pls ijji pls

[Chobeat]

this thread goes to ijji(i dun really hope they will care about me) because i have some things to say.
i started playing goonzu more than 1 year ago on ndoors global server. that was hot. goonzu was the perfect mmorpg for me and for a lot of other ppl. i started my own full italian comunity that reached 50 active guildies some months ago. but something happened. ndoors became greedy. they messed up the game with crazy updates only to force ppl to spend money. the result was that all old players leaved because you had to spend about 100 dollars a month to be a regular player and ppl that could spend more than 1000(i saw also bigger numbers) can control the game also if they were noobs.

i ask only a thing. i can't ask you to not set an itemmall. it would be silly. i ask you to avoid the big errors that ndoors did. i studied goonzu enviroment for school's studies and i deeply know what happened also because i was one of the 100 top players and a well known char.
ndoors never listened to players and alwais went about ppl's will. sometimes it can be an error to follow the players' will because the game will become to easy or boring(like world of warcraft in first time) but take care of players.
then dun be too greedy. you must notice when you risk to go too far with your actions. it will only ruin the game like in ndoors' case.
the last thing i ask to ijji(these are more advises than requests) is to eliminate those bugs and exploit that ruined the goonzu's gameplay. you have to find a way to limit mules voting, mules gathering, itemmall exploit, real cash transaction for in-game currency and other things.

i believe in ijji(i follow ijji from long time ago) and i hope you will listen and work well.
if you will work well you will take the whole ndoors' players because there the situation is really bad. the whole international comunity dun like ndoors' acting so take the most from it

[fire23150]

im sorry to say this but sooner or later there gonna add an item mall/shop to the game they need the cash as u can see everygame has an extensive item shop just play the open beta before they all the item shop so should i try global goonzu or dont?

[Chobeat]

i'm not talking about deleting itemmall. i'm simply saying to not do the same errors ndoors did like goonzu days, messed up crafting, useless pvp, daily changes of the gameplay(to force ppl to pay real cash to play as the day before). i hope they will start from the goonzu of 6 months ago and not from nowadays goonzu.

[springymabob]

They need the money otherwise they will not be able to host the game they cannot speand all the money out of there own pocket, if they don't open Itemmall they will not be able to host the game. Hosting a Game is an expensive thing. They don't have an Item Mall to be nasty they do it because they want us to enjoy ourselves. And the money they make goes towards the game to keep it running and to open new things.

[Chobeat]

i perfectly know what does it mean to manage a server and i know the costs. i'm not saying to turn off the itemmall( i wrote it lot of times, read before reply). i'm saying that ndoors destroyed the big potential of this game deleting all the interesting features(like competitive crafting, weapon enhacment ecc ecc) to force ppl to spend spend spend more than the new version of the game deserve. i'm saying that ijji have to keep the old style of goonzu and forgot the latest changes made by ndoors that forced about 100 long time players(the last count was about 100) that played for more than 1 year to quit because they lost what they did.

[Lotus Dragon]

I never played GoonZu before, so I have no idea what is going on over there. Chobeat, can you please tell me what is going on in more detail so I can prepair myself incase ijji messes up to?

[Chobeat]

they simplified the craft to force ppl to buy clothes sets from itemmall to be competitive, they made goonzu days in which you can gain 3x exp so ppl craft only that day(i mean big crafters, low lvls are not affected by ndoors changes, you won't notice anything before 3-4 months or more), messing up the live market. then they modified a lot of times the elemental system so ppl that had a super powa land weapon discovered it to be useless so ppl spend cash to buy stones in itemmall to have back a good weapon and then they changed another time and another.
they announced pvp 6 months ago and after a long waiting we got a boring, unbalanced and unfair thing.
then they made some items not tradable(like mounts) to force ppl to buy more from itemmall and lots of other little changements that made the game boring and more expensive to be competitive

[GhostKorean]

What is so bad about a item mall? You might end up buying some stuff.

[Lotus Dragon]

So basically, in order to really be any good against other players, you must spend real money? I hate when games are like that. You get your character to a nice level, find some really powerful items and then you get destroyed by a player who is lower leveld than you and has spend $50 on all these items. I suppose its better than making the entire game p2p, but they need to find a more fair way to make money.

[Chobeat]

itemmall is not bad REAAAAAAAAAD my posts.

i'm saying that when ppl that is playing his own regular game, got the game modified and throw out from the competition or forced to buy items to keep playing. itemmall is in goonzu by 1 year and only noobs' spent more than some dollars in itemmall because you could get the same things in game easily. now who spend in itemmall win, who dun spend is out. you can't control towns, you can't afford a good weapon, you can't craft easily. that is bad

edit@lotus
you are right but in goonzu pvp is useless and spend 50$ is useless too. i'm talking of ppl that spend more than 200-300 or even a lot more weekly to get in game money to buy shares and control towns and force you to do what they want(usually kids or frustrated old men). it was fair when 50 $ per week gave the same results as 2 hours of farming and some nights with 3-4 clients turned on. now 50$ gives nothing and with 2 hours of farming you get the same as before but is worthless. in game inflation was terrible, but after the itemmall it increased of 100% every 2 months. that's why i'm saying that is wasted time to play there

[Lotus Dragon]

Holy crap! That much money!? Id like to know what these people's jobs are. How do people control you though? Also, are you saying that we wont be able to control our own town unless we pay money? That seems fair, but I really dont like it. I agree with you, they should seriously find a different way to gain profit.

[Chobeat]

there were some asian kids that spent from the opening of the itemmall and spend everyweek.
i know a player that spent from 1k to 2k(maybe more, i dun know exactly but surely not less) to buy with a private transaction some accounts and shares. he also stole 60 euro from a woman that gave him money to buy those shares for her

[~Purple~]

lol cho, let these ppl for there own opionions of the game. u had a bad experience sorry to hear that. in fact the good players who i know dont use the Item mall, and the ones that do spend vast amounts dont stay for very long. seems when u get things without working for them u get bored...

[Chobeat]

hi purple. it's obv that ppl that started the same day as the server opened got more power. itemmall abuser are the noobs that tried to compete with old time players for the leadership position when they dun deserve it and ruins the work of ppl that was working hard to deserve a good position.
i had a very beatiful experience in goonzu, surely the best in mmorpg, but this is an open letter to ijji, not a warning for players. they have to try and see and if ijji fails it will be like the old goonzu

[~Purple~]

hi purple. it's obv that ppl that started the same day as the server opened got more power. itemmall abuser are the noobs that tried to compete with old time players for the leadership position when they dun deserve it and ruins the work of ppl that was working hard to deserve a good position.
i had a very beatiful experience in goonzu, surely the best in mmorpg, but this is an open letter to ijji, not a warning for players. they have to try and see and if ijji fails it will be like the old goonzu

hi co, i still believe global has life in it, and is not dead.. yes there are players who like to spend vast amounts of money there, cant really do much bout it. i just hope the players of ijji have fun playing the game i sure still do. if anyone on ijju wants to check out goonzu early...

http://global.goonzu.com/

take a look even try it, if u need any help enter /t PurpleMage in the chat console ill try to help u out :)

[GhostKorean]

There quite a number of players in there =O

[~Purple~]

There quite a number of players in there =O

You will see alot of people around the main town (hanyang in global) alot of what are called "pshops" chars just set up to buy materials from other players. these people are mainly afk

[Chobeat]

ghost dun think that this new server will be fair for new players. old players like me, if they start to play here will be stronger than you in no time because of experience. probably if i wil move my comunity here, we will rule a town or anyway a good part of crafting and shares. big stars of goonzu are ignoring this server so maybe we will have a good starting point

[StealthSpyy]

Great Novel
Do you sell it at Barnes and Nobles?
Jeez shorten it up

[OneToughCookie]

im sorry to say this but sooner or later there gonna add an item mall/shop to the game they need the cash as u can see everygame has an extensive item shop just play the open beta before they all the item shop so should i try global goonzu or dont?
they alredy have an item mall

[OneToughCookie]

You will see alot of people around the main town (hanyang in global) alot of what are called "pshops" chars just set up to buy materials from other players. these people are mainly afknot only that but most people use multi clienets to log in multiple times in the same computer

[Lotus Dragon]

Chobeat, if you ever get to rule a town, id gladly help you out. Im good at governing stuff/deciding tactics and strategys. Im not sure how the system works in Luminary, but im sure id pick up on it quick. I have a feeling it would be fun playing with you.

[Chobeat]

it works that there are never enough slots for heads in town. if you will help with lot of shares maybe you will have an head

[Neuzz]

Never played Goonzu before, Ill probably try the Ijji version though, but up to now Ijji have been fairly balanced with item shops and regular items, and I hope they keep it that way.

[Greed]

this thread goes to ijji(i dun really hope they will care about me) because i have some things to say.
i started playing goonzu more than 1 year ago on ndoors global server. that was hot. goonzu was the perfect mmorpg for me and for a lot of other ppl. i started my own full italian comunity that reached 50 active guildies some months ago. but something happened. ndoors became greedy. they messed up the game with crazy updates only to force ppl to spend money. the result was that all old players leaved because you had to spend about 100 dollars a month to be a regular player and ppl that could spend more than 1000(i saw also bigger numbers) can control the game also if they were noobs.

i ask only a thing. i can't ask you to not set an itemmall. it would be silly. i ask you to avoid the big errors that ndoors did. i studied goonzu enviroment for school's studies and i deeply know what happened also because i was one of the 100 top players and a well known char.
ndoors never listened to players and alwais went about ppl's will. sometimes it can be an error to follow the players' will because the game will become to easy or boring(like world of warcraft in first time) but take care of players.
then dun be too greedy. you must notice when you risk to go too far with your actions. it will only ruin the game like in ndoors' case.
the last thing i ask to ijji(these are more advises than requests) is to eliminate those bugs and exploit that ruined the goonzu's gameplay. you have to find a way to limit mules voting, mules gathering, itemmall exploit, real cash transaction for in-game currency and other things.

i believe in ijji(i follow ijji from long time ago) and i hope you will listen and work well.
if you will work well you will take the whole ndoors' players because there the situation is really bad. the whole international comunity dun like ndoors' acting so take the most from it

Something wrong with being Greedy?

[Xtrez]

Well.. I didnt see this post when It was made but after reading his things it sounds like my topic I made a few days ago about the item mall seeming to good on global. After now having tried the game I do realize that the game is a lot like I dont want it to be... (although I still will try ijji's to see how it will be)

On global theres so many things that you do have to pay for which I think is dumb.. Having to pay real money for more inventory space is the dumbest thing I ever seen in my life. Gooznu's inventory is really small with how often items drop from monsters you fill your inventory up quickly.

All the things he said reminds me of when I played conquer online 2 and I was 2nd highest lvl trojan, I also had by far the best equipment (first super weapon, first slotted boots, first slotted ring etc). But when I got level 105 they released item shop (even though they said they wouldnt since we were still testing out the conquer online 2 version). Some newbie paid probably $1000 to get full super set and passed everyone up... I was 40 levels ahead of the guy yet he passed me up like it was nothing with his set he spent all that money on and I had to hunt all my set hours every day to make money just to make my super weapon.

I really really hope ijji doesnt make the game like.. whoever is richest in real life will be the best. I understand they need to make money.. like on gunz online people who buy prems dont have a big advantage because skill > prems. I think item shop items shouldnt help out much.. but still enough so people buy them for the game to stay up.

Ok.. what Im trying to say which I probably repeated alot since I have ADD and lose track of what Im saying after like 10 seconds is... I hope this game doesnt end up to be if you dont pay real money then your nothing in the game no matter how much you play.

[dddddd]

xtrez you konw that there is a thing called a bag wher you can get it from reco points or geta mount or go get a mentor and surpass his lvl to get a bag is not hard to get more inventory space

[Xtrez]

I know.. I have a bag but they dont last forever. 1 Month and its going to dissappear.

[Commander]

awwww...inventory space extra doesn't last forever =[

[B3li3v3n]

They obviously will set an item mall. That's how they make money off the game.

[Commander]

I hope we can buy costumes...i would like a ninja costume =]

[fire23150]

LOL commander we are serious lol

[GhostKorean]

A ninja costume?

Hmmmm...I would rather have a SWAT costume =$

[no_life]

O
M
G

i read every single of your guys's posts lol
it took me like 10 mins >>
it was worth it i gues to figure out wat was going on, but rly all u had to say is that one dude messed up and dont make the same mistake by making it unufair to ppl who pay vs dont pay

[GhostKorean]

O
M
G

i read every single of your guys's posts lol
it took me like 10 mins >>
it was worth it i gues to figure out wat was going on, but rly all u had to say is that one dude messed up and dont make the same mistake by making it unufair to ppl who pay vs dont pay

IJJI doesn't making things unfair for other people.

You can still kill a dude in GunZ who has enchants and costume on his sword. :lolz:

[Xtrez]

Gunz is a skill game.. this is a rpg. Thats what I am worried about.. ijji hasnt made things unfair but a rpg is totally different than a fps type game. I really hope they keep it fair which so far from what they have done seems like they will but.. still scares me that it might happen after I do loads of work some dumb kid with parents who have $10000000000000000 give him loads of money to pay for stuff on this game.

[the sniper in you]

ima be hitler for christmas

[Commander]

I doubt they'll sell "SPEAR OF THE ALMIGHTY +9999999999999 DMG! AND +9999999 STATS ALL!" only for 40 g coins. or stuff like that =$

[Greed]

ima be hitler for christmas

ima be the man who ignites your body after drenching it in heavy gasoline

[Sai]

Gunz is a skill game.. this is a rpg. Thats what I am worried about.. ijji hasnt made things unfair but a rpg is totally different than a fps type game. I really hope they keep it fair which so far from what they have done seems like they will but.. still scares me that it might happen after I do loads of work some dumb kid with parents who have $10000000000000000 give him loads of money to pay for stuff on this game.

That would be discouraging, but they can't help it if they need the cash. Its only normal that they put profits in a higher priority than player satisfaction XD.

[GhostKorean]

ima be the man who ignites your body after drenching it in heavy gasoline

can i drench him with gasoline?

[Xtrez]

That would be discouraging, but they can't help it if they need the cash. Its only normal that they put profits in a higher priority than player satisfaction XD.

I was reading global goonzu forums and everyone thinks NDOORS the host of global goonzu puts money above everything. Most companies are like that.. but I dont want to believe ijji will do that. Ijji has done everything the best possible so far and I hope they will continue that with this game.

[GhostKorean]

I was reading global goonzu forums and everyone thinks NDOORS the host of global goonzu puts money above everything. Most companies are like that.. but I dont want to believe ijji will do that. Ijji has done everything the best possible so far and I hope they will continue that with this game.

IJJI is a business.

A business's goal is to make money. :thumbsup:


Maybe they'll make money by being nice to us =]

[Xtrez]

I know it is to make money but I think keeping there customers happy can make them money but companies dont try that they just try making lots unhappy but getting there money easily

[Sai]

Well, I guess users would be happier if there was clear and more interaction overall. Right now they're short handed, so whenever you see them, its usually when you get your thread closed/infracted and receive a response that sounds like it came from a cyborg.

[GhostKorean]

Well, I guess users would be happier if there was clear and more interaction overall. Right now they're short handed, so whenever you see them, its usually when you get your thread closed/infracted and receive a response that sounds like it came from a cyborg.

Well, IJJI is hiring....and they still have that message up =$

[Xtrez]

I would like to work for ijji but.. I suck at writing so I dont think I have a chance.

[GhostKorean]

I would like to work for ijji but.. I suck at writing so I dont think I have a chance.

I think they might accept anyone for the time being =$

as long as you meet the requirements. :confused:

[Xtrez]

- Excellent writing and communication skills

I would say.. Im below average in both lol

[Sai]

You also have to live near the building XD...

[GhostKorean]

Or, be able to commute to their office's everyday =$

[Sai]

Or, be able to commute to their office's everyday =$

Commuting between the east and west coast doesn't seem like a bad idea. Look at the bright side: enjoying the view on your way to work. ^_^

[Jeezai]

Hopefully there are premium items, but I hope the game does not depend on them to be good...

[GhostKorean]

Hopefully there are premium items, but I hope the game does not depend on them to be good...

I doubt it, seeing how the other IJJI games aren't dependent on prems.

[Xtrez]

I doubt it, seeing how the other IJJI games aren't dependent on prems.

Yeah.. but all other games so far have been skill games. Gunz, Soldier Front, Gunbound (I think), etc.. all skill wins not money. This game isnt skill involved (I dont think..).

[Chobeat]

goonzu is a skill game too. skill in business. a skilled guy can pwn a noob guy that spend 100 dollars a week and that's fair. the problem is ppl that spend more. the biggest problem are those 2-3 guys that are skilled and spend a lot. they can dominate the server and we can't do nothing except for isolate them(it happened but when it was needed it didn't happened at all(Milo,Mufight,ecc ecc)

[Xtrez]

I read the global goonzu forum where you and all those other people were talking about all that stuff.. I hope that stuff doesnt happen here.

[MrN1cky]

what do you spend money on, like armor/weapons? and what do you mean by dominating the server

[Xtrez]

150% exp, item that you sell to npc for 1 mil, boost stats, mounts are a few things you can buy from item shop

[Chobeat]

no pvp is nothing in this game. you can easily get a super cool equip in no time. they can spend on things to sell for in game money or they can directly spend on pure money(last update). they can also spend on stuff that improve your performance in hardcore crafting, farming or other things like exp boost(pretty useless, only for korean nerds, because after lvl 80 exp is useless). Dominate the server means that you directly control some towns and you are "close friend" with about 80% of others and you can decide for them. like usa and the rest of the world nowadays.

[riku07]

im downloadin the game right now, im gonna try this out and if i like it ill start fresh on ijji :) i know i wont be dissapointed cuz i love games :).:thumbsup: :thumbsup: ;)

[Xtrez]

lol.. i think leveling is boring but on ijji I will level to be a high lvl..

[GhostKorean]

lol.. i think leveling is boring but on ijji I will level to be a high lvl..

I wish I could do that....but....


*fills away at college apps.