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DeathGodIchigo
10-09-2007, 11:39 AM
I can`t deside on which weapon to choise... i know that a sword is fast but weak and a spear is
stronger but slower.
But what is the difference in speed and damage? like how many times each weapon attacks in a
given time and what is the totall damage with each at that given time?

For example : number of hits in 10 seconds | ammount of damage in 10 seconds for each weapon .

Which one of them is more efficient and what is better in the long run?

Darkcha0s42
10-10-2007, 08:01 PM
I would go with sword since it aready has a fast rate of attack. The only thing thats left to do is to make sure ur str is high enough so that u do ALOT of dmg.

Xtrez
10-10-2007, 08:22 PM
Well I think all weapons are equal its just which weapon do you want to use...

ALTHOUGH... on a new server theres alot of things to think about. For examlple you start out with a sword and in one of the starting quest you get to make a bronze sword with out getting the materials your self (and without having the proper sword manufacturing level). All other weapon types to get 2nd weapon has to get the proper manufacturing level and has to get the materials. And.. also you get first spear from quest at like level 12-14. And after that quest you get quest to get a bamboo cane. I dont think you get a reward of gun / axe / bow in any quest for a long time.

Short version is.. Sword = advantage on new server

loki151
10-11-2007, 08:27 AM
i think sword is better since even if spear is stronger.u juz have to have high str so u do lot of damge what's the point of having high att if u cant even hit ur oppent?

The_Duel_Master
10-11-2007, 09:36 AM
I choose spear

Xtrez
10-11-2007, 10:42 AM
i think sword is better since even if spear is stronger.u juz have to have high str so u do lot of damge what's the point of having high att if u cant even hit ur oppent?

If you have high strength with spear and with sword that means spear would hit harder. But sword faster so pretty equal anyway...

DeathGodIchigo
10-11-2007, 10:56 AM
I would go with sword since it aready has a fast rate of attack. The only thing thats left to do is to make sure ur str is high enough so that u do ALOT of dmg.
i think sword is better since even if spear is stronger.u juz have to have high str so u do lot of damge what's the point of having high att if u cant even hit ur oppent?

High str won`t help that much to do ALOT of dmg ,since 5 str = 1 point of dmg. Agi seems to be somehow much more important ,although you still need enough str to weild the weapon.

ALTHOUGH... on a new server theres alot of things to think about. For examlple you start out with a sword and in one of the starting quest you get to make a bronze sword with out getting the materials your self (and without having the proper sword manufacturing level). All other weapon types to get 2nd weapon has to get the proper manufacturing level and has to get the materials. And.. also you get first spear from quest at like level 12-14. And after that quest you get quest to get a bamboo cane. I dont think you get a reward of gun / axe / bow in any quest for a long time.

You have a point here ,Xtrez.

Thanks for your replays ,everybody. I think i`ll go with swords.
ALTHOUGH i`ll be happy to hear more oppinions.

Lunatis
10-11-2007, 03:52 PM
High str won`t help that much to do ALOT of dmg ,since 5 str = 1 point of dmg. Agi seems to be somehow much more important ,although you still need enough str to weild the weapon.



You have a point here ,Xtrez.

Thanks for your replays ,everybody. I think i`ll go with swords.
ALTHOUGH i`ll be happy to hear more oppinions.

*Tuvok voice from Star Trek*

Perhaps you should consider swords as a temporary measure, and utilize their "10 and 30" redistributions later to accomodate the weapon of your choice.

Greed
10-11-2007, 04:07 PM
I choose axe.

DeathGodIchigo
10-12-2007, 07:13 AM
*Tuvok voice from Star Trek*

Perhaps you should consider swords as a temporary measure, and utilize their "10 and 30" redistributions later to accomodate the weapon of your choice.

**Ichigo`s voice from Bleach**

Hmmm interesting idea Tuvok-kun ... but what about the weapon skill? I`ll have a higher sword
skill then from gaining sword skill exp, and then it`ll be better to stick with the sword ,now won`t it?

Lunatis
10-12-2007, 10:56 AM
**Ichigo`s voice from Bleach**

Hmmm interesting idea Tuvok-kun ... but what about the weapon skill? I`ll have a higher sword
skill then from gaining sword skill exp, and then it`ll be better to stick with the sword ,now won`t it?
*continues*
It appears you do not have a choice. As a matter of logical efficiency you should take the weapon with the greatest current advantage. During the start of the game it will be more efficient to take the sword, the only question remaining after this conclusion is "Is changing weapons later on, arduous it may be, worth the effort?" That's circumstantial and the answer changes depending on how much work you're willing to put into it- however, at level "10" or even level "30"- 30 not even being a third of the maximum, I can't imagine it would be that hard to reskill your weapon- especially if you are aiming to take advantage of it when you're done; this advantage will begin to show more and more the more you skill the weapon up.

DeathGodIchigo
10-12-2007, 12:10 PM
*continues*
It appears you do not have a choice. As a matter of logical efficiency you should take the weapon with the greatest current advantage. During the start of the game it will be more efficient to take the sword, the only question remaining after this conclusion is "Is changing weapons later on, arduous it may be, worth the effort?" That's circumstantial and the answer changes depending on how much work you're willing to put into it- however, at level "10" or even level "30"- 30 not even being a third of the maximum, I can't imagine it would be that hard to reskill your weapon- especially if you are aiming to take advantage of it when you're done; this advantage will begin to show more and more the more you skill the weapon up.

Ok thanks I guess you are right ,but can you explain more in-deapth the last part?
I`m not sure I get what you mean.

Lunatis
10-12-2007, 01:11 PM
I have no idea how Goonzu works mechanically, so just bear with me as I make this up. That was pretty much conjecture.


Let's say you got a skill that gives you +X damage with axes. X is 1/10 of your (Axe)weapon skill.
Starting from 1, you don't get much of a bonus. As you level it up though, at 20 you get more of a bonus, at 30 you get more of a bonus, at 40 you get more of a bonus, etc. That means it actually becomes easier to skill up the weapon if you've already put points into having an advantage with it. If the bonus at the beginning isn't enough for the right level monsters you scale down a bit until it is. Soon enough you won't even need to worry because levels 10 and 30 can't be that hard to catch up with considering how low they are from the maximum.

C_GO
10-12-2007, 01:23 PM
What? No harpoon?

Lunatis
10-12-2007, 05:16 PM
And now to answer the OPs question with a blindside-

Do you like shields?
If you like shields, take the sword. You obviously can't use a shield with a 2handed weapon like a spear (although the traditional javelin is a ranged spear weapon meant for one hand).

Bloody_gandalf
10-12-2007, 06:46 PM
Depends of yourself, depends of ur stats and ur build, and other factors like that....
But swords are cooler :D

DeathGodIchigo
10-13-2007, 08:34 AM
Okey thanks Lunatis.
I don`t like shields much (if it was possible ,i wouldv`e use 2handed swords). But i though we
don`t have the option to use shields in goonzu, neither a two handed
version of the normal one handed weapon

What? No harpoon?
Not in this game...

Depends of yourself, depends of ur stats and ur build, and other factors like that....
But swords are cooler
Yea ,agreed :)

Gaia
10-13-2007, 06:30 PM
it depends,
but the sword speed doesnt make up for the spear dmg =S.
anyways i think lots of people will still use swords, which will i would prefer so i can make lots of swords xD.

Damius
10-14-2007, 10:09 PM
Ive never been a fan of spears but maybe ill try them

Darkcha0s42
10-15-2007, 05:43 PM
Thanks for your replays ,everybody. I think i`ll go with swords.
ALTHOUGH i`ll be happy to hear more oppinions.

Damn straight you are! lol:clap:

BraveLegend
10-15-2007, 07:41 PM
sword does less damage then spear but swords is faster then spear, its ur pick , but one thing spear looks cooler on mounts :)

Damius
10-15-2007, 11:15 PM
sigh i still dont know what to pick i just know its not an axe.
Whats to battle style like to you click to hit or is it like a Final fantasy set up

DeathGodIchigo
10-16-2007, 12:02 PM
it depends,
but the sword speed doesnt make up for the spear dmg =S.
anyways i think lots of people will still use swords, which will i would prefer so i can make lots of swords xD.
Are you sure about it? it seems like most people say it does make up for the spear dmg :confused:

Damn straight you are! lol:clap:
Thanks :xd: lol

sigh i still dont know what to pick i just know its not an axe.
Whats to battle style like to you click to hit or is it like a Final fantasy set up
I think it`s the first (you mean it`s like Diablo style?)

Resident-Evil
10-16-2007, 12:34 PM
sword if u got a good accuracy, u rarely eat hp pot. Spear stable damage and speed, but the book price is more expensive.