The Game Is Called North American Gunz

[Dukejakk]

OK, I have to complain about this.... I can't enjoy Gunz, because there are too many people from other countries. I'm not being racist, but their ping is too high and I play more of them then i do people from NA. I am sincerelly upset because you dont let anyone but Koreans play K Gunz... and yet you let other countries play NA Gunz??!? I see a major problem there. Alot of my friends who played NA Gunz quit, becuase of all the people with high ping. This is an important statement because you have lost coustomers becuase of PING! YES PING! I say that you should do somthing about this, because it's not fair. If i offended anyone i am sorry but i just cant stand pingers =/.....!

PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Terranwolf]

Actually, it's called "ijji GUNZ".
People call it NA gunz because it's based in North America.

They honestly can't do much about ping anyway.
About 1/2 of them are (no offence) central / south american pings (canadian internet is doing much better), while around 2/3 of the rest is EU (european).

BTW, everyone has a ping. I'm assuming you phrase "ping" as "distance laggers" :|

English-speaking countries play ijji GUNZ for as long as their isn't a localized version for them.

[Dukejakk]

Actually, if you go to www.gunzonline.com, there you can see that it clearly says, "North American Edition" So your wrong. Also yes, Ping=distance lagger which WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF MY FREAKING THREAD! Another thing, that still does not explain why anyone else but koreans can play K Gunz and dont tell me its because if we played on it, we would lagg......COMPLETE BULL CRAP! KNOCK ON WOOD!

[Ian H.]

Actually, if you go to www.gunzonline.com, there you can see that it clearly says, "North American Edition" So your wrong. Also yes, Ping=distance lagger which WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF MY FREAKING THREAD! Another thing, that still does not explain why anyone else but koreans can play K Gunz and dont tell me its because if we played on it, we would lagg......COMPLETE BULL CRAP! KNOCK ON WOOD!

Ijji was going to IP block all other countries, but decided not to at teh last minute. They only block the countries that already have a Gunz version. Just make a room with a title (NA ONLY) and kick all the players that lag. It's just that simple. Ijji's not going to change their blocking plans because of this issue a few people are having. I've gotten used to most of it.

[ShinyTHPS]

Actually, if you go to www.gunzonline.com, there you can see that it clearly says, "North American Edition" So your wrong. Also yes, Ping=distance lagger which WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF MY FREAKING THREAD! Another thing, that still does not explain why anyone else but koreans can play K Gunz and dont tell me its because if we played on it, we would lagg......COMPLETE BULL CRAP! KNOCK ON WOOD!

Who cares ? I am from switzerland and have a good ping to america, and they have the same to me cuz it is a p2p. The most problem players are spains and brasils, but it is not their fault that they have such a high ping because their distance is so far away.


By the way. Switzerland doesn't belong to europe, so please, can you invent GunZ Swiss Edition ? Or where I need to play ? Lol :)

It's just so, I think you also played IGunZ, but as far as I know USA is not in europe, or am I wrong ?







Lithium, how do I get this graphic that shows my lvl and so ? ^^

[GTI16v]

Don't see the point in this. I know your trying to get your point across, but I am pretty sure no one is going to listen.

[GM_slider]

'hello IJJI gunz players'
www.gunzonline.com is not our site.
our site is www.ijji.com
ty

[ShinyTHPS]

'hello IJJI gunz players'
www.gunzonline.com is not our site.
our site is www.ijji.com
ty

Hi slider, how comes GM's never reply to my thread into Quest Discussion ? ^^

[Whist]

OK, I have to complain about this.... I can't enjoy Gunz, because there are too many people from other countries. I'm not being racist, but their ping is too high and I play more of them then i do people from NA. I am sincerelly upset because you dont let anyone but Koreans play K Gunz... and yet you let other countries play NA Gunz??!? I see a major problem there. Alot of my friends who played NA Gunz quit, becuase of all the people with high ping. This is an important statement because you have lost coustomers becuase of PING! YES PING! I say that you should do somthing about this, because it's not fair. If i offended anyone i am sorry but i just cant stand pingers =/.....!

PLEASE DO NOT IGNORE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They have also gained a lot more customers than they lost.

This is called NAgunz becuase the SERVERS are located in NA. ijji never said anything about it only being for north american players. Yes, north american players have less lag to the SERVER, but that's it.

Also, you need to learn the definition of racist. Dislikeing a country is not racism. Disliking a RACE is racism.

You fail to convince anybody due to lack of intellect.



'hello IJJI gunz players'
www.gunzonline.com is not our site.
our site is www.ijji.com
ty
Best post by GM by far. It lacks the professionalism the posts usually have. Thus making it funny and informative at the same time. GG slider.

[Dukejakk]

W/E none of you understand the damn point here.............................................. ...............
GM you make no sense................
Thanks..............

[ShinyTHPS]

W/E none of you understand the damn point here.............................................. ...............
GM you make no sense................
Thanks..............

Just because you are loosing ?

We know, live is not fair, so just stop whining and live with it.

And play the game -.-

[Seth Wynd]

Whaddya mean he makes no sense? I'll make it even simpler:

No matter WHAT it says on gunzonline.com, if it's not on Ijji.com? It doesn't apply. Unless Ijji says this is NA Gunz, and for North Americans only, then it's not.

[ShinyTHPS]

Whaddya mean he makes no sense? I'll make it even simpler:

No matter WHAT it says on gunzonline.com, if it's not on Ijji.com? It doesn't apply. Unless Ijji says this is NA Gunz, and for North Americans only, then it's not.

That's..... 1000000000000000000 % right

[Mizzro]

Lets not forget that GunTrix from MAIET had stated that ijji Gunz would be aka Global GunZ, And it Would Not be taking over the International GunZ Service but it would be open to all countries who do not currently have their own version.

Maybe you guys should stop being aggressive to the players. If they are from Spain/Brasil then yes They Do have their own version and in which case they should not be playing ijji Gunz because it Is against the 'rules' if not by ijji then MAIET. (I do believe that is how it goes)

Anyways I hope this clears things up a bit, Now stop being so rude and please, get your facts straight before you make a complaint.

[ShinyTHPS]

Lets not forget that GunTrix from MAIET had stated that ijji Gunz would be aka Global GunZ, And it Would Not be taking over the International GunZ Service but it would be open to all countries who do not currently have their own version.

Maybe you guys should stop being aggressive to the players. If they are from Spain/Brasil then yes They Do have their own version and in which case they should not be playing ijji Gunz because it Is against the 'rules' if not by ijji then MAIET. (I do believe that is how it goes)

Anyways I hope this clears things up a bit, Now stop being so rude and please, get your facts straight before you make a complaint.

I am not rude to them, I got spain friends who also play this, and I also got a good ping to them.
But most times it is the case that spains and braisls have the highest ping in Ijji Gunz.

[Seth Wynd]

I think he meant the OP, Shiny >.>

[Whist]

W/E none of you understand the damn point here.............................................. ...............
GM you make no sense................
Thanks..............

Umm YOU don't understand the point.

The gm made perfect sense. gunzonline.com is NOT run by ijji, thus meaning they cannot change the name to ijjigunz. That's maiet who needs to do that.

The point is, IJJI NEVER SAID THIS GAME WAS RESTRICTED TO NORTH AMERICAN PLAYERS ONLY. The onlything they said was the servers are located in north america.

Morons like you got excited and thought this ment ONLY north americans can play. But that's not what it really is.

[Cyphe]

the fact that North american players are arguing against your point, means this topic should be deemed worthless

In all respect, would you stop playing the game if you lived elsewere? i highly doubt it

[el-skeezo]

And if they did block the IP addresses of those countries, a certain percentage of them most likely know how to get around that.

[Lanthas]

'hello IJJI gunz players'
www.gunzonline.com is not our site.
our site is www.ijji.com
ty

Tell MAIET to change it on their site then! Thanks for posting that also.

I really thought that ijji GunZ was called North American GunZ to tell you the truth, but not anymore though. I used ijji GunZ to refer to this GunZ because I knew everyone played it if they didn't have their own version, which didn't make sence to the title 'North American GunZ'.

Also, I'm not against anyone who lives out of North America and never was. I finally got it out of my head that this ijji GunZ is not called NAGunZ.

[bladetsukasa]

Hes fighting uphill on this one.
And, distance ping barely adds anything, its connections. Try learning about ping before whining on the forums.

[Whist]

Hes fighting uphill on this one.
And, distance ping barely adds anything, its connections. Try learning about ping before whining on the forums.

No, distance ping adds EVERYTHING.

The lowest ping I can get is 14. I've been finding I play with a lot of people from chicago. I'm only a few miles from there. Their ping goes as low as 14. Perhaps if they lived next door it would be 10.
I don't have super fast internet. Just a 100k connection.

So with this, one can conclude that my internet is tacking on about 10 ping to all connections.
Then vs the other persons internet which tacks on another 10...that's 20 ping.

Yet people in europe have 90 ping to me.

Hrmm...90-20=70

Distance adds 70, internet connection adds 20.

[Sheer]

lol dude....i know people all over the world,i even got a friend somewhere around korea who can play with about 63ping,and some in the swedan and denmark that has about 100,sucha spazztoid,ever thought maybe its your internet vs theres?

Note:my friend around korea needed to go to his friends to play gunz

[Seth Wynd]

No, distance ping adds EVERYTHING.

The lowest ping I can get is 14. I've been finding I play with a lot of people from chicago. I'm only a few miles from there. Their ping goes as low as 14. Perhaps if they lived next door it would be 10.
I don't have super fast internet. Just a 100k connection.

So with this, one can conclude that my internet is tacking on about 10 ping to all connections.
Then vs the other persons internet which tacks on another 10...that's 20 ping.

Yet people in europe have 90 ping to me.

Hrmm...90-20=70

Distance adds 70, internet connection adds 20.

Wow, only 90 ping? Well thank you kindly then, you've just shown that this "distance lag" is not of the apocalyptic proportions all the nitwits saying we should kick everyone out keep passing it off to be. I would KILL to play with people who only had 90 ping. Things don't even start getting mildly laggy for people I play against until they hit like 165+

[_Zephyre_]

Clarification:

ijji has once and already officially declared its service for its version of GunZ open to the world except countries that have or will have a version of their own. The things about North America stated by MAIET is an error on their part, and what they probably really mean is that the service is based in North America. MAIET does not really make decisions for ijji. ijji can decide who to open their service to.

Also, GunZ runs on a player-to-player connection, so lag is mutual. If they lag to you, you lag to them. There's an equal need to lead for both sides.

[Vash]

Clarification:

ijji has once and already officially declared its service for its version of GunZ open to the world except countries that have or will have a version of their own. The things about North America stated by MAIET is an error on their part, and what they probably really mean is that the service is based in North America. MAIET does not really make decisions for ijji. ijji can decide who to open their service to.

Also, GunZ runs on a player-to-player connection, so lag is mutual. If they lag to you, you lag to them. There's an equal need to lead for both sides.

Most likely they put North America, because Internation is alleady up their and they do not want to take that down =]

[Cyphe]

No, distance ping adds EVERYTHING.

The lowest ping I can get is 14. I've been finding I play with a lot of people from chicago. I'm only a few miles from there. Their ping goes as low as 14. Perhaps if they lived next door it would be 10.
I don't have super fast internet. Just a 100k connection.

So with this, one can conclude that my internet is tacking on about 10 ping to all connections.
Then vs the other persons internet which tacks on another 10...that's 20 ping.

Yet people in europe have 90 ping to me.

Hrmm...90-20=70

Distance adds 70, internet connection adds 20.

hmm.. sort of. its to do with Peer to Peer, the speed of your connect can make a huge difference

NAT and Peer-to-peer networking
Peer-to-peer is a style of networking in which a group of computers communicate directly with each other, rather than through a central server. This is often used for multiplayer online games, such as Activision's Battlezone and gunz, to avoid the expense and delay of handling all that traffic at the server.

interesting info---------------------

However, this style of networking often has problems dealing with Network Address Translators (NATs).

A way to solve these problems. Products that use this technique now work properly through several commercial NATs.
The situation
The Internet is based on 32-bit IP (Internet Protocol) addresses, which means the theoretical maximum number of computers on the Internet is 4 billion or so. The practical limit is much lower, due to inefficiences in how IP addresses are used. In fact, the Internet may be only a few years away from running out of IP addresses.
As IP addresses become scarce, a technique known as Network Address Translation, or NAT, was developed to allow the use of a single IP address for a whole network of computers.

A NAT sits inbetween the public Internet and the network it serves, and works by rewriting IP addresses and port numbers in IP headers on the fly so the packets all appear to be coming from (or going to) the single public IP address of the NAT device instead of the actual source or destination.

NAT is now commonly employed in small home-office routers and in software used by consumers to connect several personal computers to a single cable modem. It is even used by some Internet Service providers.


Some Protocols Aren't NAT-Friendly
Some applications send IP addresses or port numbers hidden inside their datapackets, where NAT can't properly rewrite them - so those applications don't work when you try to use them on computers behind NATs.
Some NATs, for security reasons, only allow incoming traffic from an outside address if an outgoing packet has already been sent to that outside address. This means that two people behind different NATs can't open up connections to each other in the usual way - ever!

The solution
Peer-to-peer protocols that wish to be NAT-friendly must be aware that any addresses they embed in their data packets may be invalid once the packets pass through the NAT, and compensate accordingly. One way to do it is as follows:
All traffic between the peers is done via a single UDP port. There is an address server which is not behind any NAT. Users connect to the address server first, and send it the IP address they think they have; the server notes both that address and the address it sees in the UDP header. The server then sends both addresses to the other peers. At this point, everyone knows everyone else's address(es).

To open up peer-to-peer connections, all old peers send a UDP packet to the new peer, and the new peer sends a UDP packet to each of the old peers. Since nobody knows at first whether they are behind the same NAT, the first packet is always sent to both the public and the private address.

This causes everyone's NAT to open up a bidirectional hole for the UDP traffic to go through. Once the first reply comes back from each peer, the sender knows which return address to use, and can stop sending to both addresses.

[[RB]-E-Style]

Ijji was going to IP block all other countries, but decided not to at teh last minute. They only block the countries that already have a Gunz version. Just make a room with a title (NA ONLY) and kick all the players that lag. It's just that simple. Ijji's not going to change their blocking plans because of this issue a few people are having. I've gotten used to most of it.

haha, make a "NA only" game? do you think that will work? Always EU or South Asian ppl or South American ppl invade those rooms to upset NA ppl.

Just like, in "NO HACKERS Quest" or "HACKERS=KICKED" rooms, you tend to find more hackers there.

As for "EU only" room I never enter there because I don't want to have laggy games.