting people does seem like an inferior way of handling the rooms from what I understand. I guess it's cheaper, but so is the gameplay in turn. :no:

[LegionSnipe]

Yes this has gone to far. every single game has more then HALF of laggers over 200 ping... i got a screen shot of the whole GAME all 400-500 ping cept me.... they started to kick me cuz i didnt lag.... the game had 12 fps the whole time

[lolwtfbbqhax]

okamy myself lag ask anyone who played with me they think i hack but i dont.

by ping is around 400 (wireless) and when i press tab everyone is 400 2 me because we share the same ping to each other. also i c that people can take me down in 1 shot.

[zach91101]

the only problem is that now everytime u kill some1 the person u killed gets angry and makes an excuse and calls u either a lagger,tanker,glitcher,waller,hacker, or tappper. just because they didnt c u or they dont have skill, i dont lagg i have at highest 108 ping, i have a wireless internet connection that gets 5 bars wherever i go in my house, i dont lagg, i dont actually know what a waller or tapper is or what they do and im not smart enought to hack and if i glitched i wouldnt be out in the open shooting u i would be in a car,box, or something like that, and finally tankers always have 400+ ping. it is extremely annoying and i would be more worried about excuses than bad internet connections. not only that but i am not good at SF, i am a COD4, Halo 3 dude, if i did any of that cheating crap dont u think i would have good stats?

[[WILD]]

english speak good you do

[Tailers]

tbh an FPS limit would own, since getting shot once more when ur behind a wall doesnt matter to much, but people hoovering around the map and constantly shooting when ur behind the wall just because you are still there on their screen now that bugs me.

And I hear ALOT of people dont even reach the 20 fps, im at 32 every game :zip:

[nVidia8600GT]

God...

I don't think half of you realize that people can not help the fact that they lag, and you don't, get the F*CK over it, i am so sick and tired of this, whenever me and my buddies play together, some other people join and won't stop complaining about the lag, and won't just Alt+Tab to keep their XP.

The is no such thing as a "Lagger" in the sense people use it in, they are always acting like you do it on purpose Because They're always convinced Every random stranger is out there to ruin his/her fun.

If ijji is to fix this, the Server and Room list should have a Ping meter, like showing what your ping would be if you joined that game, Like in COD4, HL2DM, TF2 and every other Multiplayer game ever.

On another note for more idiots, Just because you see someone run partway into a crate and through part of it, is not Glitching, the game is free and not perfect, and stuff like that happens.

And to ijji, please add at least 2x MSAA option, it would be nice, and remove 3rd Person POV, When snipers are using it, especially in shanghai, they hid behind a box on the docks by the sub, go into 3Rd POV and they can see whoever is coming without revealing themselves which is a cheap-*** tactic.

[QuickSc0p3]

wow 354 people go on killercons side xP

[russ227]

i think sf has a server lagg issues

[_-BaM-_]

Do what maplestory did, block other countries IP and put it only for canada/usa. No laggers anymore.Yeah i agree, all the asian Soldier Fronts have blocked access to other countries.:clap:

[TugaHawk]

Do what maplestory did, block other countries IP and put it only for canada/usa. No laggers anymore.

that wouldn't work... ijji would get a lot of bad reputation and there's no global / europe SF

[SknZ]

Yeah i agree, all the asian Soldier Fronts have blocked access to other countries.:clap:

Thats incorrect. Just need a Citizen ID from where i play.. and I hve a ID generator to get multiple accounts. :xd:

[mkgow98]

they shud create another ijji place/company wadeva thing sumwhere in asia den no lag...but to ex...or ijji shud juz make group i mean like example im from singapore and u from america i cannot join america server n america cannot join singapore server ..if u wan get in america server u muz get ip address correct ..so no lag..

[AN94godd]

ijji aint gonna ban dirty foreigners cuz the g coins they buy

buck all the 200+ pingers

they shud all die or find a game in THEIR OWN COUNTRY

[AN94godd]

ijji sucks

[UnglorifiedAnswer]

just putting in my 2 cents worth,............. how about people, how take more than 8 seconds to load the game, should just recieve an error and be dissconnected

( the 7 seconds is inregard to slow computers, average non gamer computers take 7 seconds to load into the game, ive run multiple experiments to work this out, so anyone with a good computer, should take 1-2 seconds laoding into the game)

also, if off topic, hosts that have the lag effect of being in the loading screen, auto kick after 10 seconds, and inventory hosts auto kick immediatly :D

dont flame :D peace love and chicken grease

[the_green_man]

just putting in my 2 cents worth,............. how about people, how take more than 8 seconds to load the game, should just recieve an error and be dissconnected

( the 7 seconds is inregard to slow computers, average non gamer computers take 7 seconds to load into the game, ive run multiple experiments to work this out, so anyone with a good computer, should take 1-2 seconds laoding into the game)

also, if off topic, hosts that have the lag effect of being in the loading screen, auto kick after 10 seconds, and inventory hosts auto kick immediatly :D

dont flame :D peace love and chicken grease

i dis agree cuz as i know and some ppl now i can load in 1-2 seconds but some times it will take longer so the idea is not the best cuz there r ppl out there that do not lagg but take longer then 8 seconds to load my averge is 1-2 seconds or 5 seconds but every one has the game when they load slow but they do not lagg....

:afro::zzz:

[zKiRbYz]

Stop creating threads like this please...
Nothing's gonna change.

[neogto]

thats completely wrong.... if thay was the case then we would have every weapon thta wasnt evl and we would have more armor and stuff.... cose thai sf came out like what this year right? and it has evl_mp5 already and every gun that isnt evl.... and thay dotn have eny lagg problems what so ever...

that and ijji. has most of the items already but refuse to release them... and thay said that thay r not going to do ip blocking cose it would be unfair to those that payed for gcoin that dosent live in in north America... also when the beta of the game was being tested, thay stated that this was for NA (mexico usa and canada) witch thay decided to change.... and if this game hostes all the euro nations then there is no reson to give them servers cose thay can play on ours and not get banned...

explain that u ****ing moron?

[neogto]

Stop creating threads like this please...
Nothing's gonna change.

who died and make u king of the gms.... gtfo of our forums noob *****

also we know ijji wont do anything this is a discussion of how we hate ijji and what thay could do.... even if thay dont do it... so i dont care what u have to say th lag is so bad that if i shot u in the head 25 times at point blank with an m249

ud then say lol after killing me with a glock in the foot with 1 shot on my screen..... i think thats something that needs fixing

[Snipe_4_Fun]

O.o Way to many ppl lag.. Ping wise. Always around 6 or more.. ppl with 250+ ping in every game I go to.. Alot of them have 300 now adays >_>

[UnknownMan]

Well some of the 150 pingers are actually US players because they download sutff.

[butterball]

the lag is not that bad but still need to be fixed definatly i hate when like 400 pingers lag the entire game its fcked up but i think glitchers are way worse thatn lagggers !!
anyone with me on that??

[IPblockerPLZ]

Ok I Agree This Is N/a=north America Not Peru Not Mexico Not Africa Not Brazil!!!!! Canada/usa Only!!!!!!!!! Put A Damn Ip Blocker On! *less Lag More Usa/canada Peeps Buy G Coins, If They Want Their Own Sf Beg To Their Damn Government It's Not Our Problem! (foriegners Gtfo!)

[UnknownMan]

Heres an idea...EUROPEAN AND ASIAN SERVERS!

Ummmm there are Asians and Europeans in America, I think you are trying to say Put servers in Europe and Asia

[aeromax3275]

people worry about lagging and asking gms to fix this...
gms will probaly fix this instead of fixing the problem with those people who cant play sf

[Gregst4]

If they put ip block they will lose lots of customers and people will still lag from downloads and bad computers. Laggers cant be stopped. The best thing to do is if you see a 250+ pinger in your game then just convince your team or the other team to use the kick function and get rid of him.

[JJku]

Would not work 100%.

People with bad computers/internet or if they have wireless internet will still lag.

Believe it or not it will still get rid of MOST of the laggers. The remaining laggers will be either in possession of bad internet/bad graphics card. It helps A LOT. You have NO IDEA how many EU players there are on Ijji.

[JJku]

who died and make u king of the gms.... gtfo of our forums noob *****

also we know ijji wont do anything this is a discussion of how we hate ijji and what thay could do.... even if thay dont do it... so i dont care what u have to say th lag is so bad that if i shot u in the head 25 times at point blank with an m249

ud then say lol after killing me with a glock in the foot with 1 shot on my screen..... i think thats something that needs fixing

Very true o.o

[Alphaman]

AND IF U C ANYONE SPEAK BRASILIAN, JUST I DONT GIVE A DAM JSUT ****ING BANN THEM FOR NOT BEING AMERICAN. LOOK AT KOREA U CANT JOIN WITHOUT A KOREAN ID. SMART *** ASAINS. ugh

First of all, there's no such language named BRASILIAN....it's portuguese you dumb racist. Secondly, What the hell do the asians have to do with the brazilians? Did you miss your geography classes or you're just ******ed?
And finally banning people for not being american shows the great education that you had... Learn something about cultural diversity, and BANN people like you, xenophobist

[Cirus]

Would not work 100%.

People with bad computers/internet or if they have wireless internet will still lag.

I use wireless and I dont lag, 74 Ping with Wireless.
Never been called a lagger, unless it was a noob being owned by me
and then they have to make a excuse.
^_^

[HelloKittyisland]

The lowest ping i've had is 94 and i live in new zealand =o where ever that's. I don't know why people complain you get bad games and good games no matter what, either way people just whinge and whine nothing will change just like little children in the play pit with there trucks " NO THATS MY TONKA TOY... NO ITS MINE YOU BASTARD "... something like that if you. Or we could just throw stones at glass houses and wacth em smash :thumbsup: its only a game people... but i know some people that take this game serouisly sit in there mothers basements its ok i know what your scared of. Thought those people used to be nice people until they started whinging and crying i think concentration camps would be great more productivity to the economys errrrr. HELLO KITTY ISLAND OWNS THE GAME OWNS IT SO ROCKS!!!!!. btw i hope you love hello kitty island its a great game postively the most graphic disturbance of a childs mind to a meat ball stuck to a window weird huh?.

[SenQi]

The yellow hurts my eyes=( but I get your point. Also if they would only make it for US and Canada they would loose major income since none of the people in other countries will buy G-coins anymore. Also automatic kicking for ppl with a ping above xxx seems stupid since if you got a little lag burst and go over it for a millisecond you just wasted your time on a whole game and your kicked.. Also as soon as someone taps I get a huge lag where I can't move but all the others can, that goes over in 2-3 rounds..=(

[sup3rkababi]

The game terminated by an unknown error. We Apologize for this inconvenience

I allready reinstall it and it still keeps on happening.
And Iam using windows vista.

PLEASE TELL ME WHAT DO I NEED TO DO TO FIX IT


>>>THANK YOu!!!!<<<

[Andrespwns]

ya i hate laggers they piss me off

[Andrespwns]

ya i hate laggers they piss me off

[Andrespwns]

ya i hate laggers they piss me off

[-Pent-]

Nice lag post.

[z1ggy]

lmao. indeed, also i must say just kick people that have ping over 250. its just really unfair when laggers tele in front of you who just appear and kill you and start saying OH I OWNED YOU!! HA-HA and ill be like (*put something really inapporpriate and racial here*)

So it would be really nice of Ijji to just kill the ping problem.

[916KING]

i think he was trying to make a point... xD

[Fox General]

whoever said if you have wireless internet you will lag made me laugh.
I have wireless internet and I dont lag. Infact my ping is exactly the same. 50-80 ping, east coast ftw.
Plus this laptop is like 400 bucks....(getting a better one in about 2 weeks)

^ that is about as bad as it gets. I dont lag in the least. Its everyone eles that makes me want to $*&#$ #$&*@* #$#$*@ #$#@!

[sniperkilla]

little late there buddy....

[sniperkilla]

yuppers
..........

[SniperMaikel]

jzus can u cry more??? if u hate it so much, just leave. are u so stupid to think about that???

[redmen]

GMS should put a ping limater !!\

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f336/AdamVincent777/VeXeD-1.png

[adusebe]

160+ pingers are really fkn annoying the worst part when you tell laggers to gtfo they tell you you lag when you dont

[CallItPro]

well if there was that measn the word wasn't ou tout there.....COME OEN TELL ALL UR FREINDS I KNO 23 PEOPEL THAT HABE QUIT INT EH PAST WEEK

learn how to spell? atleast that we can understand, and i bet your solution is BAN THE FORINGERS....well that is never gonna happen...so goodbye with your idea

[ijte002]

just isolate it so no more mexicans can play

[alengendarydonut]

i hate the friggen lag shots my ping is like in the 20s-30s in every game but soldier front i think we need a new connecting tower somewhere new new england and stop letting foriegn players sign up
it should be for europe and america only bnot austraila and asia and spec africa and anartica

[alengendarydonut]

ijji isnt going to do anything there to lazy playying with there money they riped off of us!

[z1n]

The Problem is simple to fix Introduce a Central and Eastern server.

[1337l3ader]

The Problem is simple to fix Introduce a Central and Eastern server.

more servers= more money for them to pay= more money for people to pay for g coins= no more free game= us pay money to play, duh??? money doesnt grow on tree's

[drew7993]

i lol'ed at this post rofl

[fatboyx16]

dude
that ping limiter would suck
CSS already has ping mostly under control
but thats because they actually use real servers
not some lagging noob's computer
agreed?
if sf had game hosting with actual servers, no doubt would there be an
insane decrease of overall ping
therefore, i agree with z1n
but not just two servers should be used
3 should be able to help significantly
west coast,middle east (rofl i mean midwest), and east coast

[lxDeViLxl]

It's too late for IJJI to ban FOREIGNERS as you may have seen ALOT of 150+ pingers who are not from US with G-COINed armors and they have spent ALOT of money for this ''laggy'' game that u say.

So, i've got a brillianté plan!

1. Make diff servers for diff. continents/nations.

International Server
US Server
European Server
Asian Server
[althought its quite costly, well i think it can be worthwhile in the long run.]
2. Close entry for Foreigners during your nation's morning time and open it during ur sleeping time!
[although i think u guyz got diff. time zones]
[if u dont want lag dont play during midnight . its not OUR fault..]

K thx, +rep [yes] -rep[no way]

LOL.

[EviLCorsaiR]

...Not another bunch of US kids crying about all the lag.

Basically, IJJI's money > you. They care more about their money input from foreigners than how happy their US players are. They're gonna do NOTHING about it, no matter HOW hard you cry and beg.

If you want a US only game where foreigners are banned, go play on Combat Arms, or in the WarRock US server. It's as simple as that.

[h!tmanspade]

it's not that bad...

[lEDlmilk]

...Not another bunch of US kids crying about all the lag.

Basically, IJJI's money > you. They care more about their money input from foreigners than how happy their US players are. They're gonna do NOTHING about it, no matter HOW hard you cry and beg.

If you want a US only game where foreigners are banned, go play on Combat Arms, or in the WarRock US server. It's as simple as that.

well said
+rep

[IwischIculdTipe]

Zomg I have an idea 2!!!! How about you Uninstall Soldier Front, stop whining, stop thinking your the only person with an idea to improve a FREE game, and IF a gm actually talks to you (which will never happen) they will just shoot down your idea within 30 seconds.

[Rotsae]

i'm just mad at how they cap the game at 32 fps. who the hell thought of that idea! ... umm make every1 lag as much to make the game fair. well some of us can get probally 300+ fps, but no we can't cuz they cap it.

[MJM128]

The ironic thing is the majority of the people that yell out "lagger" generally lag.

[OutNumbaJordi]

well i lag to sometimes but a 14 pinger cna lag to cause of his pc <.<
my ping is 172 cause im from belgium
like 60 % is over the 100 ping

[grrrrrrrr]

I don't think the Gm's will ever do anything about the massive lag in the game....I guess we just have to wait til esf comes out & the majority of laggers leave this sf..

[Snog123]

i made a poll about this not 2 long ago i think 250+ pingers should be not aloud 2 play they ruin the game
ive been playing this game ever sence it came out and im about 2 quit cause of these 250+ pingers its horrid kill them then 5-10 seconds later u die once there already dead i think IJJI SHOULD MAKE A PING LIMITER!

[Jim Halpert]

I made an account yet I can't even post up a topic in the forum???

[khailey92]

all lagger are easily get pawn by me.
hhmm....:wink:

http://sfront.ijji.com/myclan/home.nhn?guildid=2PRO4FPS <-----CLICK HERE

[adusebe]

DUDE 150+ pingers are fkn laggers dont try to tell me 250+ only lag because this is fkn wrong im sick of pingers they think they're gd because lag is doing there thing DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PINGERS ARE NOT WELCOMED I CANT BELIEVE THEY STILL PLAY FCK

[soccer8595]

many people agree with me and are very very angry... i have a suggestion for soldier fornt which i think would greatly improve it.. my problem is too many people lagg... to fix this i have come up with an idea but i only want to realewase my idea to the gm's and not everyone else so they can take credit

lol u think u sound so smart and even if they use ur idea no ones gonna give any... my idea is to put games that classifies people under 100 ping rooms under 200 ping rooms under 300 ect. This way the game gets fair and if u are one of the laggers boo hoo for u find some people like u..

[roxy]

ijji is going to make sf north america exclusive because they'll lose money
they should make it like call of duty where there is ping limits the host of the room can choose from

[AddictedZeph]

roxy has a pro idea

[KHALID95]

put a server for east and west for both countries

[evans44l]

WE NEED PING LIMITERS!!!!ALL OTHER GAMES HAVE THEM!!!Y NOT US!!!!ALOT OF MY FRIENDS HAVE QUIT PLAYING BECAUSE OF LAGG AND IM NOT FAR BEHIND!!!other countrys have taken over our game servers and it makes for a non fair game. its not fair to have a 78ping and playing 150-500pingers and on top of that they talk crap like they are pro even thoe it is just them lagging. ive played this game since pre bata and it has gotten better but now its people outside the usa who are ruining it!!!:upset:

[fatboyx16]

WE NEED PING LIMITERS!!!!ALL OTHER GAMES HAVE THEM!!!Y NOT US!!!!ALOT OF MY FRIENDS HAVE QUIT PLAYING BECAUSE OF LAGG AND IM NOT FAR BEHIND!!!other countrys have taken over our game servers and it makes for a non fair game. its not fair to have a 78ping and playing 150-500pingers and on top of that they talk crap like they are pro even thoe it is just them lagging. ive played this game since pre bata and it has gotten better but now its people outside the usa who are ruining it!!!:upset:

ping limiters?
wtf?
i guess what you trying to say is an autokick system if they pass a certain ping
we all spike once in a while
what we need is sf to not support dial up and an ip ban on australia and brazil
people like [WILD] who live in australia are going to have to move to the USA to play usf

[Fallenangel02]

In gaming
ping (video games)
In network multiplayer games like Unreal Tournament, Quake, Battlefield 2142, etc., the server notes the time it requires for a game packet to reach a client and a response to be received. This round-trip time is usually reported as the player's 'ping'. It is used as an effective measurement of the player's lag, with lower ping times being desirable. Note that this style of ping typically does not use ICMP packets.

Ping is a computer network tool used to test whether a particular host is reachable across an IP network; it is also used to self test the network interface card of the computer, or as a speed test. It works by sending ICMP “echo request” packets to the target host and listening for ICMP “echo response” replies. Ping estimates the round-trip time, generally in milliseconds, records any packet loss, and prints a statistical summary when finished.

There is your definition of ping for all of you high pingers who just use the excuse that it is only distance in the game.

[IownYou2112]

Gm please help me i was in a game of a 3v3 i wasent doing anything bad... and this guy called m0n3ym4n was calling me names and he was making fun of my being canadian and saying bad things about my mom and i was not really happy and when ever i died he was making fun of me and saying u suck........ and u suck at life and called me a pus(sy) alot so can u please help and ip ban him if u dont i will quit.... please email me crazy_but_cool_69@hotmail.com:mad:

[xElite]

Gm please help me i was in a game of a 3v3 i wasent doing anything bad... and this guy called m0n3ym4n was calling me names and he was making fun of my being canadian and saying bad things about my mom and i was not really happy and when ever i died he was making fun of me and saying u suck........ and u suck at life and called me a pus(sy) alot so can u please help and ip ban him if u dont i will quit.... please email me crazy_but_cool_69@hotmail.com:mad:

Just wanted to say? Wtf?

Anyways.
I do admit I complain about lag sometimes, but you people have to learn how to deal with it. Stuff happens, but in the end you can careless about lag becuase after all it's just a game, right? I mean seriously, get over it or find another game becuase you are going to have to endure it for a long time if you don't quit.

[Mitch040]

Gm please help me i was in a game of a 3v3 i wasent doing anything bad... and this guy called m0n3ym4n was calling me names and he was making fun of my being canadian and saying bad things about my mom and i was not really happy and when ever i died he was making fun of me and saying u suck........ and u suck at life and called me a pus(sy) alot so can u please help and ip ban him if u dont i will quit.... please email me crazy_but_cool_69@hotmail.com:mad:

That happends to me every day. That's just how this community is you got to deal with it. Just ignore them and aslong you don't do anything you're fine.

[ohmygod123]

What if ijji made a program that said if you have 200+ping that you can't play Sf? Like automatically d/c u? Would that work?

[*mD]Fatality]

What do you expect. Almost all the forumers have ranted about this for a year now. Ijji probably just dont have the money and time for a ping limiter, or they just dont care

[FatalPhantom]

it's very unlikely money has anything to do with why they don't have it yet.

[moosh44]

who cares if people lag its fine with me!!!

[FaithGFX]

I don't think the lag is unbearable until 250+, that is were it gets bad, especially 500, now that is a horrible ping to verse.

[xElite]

Lol, I can care less about laggers as long as I'm not the victim.

[ProdigyRestore]

=/ They should fix it to make the players more freely enjoyed.

[ProllyDaBest]

lol, nearly 800 votes

[gio848]

the creators of SF NEED to fix this, make ping regulators, HELL even just change the name of the channels from "officer room 1" to something like NORTH AMERICA Server or something cuz i'm so ******* SICK and tired of playing in rooms FULL of people that are 200+ ping and lagg like no freaking tomorrow!!! its an EXTREAM piss off and it appsolutely ruins the game for me!!

get ping regulators for servers, 1-150 for north america, 150 - 250 for another area, and so on and so on

i'm so sick and tired of playing people who kill you before they even actually come around the corner

laggers might as well be glitchers their THAT BAD!


:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[PrOScOpE]

Well in the Servers they shud put European servers etc. so this minimizes the lagg on sf :D

[Bewiz]

Lockin gout other countrys wont solve your problem.
People can bypass it easily.

Plus ijji would not do it, as they allow other countrys to purchase there G-Coins, Now, What if you spent allot of your money on G-Coins on soldier front, and one day you could never play it again? How annoyed would you be then?

Let me guess, you will probally answer to this, "Im in the US/Canada, so i dont care, get the others out!" A selfish comment indeed.


One way of narowing down this situation is putting another Server in another country, Like one in eurpose perhaps, It would take care of around 70% of lag issues.
The other 30% is due to players computers.

I've played against a player with 19 Ping, Yet he would lag like a 500 Pinger due to his computer being so... "Old".

Think about it before you start crying and being selfish.

[soccerbmxheels24]

Solution = ban all foreign IP's

[JiNkALlAmA]

Lagging is the problem its makes nno dam sense
I shot a noob 15 times no dead.............................................. ...... With AK.:zip:http://forums.ijji.com/images/smilies/default/no.gif:clap::(:(:(

[Patricknian3]

Do what maplestory did, block other countries IP and put it only for canada/usa. No laggers anymore.

they should block every one with higher than 200 ping:king:

[helRazor]

Yeah.. its cause of the laggers

[leevaku3]

There is ksf , jsf , tsf and usf so far as i have noticed , but why not too an europe sf then if usf doesnt want us.

[DeMonExister]

I doubt anything is going to happen for the fact that most Foreigners or 'Laggers' buy many G-coins fro IJJI. and IJJI wouldnt want to loose money so they want it this way. Even if people leave, They end up not loosing anything. Just a few players compared to 10K players.

I would say they should just add a Ping Viewer on The menu to tell who has high ping and who doesnt. Cant be that hard can it??

Maybe this is why people call USF Universal Soldier Front, Its Universal.
Some people call it USASoldierFront. But i would say its Universal because anyone can play this game.

[AverySpartan]

The laggy computers i can understand but remember this, USF stands for Universal Soldier Front. Except for some countries in which there ip's have been Banned. So as much as you want to do something about, nothing can happen really unless it's proven that its a laggy computer.

[Random Personaliti]

omfg..... this whole situation needs to be fixed

no it doesnt stand for universal soldier front, it stands for U.S.A soldier front. learn that the server is in california.

those brits really p!ss me off with their 262 ping. seriosuly if you wanna play sf that badly go make ur own soldier front

what really gets me off because of the brits is how they pretend to be cool. then later they admit that they are nerds and whatnot.


I would say they should just add a Ping Viewer on The menu to tell who has high ping and who doesnt. Cant be that hard can it??


wow nobody else thought of that +rep

i need that so ill kick all the laggers

[AOWperm]

Somebody already suggested the ping viewer before, and if ijji really wants to make money across the globe, why don't they just make more servers around the world and create sub channels, then everyone will be happy.

[GotStealth]

the laggers are really getting on my nerve
and need to be stopped
maybe when creating a room. A ping limit?

[Retrospective]

many people agree with me and are very very angry... i have a suggestion for soldier fornt which i think would greatly improve it.. my problem is too many people lagg... to fix this i have come up with an idea but i only want to realewase my idea to the gm's and not everyone else so they can take credit

They said they would make a server in the East coast (thinking about it) and there making a ping limiter.

[emocol]

lol there isnt any suggestion

[PendingDeath]

I dont understand why they dont just create ONE channel that has a limit of 100 ping >.<

[h!tmanspade]

we all say ping limiter and those who dont say that lagg

[Patricknian3]

many people agree with me and are very very angry... i have a suggestion for soldier fornt which i think would greatly improve it.. my problem is too many people lagg... to fix this i have come up with an idea but i only want to realewase my idea to the gm's and not everyone else so they can take credit

hey fck tard we got worse problems to deal with...:doh::doh::doh::doh::mad::mad::(:(:xd::(:(: (:doh::doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:

[SniperMan619]

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[aNdYPhail]

even if u all complain or w/e. ijji wont ip ban foreigners caz 70% of the money comes from foreigner so please stop making this stupid threats. wasting precious time.

[ARyhm]

pointless thread. no matter how much u nublets whine, no one's gonna do anything. so ye better stop makin these threads and giving other nublets fake hope

[DeMonExister]

Originally Posted by ARyhm
pointless thread. no matter how much u nublets whine, no one's gonna do anything. so ye better stop makin these threads and giving other nublets fake hope


I Doubt that, Someone here posted the idea of ways to block glitches and look at it now. Many glitches have been patched. Not all, but some. Even though it seems that the GM's aren't doing anything to stop this, They really are. they can't make a move unless they know what they are doing, they are making plans of this. (Money, Reputation, ect...)

By keeping this post alive, GM's will see that the issue for Lag is getting bigger and bigger, and they will have to do something because they don't want people to leave because of this.

Originally Posted by Retrospective
They said they would make a server in the East coast (thinking about it) and there making a ping limiter.

You should like post up the link or show some proof so people here should see themselves.
Sometimes people don't believe someone until they see proof themselves. I would love for GM's to do this.

[Jacker94]

hmmm how about more of a post because i dont think a small little paragraph is gonna do much