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Malverick
10-15-2007, 05:01 PM
Does anyone knows how it works?
is it going to be like real stock market?
or how is it going to be like?
how does it work?
U Suscribe To REceive The Stock of a town when it opens.
so u must pay 100k and u will receive 20 shares fo the town that is opening up.
then u can wait till their value rise, or sell them if u need fast money or think the price is gonna fall
Malverick
10-15-2007, 05:18 PM
and what makes the price goes up and down?
and can I keep the share for ever? or it was expiration time?(7days)
can keep the share forever.
its demand what makes shares price rise or fall.
fore example i got the best sword in the game
Everyone wants it so the price rise and the one who bid the higest price take it right? for example 500mils.
but if i got a weapon that everyone has,no one will need buy cuz they would ont need it.
the same is with shares =P
Damius
10-15-2007, 05:29 PM
stock is so confusing
Malverick
10-15-2007, 05:37 PM
can keep the share forever.
its demand what makes shares price rise or fall.
fore example i got the best sword in the game
Everyone wants it so the price rise and the one who bid the higest price take it right? for example 500mils.
but if i got a weapon that everyone has,no one will need buy cuz they would ont need it.
the same is with shares =P
Ok sweet we can keep them forever!
I understood the example, but what I don't understand is why the demand of the stock would go up?
aren't them always the same?
what makes the price of the shares go up or down? demand right? but why people want buy the shares?...is it going to bring profits? like companies shares?
yes,cuz if u r part of a town u get dividends,more shares=more dividends.
people may want desperately shares to be the head of a town or to vote as a TC Candidate a friend of his.
Damius
10-15-2007, 05:42 PM
explain the dividends =) please
Dividends Is Money U Get From A Company ;It Depends On How Much You Contribute With IT.
the same occurs with the towns,more shares = More dividends,And if u have more shares u will get more dividends than everyone else without shares does.
Malverick
10-15-2007, 05:46 PM
dividends is (I think) like the town makes X marbles(money) if you have 20% of the shares of the town you will get 20% of this XMarbles that the town makes.
I'm not sure I'm just guessing
yes,cuz if u r part of a town u get dividends,more shares=more dividends.
people may want desperately shares to be the head of a town or to vote as a TC Candidate a friend of his.
Too bad it won't work like that in the beginning. Since its a fresh game, markets will be empty and stuff will be pretty hard to sell, unless you know how to come up with 100k+ marbles from scratch within a few days.
i can get more than 2 mil each day.you think noone will want to be the head of some town? bybeing a head u get money,and at the start of the game it will be hard for people who doesnt know how to make =S.
i still dont get ur point that it wont work that way.cuz towns will be opened kinda fast
Malverick
10-15-2007, 06:32 PM
2mil a day is not that much....
but it is a new server, so maybe it is a lot.
how do they open the town?
Are u sure its not a lot?...
10 days=20 mills
100 days=200mil now you already enetered the top 100 =).
a town is opened when stocks are given out, and after some time peple could ote a Town Chied, and then the tonw chief assigne head position to people he thinks are qualified.
Malverick
10-15-2007, 06:51 PM
lol mil = millions
I made a mistake bringing the term to my language!...ahahah
2 millions a day is a lot dude!
GhostKorean
10-15-2007, 07:09 PM
Errr....I was under the impression it was similar to a Free Trade Stock Market where value's are based upon productivity and general growth.
Well you Get MoreDividends If U Have Shares But Not Like 20% SHares=20% Of Profit.
Damius
10-15-2007, 11:20 PM
I sorta understand now
IcePawn
10-16-2007, 02:27 PM
so how many shares are in each town? would it be about 100,000 shares like in the real world?
Xtrez
10-16-2007, 02:41 PM
Errr....I was under the impression it was similar to a Free Trade Stock Market where value's are based upon productivity and general growth.
I think that is what it is like.. the more your town gets its stuff used by people the higher the value of the stocks.
Malverick
10-16-2007, 02:42 PM
In the real world a you(corporation) can have (authorize) as many shares of stock as you want, however, this may increase your filing fees in some cases.
http://www.activefilings.com/en/information/faq_shares.htm
TheGovnah
10-16-2007, 03:02 PM
One thing you need to keep in mind... The markets in mmo's aren't regulated.
Dividends - dividends are awesome. Lets say you buy shares of stock that have + dividends. When your stock goes up in value over a time period, you directly recieve free cash from your investment. The amount you recieve depends on the % offered by the investment. So, lets say your stock increases in value. You will recieve a % of the profits the company made from your investment. Furthermore; you stocks retain their worth, so anytime you wish you can sell them for the amount of money they are worth.
Dividend investments are awesome.
One thing you need to keep in mind... The markets in mmo's aren't regulated.
Dividends - dividends are awesome. Lets say you buy shares of stock that have + dividends. When your stock goes up in value over a time period, you directly recieve free cash from your investment. The amount you recieve depends on the % offered by the investment. So, lets say your stock increases in value. You will recieve a % of the profits the company made from your investment. Furthermore; you stocks retain their worth, so anytime you wish you can sell them for the amount of money they are worth.
Dividend investments are awesome.
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Malverick
10-16-2007, 03:18 PM
One thing you need to keep in mind... The markets in mmo's aren't regulated.
Dividends - dividends are awesome. Lets say you buy shares of stock that have + dividends. When your stock goes up in value over a time period, you directly recieve free cash from your investment. The amount you recieve depends on the % offered by the investment. So, lets say your stock increases in value. You will recieve a % of the profits the company made from your investment. Furthermore; you stocks retain their worth, so anytime you wish you can sell them for the amount of money they are worth.
Dividend investments are awesome.
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therandom
10-19-2007, 02:58 PM
how can a town become more powerful/attractive?
since stocks' values increase with towns' values, as far as i understand, then its logical to think: good town = good money
no?
and btw how many stocks can a single town have? is it limited? if so who regulates this?
if town have unlimited number of stocks = value of stock go down.
biff10426
10-19-2007, 04:07 PM
I suppose that if a certain town churns out certain items that everyone wants, thus a lot of people buy items that are made in that town that the stock would go up. The other way of course if no one buys anything from that town. Might also change when people buy or sell the towns stock as well.
As far as dividends are concerned, I see it as not as much money right now, but a decent amount over a period of time contrasted to just out right selling your stocks when their high valued and getting a huge chunk right then and there. That of course means you won't be a major share holder and get extra opportunities and such.
therandom
10-19-2007, 05:10 PM
k thx
hm. btw when we talk about town this and town that where do towns even come from? are there a set number of towns in a server? or are they human-generated?
also when you said, "...certain town churns out certain items..." does that mean when somebody auctions an item at a market or w/e that item can only be purchased in the specific town that it was auctioned in?
Chuck Fckin Norris
10-19-2007, 06:57 PM
stock is so confusing
are you ************************ed or just that lazy that you choose not to understand. stock is so goddamn simple a 5 year old could do it
are you ************************ed or just that lazy that you choose not to understand. stock is so goddamn simple a 5 year old could do it
it isnt so simple,just stay silent if you dont know things.
behind the stocks there is:
the town's future
and how they will give out dividends.
you think a town future is something to be taken simply?dont think so.
if town doesnt have income , other towns will see the hole in their defence,siege the town and get possession of it damagin all the building making the town "close".
Chuck Fckin Norris
10-19-2007, 08:34 PM
whats with the hate mail gaia
whats with the hate post Chuck?
therandom
10-19-2007, 08:45 PM
it isnt so simple,just stay silent if you dont know things.
behind the stocks there is:
the town's future
and how they will give out dividends.
you think a town future is something to be taken simply?dont think so.
if town doesnt have income , other towns will see the hole in their defence,siege the town and get possession of it damagin all the building making the town "close".
umm havent answered my question.
do servers have fixed number of towns or can towns be generated
fixed.the first people who subscire for the shares will get those,and some will fail getting nothing(anyways they give you ur money back)
Malverick
10-20-2007, 12:04 AM
STOP FLAMING ON MY TOPIC!!!
CHILDREN SHUT YOUR MOUTH (fingers)
Just Kidding...but seriously stop flaming.
Skillz0r
10-20-2007, 04:29 PM
Okay okay, All to gether:
How to get them?
pay 100k for 20 shares,
all remaining shares will be given to all players online at the moment of giving away stocks, and everyone gets the same amount of them.
What do they do?
Give dividents (money), the more shares, the more dividents
Let you vote, vote who is the Town chief, more shares, the more influence your vote has, so if you want to overtrow a town(residence) you will need alot of shares.
Town chief, can choose heads of buildings, for example the Hunting Ground. In the hunting ground, you can put monsters with dolls (thats what the head of the HG does), then others can kill it. So the head of the HG makes sure there are enough dolls, and what kind of dolls are there.
Why would price go up/down?
because having shares, will give dividents, so there are people that collect as much shares as possible, and thats all they need to make money.
If I have 70% of all shares, and alot of people want some, I can say: I sell only a few a time, to keep the price high and make lots of profits.
If everyone has shares, the price will be low, because everyone sells whenever he/she wants, so the price wont go up.
(the example: if everyone wants my sword, its worth alot, but if 20 people sell the sword, the price will be lower).
any other stuff I forgot>? or other questions? =D
Skillz0r
10-20-2007, 04:33 PM
umm havent answered my question.
do servers have fixed number of towns or can towns be generated
No, there is a limit of towns, and they are all there.
They will be opened 1 by 1, but they are there already. there wont come more, but there will open more(untill all are open). for more info, look on the map at luminary.ijji.com