N-Gaurd to Punkbuster

[Sfronr111]

Ok... lets get this straight I h8 the modem tapping, I think that is because N-Gaurd is a litle worse than a program called punkbuster. I think punkbuster is better and they should switch em. Plz comment

[stolidlosak]

punkbuster does ip and hardware bans, im down for that.

[UpSurge]

Uhh.. never head of it... GameGuard is much more known... and I think we should stick with it... The GMS should juts be aware of the hacking websites and detect the hack as soon as it comes out :)

[BradfordS]

PunkBuster: www.evenbalance.com

Games such as Warrock and Enemy Territory use PunkBuster. I see alot of hackers on Warrock. And I doubt PunBuster could stop them from disconnecting their modem..
And trust me PunkBuster is more well known ^.^

[SuperNerfed]

PunkBuster's technology is far more advanced tham GameGuard. They can take screenshots of a players view, that captures what a player actually see's, and on top of superior technology then actually ban you.

[Snipingkid]

Punkbuster is more used for more recent FPSs like BF2, GameGuard goes to everything else. GameGuard is more used by companies like Nexon and Hangame.

GG is already implemented in SF, GG can log stuff and send it to the publisher.

[stolidlosak]

GG is already implemented in SF, GG can log stuff and send it to the publisher.

why doesnt it then?

[{K}evlar]

Uhh.. never head of it... GameGuard is much more known... and I think we should stick with it... The GMS should juts be aware of the hacking websites and detect the hack as soon as it comes out :)

Wow, just, WOW. Get out more often lol. Americas Army,BF2,CS those are just some games that use PB (Punkbuster).

In AA you will be hard pressed to find a hacker, that is, in a PB enabled server.

GUID bans are awesome because then people can't even play the game again unless they buy a new hard drive :D

Just ip bans rock, that would reduce some of the less intelligent tappers.

[Snipingkid]

why doesnt it then?

It probably does, but you don't know it. For example. Maplestory they put up an ad every time you exit the game for GameGuard to send a log. Well that's what the rumors say.

[Bspmpk2]

Wait In Warrock U need to wait like 2 minutes for Punk Buster TO uPdate EVRY dam time u log in to play.

If Its like that Stick with N Guard But If Not then PunkBuster is probbaly better

[{K}evlar]

Wait In Warrock U need to wait like 2 minutes for Punk Buster TO uPdate EVRY dam time u log in to play.

If Its like that Stick with N Guard But If Not then PunkBuster is probbaly better

2 minutes vs being killed by a modem tapper. hmmmm, what would I rather have :confused:

[Bspmpk2]

2 minutes vs being killed by a modem tapper. hmmmm, what would I rather have :confused:

I say being Killed By a tapper.

[vambo]

In Enemy Territory there are now quite a few hackers but its been around for donkeys years.......
but there's no lag waiting for Punk Buster anymore

[5_Jump_Chump]

PunkBuster's technology is far more advanced tham GameGuard. They can take screenshots of a players view, that captures what a player actually see's, and on top of superior technology then actually ban you.

Nerfed is right, pb can grab screenshots u take. Which would cut out most wallhackers. But it's ur own fault if u play an officer with a +4 kd.

[DarkChaos]

Never heard of Punkbuster!!?!? o.O Anyway, there are A LOT of hackers in Warrock. Also, PB runs 24/7 as soon as you start up your computer, you'll notice the process PnKBstrA.exe or something, it's displayed as a SYSTEM process. (To view your processes CTRL + ALT + DELETE) So it basiclly eats up a bit of your resources. I don't have the complete details whether it still scans for hacks etc. even if you arn't playing a game that uses PB.

[D/O/G_Killer]

dude punker buster actually watches ur computer and keep tracks of the hacks u use but i got a trojan from it lol

[PSG1R3aPeR]

Wow, just, WOW. Get out more often lol. Americas Army,BF2,CS those are just some games that use PB (Punkbuster).

In AA you will be hard pressed to find a hacker, that is, in a PB enabled server.

GUID bans are awesome because then people can't even play the game again unless they buy a new hard drive :D

Just ip bans rock, that would reduce some of the less intelligent tappers.

kevlar, if you played other games then ud be getting out less.
no sense it makes.

:confused2:

[prifess]

perhaps DMW?

[68stang]

wow never heard of Punkbuster?? for those who have not heard of punk buster have you ever played a first person shooter you have to buy in the store? COD2, Bf2, BF2142, Quake wars, COD4, Crysis, jeez you name it and its got punk buster. Some of you amaze me lol

[Omaso]

Lol who are you {K}Pirate?

[WaRrAnT]

Lol who are you {K}Pirate?

Clearly a big time spammer.

[DaBaLLer]

kevlar, if you played other games then ud be getting out less.
no sense it makes.

:confused2:

Lol nice sig. IMMA FIRE MI LASER> SHOOP DA WHOOP. WHat does that mean anyway:wink:

[TomatoSauces]

Punkbuster is kind of more for those games like Wolfenstein and Battlefield. People make servers then people join the server and play.

[68stang]

Punkbuster is kind of more for those games like Wolfenstein and Battlefield. People make servers then people join the server and play.



LOl what??? in BF games you don't make servers. You spend LOTs of money (we spent $250 a month) and run dedicated servers, they run very smooth. not like SF. Although that doesn't matter, Punkbuster could be installed for anybody playing this game and it would do a decent job trust me.

[TomatoSauces]

Oh wow sorry man I only played Battlefield for half a day. I will learn from my mistakes and be smart like you sensei.

[Socer_Balla]

yea tapping is getting so old.........

[fire23150]

Wait In Warrock U need to wait like 2 minutes for Punk Buster TO uPdate EVRY dam time u log in to play.

If Its like that Stick with N Guard But If Not then PunkBuster is probbaly better


2 minutes isnt a long time

[Indian4Life]

Wait In Warrock U need to wait like 2 minutes for Punk Buster TO uPdate EVRY dam time u log in to play.

If Its like that Stick with N Guard But If Not then PunkBuster is probbaly better

sometimes gameguard also does that.

[PwnM4n]

yea and punkbuster has no tapping but some hacks escape it so im not sure about it

[samael]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PLEASE GOD DONT SUBJECT ME TO THE HORRO THAT IS PUNKBUSTERRRRRRR....oh sweet mother of jesus im going to have nightmares for a week over this now....oh lord

My opinion: No...no...no no no no no no....and one more no....for good measure

Punkbuster games have plenty of hacks folks, dont try and decieve yourself like its going to be this magical wonderland of hack free games, ITS NOT. To the kevlar guys, no, you really dont have to buy a new anything, unless youre technologically illiterate.

Dont fool yourselves and dont let anyone else fool you either, punkbuster wont make your problems go away, and if anyone tells you they will, theyre a liar. I feel a rant coming on, but in the intrest of not making anyone read it, punkbuster is like a drug, you decide your old one isnt good enough, you hop onto this, and then you learn this aint enough, we need somethin better.

For the sake of my sanity, just say no.

Peace

[BradfordS]

Edit: Opps lol, Didn't realise I had alredy posted in this thread.

[Kuja]

Punkbuster all the way.... But sadly I don't think it will be possible for Soldier Front since the game has to be made for Punkbuster before it is released.

It's probably possible but would need a serious amount of work. :S

[Cerialkillaa]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PLEASE GOD DONT SUBJECT ME TO THE HORRO THAT IS PUNKBUSTERRRRRRR....oh sweet mother of jesus im going to have nightmares for a week over this now....oh lord

My opinion: No...no...no no no no no no....and one more no....for good measure

Punkbuster games have plenty of hacks folks, dont try and decieve yourself like its going to be this magical wonderland of hack free games, ITS NOT. To the kevlar guys, no, you really dont have to buy a new anything, unless youre technologically illiterate.

Dont fool yourselves and dont let anyone else fool you either, punkbuster wont make your problems go away, and if anyone tells you they will, theyre a liar. I feel a rant coming on, but in the intrest of not making anyone read it, punkbuster is like a drug, you decide your old one isnt good enough, you hop onto this, and then you learn this aint enough, we need somethin better.

For the sake of my sanity, just say no.

Peace




you are totally right


common hacks in soldier front = tapping and wallhack

common hacks in the battlefield games = wallhack, no fog, aimbot, speed hack, packet hack (when people shoot you, you "loose" packets and take no damage) the list continues


i'll take those two things over the MANY things in punkbuster..i played Battlefield 1942 when it first came out way back when, then went to Battlefield Vietnam then to Battlefield 2...all use punkbuster and had the same hacks on every game


punk buster kicks you from the game if you cannot connect to the punkbuster auto update server, which if windows firewall is on, 50% of the time you will be d/c from the game

sometimes i was kicked from games because punkbuster had to randomly update...you know how annoying that is when you are doing good in a game???

TRUST ME...punk buster isnt the solution

[OrangeSno-Cone]

Ye, I agree with Cerial.
10 char

[Venin]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PLEASE GOD DONT SUBJECT ME TO THE HORRO THAT IS PUNKBUSTERRRRRRR....oh sweet mother of jesus im going to have nightmares for a week over this now....oh lord

My opinion: No...no...no no no no no no....and one more no....for good measure

Punkbuster games have plenty of hacks folks, dont try and decieve yourself like its going to be this magical wonderland of hack free games, ITS NOT. To the kevlar guys, no, you really dont have to buy a new anything, unless youre technologically illiterate.

Dont fool yourselves and dont let anyone else fool you either, punkbuster wont make your problems go away, and if anyone tells you they will, theyre a liar. I feel a rant coming on, but in the intrest of not making anyone read it, punkbuster is like a drug, you decide your old one isnt good enough, you hop onto this, and then you learn this aint enough, we need somethin better.

For the sake of my sanity, just say no.

Peace

Actually, Punkbuster is effective just for ONE line of code you can put in.

/pb_ss [NAME]

Why? It takes a screenshot of THEIR screen, of what THEY see. This is good because it then sends that Screenshot to there main website to be reviewed. Also, punkbuster has banned MANY players. It's a great system, but sometimes it takes the co-operation of players aswell.

[Ghost_Onder]

ALL I can say is that they can't not cause of money they probably have enough money but special force was made in korea then it went to some more countires and eventually came here with the same protection of n-guard so all the special forces worldwide are n-guard can't be changed

so stop moaning whats the problem with n-guard anyways?

[Ghost_Onder]

Clearly a big time spammer.

you said he spammed what are you doing saying that he is a spammer you are doing the same thing spamming

and remember they can't change cause sf has it worldwide noobs!

[Cerialkillaa]

Actually, Punkbuster is effective just for ONE line of code you can put in.

/pb_ss [NAME]

Why? It takes a screenshot of THEIR screen, of what THEY see. This is good because it then sends that Screenshot to there main website to be reviewed. Also, punkbuster has banned MANY players. It's a great system, but sometimes it takes the co-operation of players aswell.

hacks for punkbuster detect when this screenshot is being sent...the hack is turned off...screen shot is sent...hack turned back on

[Sup_Rambo]

cerial even know krazy left u stay in ok???

[Pin2Win]

we should stick with wat we have

[CocaCaca]

punkbuster does ip and hardware bans, im down for that.

Hell yea! :)

[fire23150]

stop these threead s ijji is on contract with GG its here to stay

[L0rd]

airight people, i myself have just purchased enemy territory quake wars, this game uses a high powered punkbuster and it is almost impossible to hack enless u are a pro hacker so ijji may do better with such i high powered punkbuster

[fire23150]

can u shut up with the punk buster thread GameGuard is under a contract.. it means they cant take it off for a long long time wont u listen...and u just cant put punk buster on a game i dont think ijjis game are compatible with punk buster..

[L0rd]

calm down u dont have to get so mad.....

[berserkguard]

Yeah, I play AA and they use PunkBuster. PunkBuster does a good job, as I've never seen hackers/glitchers/tappers ingame.

[watupppl]

at least warrock doesnt have the problems that sf has ......... there its like 20 hackers in warrock there are more than 1000 wallhackers glitchers and tappers in sf so oh yeah i prefer pb

[wongalolo]

Lol never head of that one only heard of Game Gaurd.

[blahblahurneeds]

yes plz change to punkbuster.alot of people will get there problems solve.just change the main games.
or switch to xtrap.Knight online and wolfteam use it.i nvr see hackers on wolfteam too.knight i can say anything
PLEASE SWITCH IJJI

[iplaysfoO]

gameguard is a controlled trojan developed by inca o_0

Punkbuster is most likely something similar with the difference that it runs 24/7 by doing so, it eats up memory, scans everything you do [lets say ur like me and u use trainers for rct2]

[fire23150]

can you guys stop talking about punk buster Gameguard is here to Stay! probably for another 2 years or so...

[person]

I think punk buster should replace gameguard but also anouther big issue is tapping or tapers wtf can we do about those other than ban them cant we just put something that automatically shuts down the game if your internet connection disconnects im not a programer but i was a gm on chaos crusade just for fun

[[SG]Pengu]

Would the Punkbuster be able to ban, or find tappers in the game?

[)N[O][O]B{]

Pengu;1016962']Would the Punkbuster be able to ban, or find tappers in the game?

LMao, to stop tappers, all ijji has to do is.. if someone loses connection,they should get dced after 2 seconds, not dced after 30 seconds....

[shkwave93]

i like n-gaurd

[[-Sin-]]

I say being Killed By a tapper.

lol @ u i rather wait 2 minz its not that long and besides if that is going to take away tapping its going to be more fun just dont log out untill you're done playing i mean lots of people play sf for more then 10-30 minutes some games even last longer then 10... so whats 2 minutes of waiting for no tappers in those minutes/hours you play for...you are probably a tapper/hacker thats why you dont want pb instead of gg :D jk lol or am i?

[BaNnaaHan0cK]

they both equally suck

i say that cuz i know any and all a/c suck b/c anyone can hijack the a/c scan function and kill it

[Golden_Bullet]

Thing Is Right, Sometimes SF Lags Really Badly

Where I'm Going With This Is That Like One Time I Was Playing SF At My Friends House And Just A Second Before The "YOU WIN" Box Thing Came Up, I Grenaded 2 People At The Same Time WITHOUT TAPPING!

So When We Started The Next Round, They Were Already Dead...

So Sometimes It Aint The Persons Fault And They May Get Unfairly Banned

[sgt_adamPwned]

Punkbuster OWNS! Ever heard of Americas Army? Very good graphics, awesome game, but u need a very good computer. It has Punkbuster. There is like NO hacks on AA. When you join a game... before you start playing punkbuster checks for hacks very fast. *It's already done once your actually playing not spectating. They update it a lot and there is no hacks out for AA. and its hard to bypass. unlike Gamegaurd.

[fire23150]

are u sure about that? i can show u where to get ALOT

[Da2Shae]

Ok warrock has punkbuster, and there is an error where it kicks you for 0 minutes after 30 secs of login. Many players have that glitch and the people from warrock havent been able to fix it for MONTHS. THEY STILL HAVENT FIXED IT!

Therefore they should not change to PB.

[wmc1982]

I couldn't ever play AA because of Punkbuster. Wouldn't ever work with vista

[watupppl]

i tried modem tapping on warrock to see if it worked but no so..

[RoyalLimit]

CAn you give me a link to like the punkbutster website? (200th post yay w00t!)

[watupppl]

CAn you give me a link to like the punkbutster website? (200th post yay w00t!)

www.evenbalance.com rep me plz

[-PLUM-]

PB is a laggy system, such as in war rock, if u dont update it, u get kicked out of everygame, it is a VERY good hack prevention system though, Im up for it.

[KUSH*]

true in css they do ban u like they did to me rofl pb is a good solution.but i dnt think iiji will ever switch to that anti hacking program

[FinalBlaze]

yes i agree i think they should put punk buster but they should test it out on soldier front if it works or if there are bugs and which is better.

[fire23150]

true in css they do ban u like they did to me rofl pb is a good solution.but i dnt think iiji will ever switch to that anti hacking program

css doesnt have pb they have VAC its a custom hack pervention(better than pb)

[Rooter*]

All security systems have flaws. You cant just ditch one because there are lots of glichers or tappers etc...

[)SillyDuck(]

Reviving threads :O

[Solo3]

Gameguard does not even acknowledge us.

[KahShot]

Far more advanced technology, and it hardware bans. sounds nice but it phails in warrock.

[Firemelon]

Yeah, I think there's too much tappers >.>

[((-SiN-))]

why not use a VAC protection?

[Starbits]

It would work 100% in soldier front. Since most things are server sided, you cant hack them.

And yes, switching to punkbuster would be a definite rid of Tapping. Why? Because it kicks you for dropping packets.
And, it will also ban you if it detects hacks for any game what-so ever.

The reason it is not working so well with warrock is because most of the things are client sided. (Stamina, cordinates, weapons)... etc. They cannot make punkbuster filter the packets already, because it would cause mass amounts of lag. So, i would rather live with hackers in warrock than not being able to play at all. Best they can do is catch the hackers and ban them.

I am 100% towards the punkbuster change.

[AugOwns]

Even CALL OF DUTY 4 has Punkbuster.
I haven't seen any hackers yet.
PLZ SWITCH

[maxned]

i agree that it would be good to use punkbuster if only it didnt take a great computer to run it well

[Roadside24]

punkbuster is great, i play aa alot

[DeltaLeader3]

punkbuster is great but i dont think ijji will be switching to it anytime soon, they are behind in thier updates and have server stability issues that need to be solved first

[square1]

Wow dude as I see punkbuster is not as good as they think. Cause I seen plenty of hackers in Warrock.

[DeltaLeader3]

but it is definatly better then nGuard tho

[Tailers]

punkbuster owns, also auto kicks you when you have to many team kills and such.
Great program, used on enemy territory aswell :)

[fire23150]

almost all the SF's around the world have gameguard why do u guys think this SF is special?

[^Timberwolf*]

Punkbuster is more known, the Battlefield games use it and COD4 uses it.

[[N]oob*]

Punkbuster may be a bit better, but every kind of protection has its pros and cons.

An example is the size. Gameguard is smaller than Punkbuster and takes less time to update.

Even though there are hacks and other programs used to cheat on Gameguard, there will be ones that work for Punkbuster. So, either way, there will be hacks, glitches, and so on.

[shsnarb]

COD4 uses punkbuster

[SPFX]

Punkbuster= Bigger, better, little more time for updates
Gamegaurd= Smaller, more hacks, less time for updates

All in all most well recognized games(Americas Army,Warrock, Enemy Territory, Call of Duty 4) use Punkbuster because its generally better despite the larger size of Punkbuster compared to Gamegaurd. Also, Americas Army uses Punkbuster and I have not seen one hacker, tapper, etc. on the Punkbuster enabled servers, and the same goes for Warrock

[SenQi]

Punkbuster is more well known but there's people selling bypassers for them, programs that make the screenies it makes all black if you hack, and lots of people hack. I don't think this means GameGuard is any better but in my research I have noticed that it just is because there's more hackers in ET,warrock,etc gaming scenes.

[goldeneagles]

i hate PunkBusters with their 0 min bans saying u need to reinstall. also, sometimes it kicks u out for no reason.

[sup3rkababi]

:no:The game terminated by an unknown error. We Apologize for this inconvenience

I allready reinstall it and it still keeps on happening.
And Iam using windows vista.

PLEASE TELL ME WHAT DO I NEED TO DO TO FIX IT


>>>THANK YOu!!!!<<<

[hdkjf-hka@yahoo.co]

how come u can make a thread here and i cant :mad:

[Turok]

Ethier way no matter what anti-cheat system we are still going to have hackers and tappers. I think that we would be better of with Punkbuster in the future.

[Marbus]

:ranting:Every shooter game that i know of uses Punkbuster and there are no problems with it. Its alot better than Gamegard. GameGaurd does nothing at all so why use a useless system that does nothing.

I say Punkbuster Now

[bleh12321]

Okayyyy.... lemme clear up the problem with PunkBuster in Warrock the only reason why you see hackers is becuz pb takes a couple of minutes before it finds them and bans there account the only problem in warrock is that its easy to make a new account. or all they need todo is leave before punkbuster finds them and then pb doesnt issue a ban because there hack ends pb from processes right before pb issues a ban

[noob85]

tony gay can go suck a ****

[xMonsteRx]

battlefield 2 has tonsssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!! let me say that again tonnnssssssssssssssss! of hackers in it and it uses punkbuster, any game will have hackers its UN-STOPABLE sad but true =[

[supraoleg]

doesnt need for speed pro street use punkbuster?

[nickelback]

Soldier Front should use VAC, but too bad it can't because that game is not from ValvE

[sniperkilla]

well either or work for me...

[JeremyJ]

Uhh.. never head of it... GameGuard is much more known... and I think we should stick with it... The GMS should juts be aware of the hacking websites and detect the hack as soon as it comes out :)

Well firstly i dont really mind which but upsurge punkbuster is known way more its like on every BIG firstperson shooter there is like warrock, counter strike and wolfenstein, and prob with PB is it crashes to regularly

[meroosher]

To me, PB always has problem updating and it's really annoying. But still PB>GameGaurd.

[H1dEnShoT*]

ea games only uses punkbuster it works very well way better then game gaurd but this thread wont do anything gms dont look at these forums.

[Hipeople]

Pb is cool and all but it updates to much and gets problems for people...

[trusoulja]

Punkbuster sucks. i was playing warrock for the first time, then it goes "Punkbuster has banned you becuase someone has reported your IP of hacking" im like "wth"

[TheAgathorII]

the :bump: cause

i need posts


and

am bored

:zzz:

[Hipeople]

to hard to look after... not as realible

[agathoriiii]

punk buster sucks so bad it makes my cells hurt

[Andsymbleblu]

punk buster sucks so bad it makes my cells hurt

Is that why you have 3 red rep bars, or do you just make everyone's cells hurt?

[fire23150]

gameguard > punkbuster... soldier front really doesn't have alot of hackers lol only tappers+ glitching.. and thats it

[Hipeople]

yeah and we only have like 2-4 thousand at once while COD4 or somthing as quiet more

[*ZooM]

PM gm if you think this will really work but i doubt theyll chnage to punkbuster cuz ksf has gameguard and ksf is like the future of usf

[YOUMER]

PunkBuster's technology is far more advanced tham GameGuard. They can take screenshots of a players view, that captures what a player actually see's, and on top of superior technology then actually ban you.

not sure ive played bf2 and i think its called pbbans

[fatboyx16]

At least it's better than Combat Arms anti hax system

[TsubaMenos]

GameGuard is huge... or at least affiliated with alot of the big companies in Korea.

lol, I just checked the website after I got a GG error...

[Channel_1]

Uhh.. never head of it... GameGuard is much more known... and I think we should stick with it... The GMS should juts be aware of the hacking websites and detect the hack as soon as it comes out :)
Then you must only play f2p games that aren't made in america.... =\

not sure ive played bf2 and i think its called pbbans
Punkbuster Bans; hence: pbbans...

GameGuard is huge... or at least affiliated with alot of the big companies in Korea.

lol, I just checked the website after I got a GG error...

it might be huge in other countries, but in the USA (where this *cough* super laggy *cough* game is 'supposedly' made for), PunkBuster is the ultra-authoritative anti-hacker system for games. GameGuard doesn't work as well, it is too new for the USA (can't detect USA Hacks as well as it can detect it's home hacks from korea etc).


ijji should just quit being cheap and greedy and actually buy some new technology for their games in the USA (like the korean servers that don't lag players -or help to even out P2P lag- AND/or punkbuster instead of their stupid GG).

[SQLInjected]

Then you must only play f2p games that aren't made in america.... =\


Punkbuster Bans; hence: pbbans...



it might be huge in other countries, but in the USA (where this *cough* super laggy *cough* game is 'supposedly' made for), PunkBuster is the ultra-authoritative anti-hacker system for games. GameGuard doesn't work as well, it is too new for the USA (can't detect USA Hacks as well as it can detect it's home hacks from korea etc).


ijji should just quit being cheap and greedy and actually buy some new technology for their games in the USA (like the korean servers that don't lag players -or help to even out P2P lag- AND/or punkbuster instead of their stupid GG).

GG is encrypted, punkbuster isn't. I'd actually love a chance to play around and decrypt and rip it apart to shreds. Also, GG is a basically a trojan that controls your computer due its ring0 access.

[ioni]

nah keep gameguard...in warrock there are a lot of hackers cuz they bypass the pb

[bpfoley89]

NO!!!!! Punkbuster banned me from Warrock because it said it detected a "Multi-Hack" on SEVERAL accounts! But I didn't hack at all! Its just the configuration of my computer! I swear, if I have to use a bypass JUST TO PLAY THE GAME, I might as well use cheat engine to freeze my health at 100!

Long story short, Punkbuster is bad. GameGuard is good. And anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

[sgtsnorkel]

here is a better idea yet I like punkbuster no doubt the first person shootewr games i play with punkbuster dont have continuous hacks of the same kind such as tapping,aimbots,teleporting ( tappers) etc they fix it right away usual;ly within 12 hours, game guard used to be USED to be the best now they just sit back and do next to nothing
kind of like yahoo and microsoft just live off the rep they once had...

heres my idea to help control some hackers allow host to kick from within game instead of having to have a vote i have seen too many times where two people from a clan play on same team hack like nmad and you cant boot them because his partner always votes it down, noone says they have to gain damage from the kick by a host but it will cause some of the real losers to stop.

my normally useless 2 cents

also anyone preferring game guard to PB is prolly hacking themselves and cannot get past PB and gets upset about it, Game guard is def old school 90s era anti hack software where as PB updates daily sometimes every three hours game guard lucky to add an upgrade every 6 months

[CommanderCookies]

I'd like to finally be able to record some game footage.

+1 Internets to OP